[Talk-ca] bicycle network in Quebec: the Route Verte
When I look at the cyclemap, I see red lines (NCN) and light blue lines (RCN) for the Route Verte. I also see red lines tagged as RCN (I suspect that the cyclemap rendering has not been updated for a while - my changes made almost 3 weeks ago are not still there). There was a discussion 2 years ago about Biking network in Canada: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg00044.html Now, I would like to document the Route Verte #5 between Quebec and 3-Rivières. Do we tag the Route Verte as NCN or RCN? For me, Route Verte is National. Regional are route within a region (like La piste Dansereau-La Liseuse between Ste-Catherine de la Jacques-Cartier and Pont-Rouge or the St-Henri / Armagh new cycleway). LCN are within a municipality. But I will go with the group (as long as we are consistent ...). Maybe the subject has already been discussed and decided. If so, is it documented somewhere? Thank you ... PS: Ça me fait drôle d'expliquer ma patente en anglais ... Daniel Mon blog: http:\\daniel.art.over-blog.com Facebook: http://fr.facebook.com/people/Daniel_Tremblay/1323011538 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] bicycle network in Quebec: the Route Verte
I have found this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Route_verte It doesn't specify the type of network to apply (NCN vs RCN). Maybe it should be added (once decided). This page also suggest that the following tags applied: *Type de voies* *Clef* *Valeur* Bande cyclable cycleway lane Accotement pavé cycleway lane Chaussée désignée bicycle designated Piste cyclable highway cycleway Sentier polyvalent highway path I also use cycleway=track when the piste cyclable is separated from the road but just beside it. I use highway=cycleway when it does not follow the road. Does that make sense? Is so, maybe the wiki page should be modified to reflect this ... Comments? Daniel Mon blog: http:\\daniel.art.over-blog.com Facebook: http://fr.facebook.com/people/Daniel_Tremblay/1323011538 2010/8/7 Daniel Tremblay tremb...@gmail.com When I look at the cyclemap, I see red lines (NCN) and light blue lines (RCN) for the Route Verte. I also see red lines tagged as RCN (I suspect that the cyclemap rendering has not been updated for a while - my changes made almost 3 weeks ago are not still there). There was a discussion 2 years ago about Biking network in Canada: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg00044.html Now, I would like to document the Route Verte #5 between Quebec and 3-Rivières. Do we tag the Route Verte as NCN or RCN? For me, Route Verte is National. Regional are route within a region (like La piste Dansereau-La Liseuse between Ste-Catherine de la Jacques-Cartier and Pont-Rouge or the St-Henri / Armagh new cycleway). LCN are within a municipality. But I will go with the group (as long as we are consistent ...). Maybe the subject has already been discussed and decided. If so, is it documented somewhere? Thank you ... PS: Ça me fait drôle d'expliquer ma patente en anglais ... Daniel Mon blog: http:\\daniel.art.over-blog.com Facebook: http://fr.facebook.com/people/Daniel_Tremblay/1323011538 ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] bicycle network in Quebec: the Route Verte
sorry, i get all excited when talking about the tct and ncn. yes, the route de verte network in quebec should be ncn, and the regional network exists where a route in continious passing through towns, usually in a 'regional municapility'. my fight continues, but as far as i know, im the only one who is proposing a national cycle network for each other province :) and btw, for the TCT, only route=recreation is appropriate as it (by definition) it has no formal end-to-end use. i hope thats more clear than the previous thread. cheers, sam On 8/7/10, Daniel Tremblay tremb...@gmail.com wrote: When I look at the cyclemap, I see red lines (NCN) and light blue lines (RCN) for the Route Verte. I also see red lines tagged as RCN (I suspect that the cyclemap rendering has not been updated for a while - my changes made almost 3 weeks ago are not still there). There was a discussion 2 years ago about Biking network in Canada: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg00044.html Now, I would like to document the Route Verte #5 between Quebec and 3-Rivières. Do we tag the Route Verte as NCN or RCN? For me, Route Verte is National. Regional are route within a region (like La piste Dansereau-La Liseuse between Ste-Catherine de la Jacques-Cartier and Pont-Rouge or the St-Henri / Armagh new cycleway). LCN are within a municipality. But I will go with the group (as long as we are consistent ...). Maybe the subject has already been discussed and decided. If so, is it documented somewhere? Thank you ... PS: Ça me fait drôle d'expliquer ma patente en anglais ... Daniel Mon blog: http:\\daniel.art.over-blog.com Facebook: http://fr.facebook.com/people/Daniel_Tremblay/1323011538 -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] bicycle network in Quebec: the Route Verte
re: tagging feel free to take a lead on it, the system looks good to me. and ya, the cyclemap usually takes a week for something to render and much longer for the ncn as its viewable from space. cheers, sam On 8/7/10, Daniel Tremblay tremb...@gmail.com wrote: I have found this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/FR:Route_verte It doesn't specify the type of network to apply (NCN vs RCN). Maybe it should be added (once decided). This page also suggest that the following tags applied: *Type de voies* *Clef* *Valeur* Bande cyclable cycleway lane Accotement pavé cycleway lane Chaussée désignée bicycle designated Piste cyclable highway cycleway Sentier polyvalent highway path I also use cycleway=track when the piste cyclable is separated from the road but just beside it. I use highway=cycleway when it does not follow the road. Does that make sense? Is so, maybe the wiki page should be modified to reflect this ... Comments? Daniel Mon blog: http:\\daniel.art.over-blog.com Facebook: http://fr.facebook.com/people/Daniel_Tremblay/1323011538 2010/8/7 Daniel Tremblay tremb...@gmail.com When I look at the cyclemap, I see red lines (NCN) and light blue lines (RCN) for the Route Verte. I also see red lines tagged as RCN (I suspect that the cyclemap rendering has not been updated for a while - my changes made almost 3 weeks ago are not still there). There was a discussion 2 years ago about Biking network in Canada: http://www.mail-archive.com/talk-ca@openstreetmap.org/msg00044.html Now, I would like to document the Route Verte #5 between Quebec and 3-Rivières. Do we tag the Route Verte as NCN or RCN? For me, Route Verte is National. Regional are route within a region (like La piste Dansereau-La Liseuse between Ste-Catherine de la Jacques-Cartier and Pont-Rouge or the St-Henri / Armagh new cycleway). LCN are within a municipality. But I will go with the group (as long as we are consistent ...). Maybe the subject has already been discussed and decided. If so, is it documented somewhere? Thank you ... PS: Ça me fait drôle d'expliquer ma patente en anglais ... Daniel Mon blog: http:\\daniel.art.over-blog.com Facebook: http://fr.facebook.com/people/Daniel_Tremblay/1323011538 -- Twitter: @Acrosscanada Blogs: http://acrosscanadatrails.posterous.com/ http://Acrosscanadatrails.blogspot.com Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/sam.vekemans Skype: samvekemans IRC: irc://irc.oftc.net #osm-ca Canadian OSM channel (an open chat room) @Acrosscanadatrails ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
