Re: [Talk-ca] importing data requiring attribution

[Brent Fraser]

Alan,

  Dang!  I thought I was close.I had SCRD fix their cut-and-paste 
error and agree that an addition to the OSM' Contributors page would be 
adequate for attribution.I'll see if I can get them to add something 
similar.  Maybe I should contact the OSM Licensing Working Group first.


Thanks!

Best Regards,
Brent Fraser

On 3/7/2017 12:14 PM, Alan Richards wrote:
From what I've seen so far, the opinion seems to be that the OGL-BC 
devived licenses like this one require a statement about the Freedom 
of Information and Protection of Privacy Act. This was done for the 
City of Vancouver license, and I've just recently recieved an update 
from the City of New Westminster along the same lines. They were very 
happy to adjust it after I contacted them though.


"Data available in the blah blah blah datasets location of the City of 
New Westminster's Open Data site under the following location: 
http://opendata.newwestcity.ca/datasets 
 is released in accordance 
with the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act of 
British Columbia."





On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Stewart C. Russell > wrote:


On 2017-03-05 09:44 PM, Brent Fraser wrote:
> Hi all,
>
>   I've had a request to improve the stream and trail data around
Gibsons
> BC