Re: [Talk-ca] canvec imports
Andrew, Keep up the great work making OSM great for Canada. On 2018-11-27 1:36 p.m., Andrew Lester wrote: I agree. A selective import from CANVEC is fine and generally gives good results. As long as you don't import things like forests and buildings (which are both woefully out-of-date, broken, or outright wrong), there usually isn't a problem. However, if someone just imports an entire block of data without inspecting it, that's when we run into the visible issues that the peanut gallery picks apart. Andrew Victoria, BC -- *From: *"James" *To: *"Andrew" *Cc: *"talk-ca" *Sent: *Tuesday, November 27, 2018 9:58:19 AM *Subject: *Re: [Talk-ca] canvec imports not sure why Canvec always gets shat uppon, their water features are great and pretty accurate, the forest/landcover on the other hand needs fixing before import. I think it's clear enough on the canvec wiki page that only experienced mappers/importers should attempt a canvec import. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] canvec imports
I agree. A selective import from CANVEC is fine and generally gives good results. As long as you don't import things like forests and buildings (which are both woefully out-of-date, broken, or outright wrong), there usually isn't a problem. However, if someone just imports an entire block of data without inspecting it, that's when we run into the visible issues that the peanut gallery picks apart. Andrew Victoria, BC From: "James" To: "Andrew" Cc: "talk-ca" Sent: Tuesday, November 27, 2018 9:58:19 AM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] canvec imports not sure why Canvec always gets shat uppon, their water features are great and pretty accurate, the forest/landcover on the other hand needs fixing before import. I think it's clear enough on the canvec wiki page that only experienced mappers/importers should attempt a canvec import. On Tue., Nov. 27, 2018, 12:54 p.m. Andrew < andrew.alli...@teksavvy.com wrote: FYI Canada I made a few imports to canada a while ago and apparently raised the ire of someone. Here we go again :-( --- This was the first message >>Please, fix issues caused by this changeset for example in region of Yup, that was it, I was like ok, whats wrong with the changeset? Found an overlapping way. Figured that was it :-) And now Where is documentation page of this import? Can you link to discussion done before this import started? And So On. --- Hi PurpleMustang, XXX X has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the subject Re: Canvec Import: XXX X On 2018-11-27 17:21:34 UTC PurpleMustang wrote: Hello: This import has been a work in progress for about 10 years now :-) https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase/Announcement Andrew Note that currently active import should have a wiki page describing what exactly is imported and how data is processed - see https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_ Oh Well Here we go again Andrew aka CanvecImports ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] canvec imports
not sure why Canvec always gets shat uppon, their water features are great and pretty accurate, the forest/landcover on the other hand needs fixing before import. I think it's clear enough on the canvec wiki page that only experienced mappers/importers should attempt a canvec import. On Tue., Nov. 27, 2018, 12:54 p.m. Andrew FYI Canada > > I made a few imports to canada a while ago and apparently > raised the ire of someone. > > Here we go again :-( > > --- > This was the first message > > >>Please, fix issues caused by this changeset for example in region of > > Yup, that was it, I was like ok, whats wrong with the changeset? Found > an overlapping way. Figured that was it :-) > > And now > > Where is documentation page of this import? Can you link to discussion > done before this import started? > > And So On. > > --- > Hi PurpleMustang, > > XXX X has sent you a message through OpenStreetMap with the > subject Re: Canvec Import: > > XXX X > On 2018-11-27 17:21:34 UTC PurpleMustang wrote: > > Hello: This import has been a work in progress for about 10 years now > :-) > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue > > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Geobase/Announcement > > Andrew > > Note that currently active import should have a wiki page describing > what exactly is imported and how data is processed - see > https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Automated_ > > > > Oh Well Here we go again > > Andrew > aka CanvecImports > > > ___ > Talk-ca mailing list > Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca > ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Imports in areas with existing data
On Sun, Nov 4, 2012 at 8:21 PM, Duncan Hill dun...@soncan.ca wrote: I've recently imported some CanVec 10 data into the North Bay, Ontario area. It's been hard to figure out the best way to do this because of the assorted versions of existing data in the area. After chatting with some folks in the #osm-ca channel, I left the existing major highways to preserve routing. Since this is the first time I've imported any CanVec data, I am wondering if this is the best way to do it when there is existing data in the area. I would really appreciate it if someone could take a look at my import in case I have broken something. Your import looks fine to me. In areas with existing data, you need to merge the existing data with the new data, by cutting and pasting new CanVec data into OSM and then merging it with old data (by joining roads that you copy from CanVec with existing roads, and cleaning up any old imported data that is inaccurate e.g. roads with the wrong name). This is time consuming but necessary. When you import street address data, please join the imported street address data with address data from adjacent CanVec tiles. This is very time consuming but needs to be done properly. Also the FixAddresses plugin in JOSM might be helpful to compare road names of imported street address data with road names in the database, although you should only use it on a small area, as it is really slow if you try to use it on a large area. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] CanVec Imports in areas with existing data
I've recently imported some CanVec 10 data into the North Bay, Ontario area. It's been hard to figure out the best way to do this because of the assorted versions of existing data in the area. After chatting with some folks in the #osm-ca channel, I left the existing major highways to preserve routing. Since this is the first time I've imported any CanVec data, I am wondering if this is the best way to do it when there is existing data in the area. I would really appreciate it if someone could take a look at my import in case I have broken something. The NTS tile that I imported was: 031L06.0.11 The changeset for my import is here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/13755583 Duncan ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again?
On Sat, Jul 21, 2012 at 1:09 AM, Paul Norman penor...@mac.com wrote: From: David E. Nelson [mailto:denelso...@yahoo.ca] Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again? Now that the redaction bot has apparently finished its sweep of Canada, is it safe for CanVec imports to be resumed? I want to try my hand at importing a few tiles around where I live. The bot is still running. It shouldn't impact mapping although uploading frequently is always a good idea. Imports are still not to be done. Are we at the point where we can continue mapping in OSM yet? There's a lot of damaged areas around here that need to be repaired, but it's a waste of time doing so if the bot is still running. -- James VE6SRV ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again?
I've looked at a couple of videos on YouTube. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uR0OrnACPHk http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OJr_gucFGMY - David E. Nelson - Original Message - From: Iain Ingram i...@monkeyface.ca To: David E. Nelson denelso...@yahoo.ca Cc: Sent: Thursday, July 26, 2012 10:00:54 PM Subject: Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again? Hello David, I was wondering if you had a quick tutorial about canvec imports? It seems that several areas in the Alberta Lake Louis area have been damaged and I thought I would start with some re-imports Thanks Iain On 2012-07-21, at 12:58 AM, David E. Nelson wrote: Now that the redaction bot has apparently finished its sweep of Canada, is it safe for CanVec imports to be resumed? I want to try my hand at importing a few tiles around where I live. - David E. Nelson ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again?
Now that the redaction bot has apparently finished its sweep of Canada, is it safe for CanVec imports to be resumed? I want to try my hand at importing a few tiles around where I live. - David E. Nelson ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again?
From: David E. Nelson [mailto:denelso...@yahoo.ca] Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec imports allowed again? Now that the redaction bot has apparently finished its sweep of Canada, is it safe for CanVec imports to be resumed? I want to try my hand at importing a few tiles around where I live. The bot is still running. It shouldn't impact mapping although uploading frequently is always a good idea. Imports are still not to be done. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
[Talk-ca] CanVec Imports
Why would someone remove a tag that says Canvec import? They had added a cycle lane but removed the Canvec Import tag at the same time. Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Imports
I've done this sort of thing when my edit changes something so significantly that it no longer resembles what was imported -- for example, rerouting a way to conform with Bing imagery or with my own local knowledge. By the time I'm done with it, it's no longer Canvec; in some cases I've actually deleted the Canvec and traced something new over Bing imagery. I've been less good at updating the source tag to reflect the source of the changes (e.g., knowledge, Bing, survey, etc.). On Thu, Dec 15, 2011 at 1:32 PM, john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com wrote: Why would someone remove a tag that says Canvec import? They had added a cycle lane but removed the Canvec Import tag at the same time. Thanks John ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca -- Jonathan Crowe http://www.jonathancrowe.net ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-ca] CanVec Imports
Maybe they altered the position of the lane slightly or merged it with another piece that didn't have come from CanVec? I know that's occasionally happened when I've been extending coverage of an area based on my GPS tracks. --G -Original Message- From: john whelan jwhelan0...@gmail.com Date: Thu, 15 Dec 2011 13:32:53 To: Talk-CA OpenStreetMaptalk-ca@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-ca] CanVec Imports ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca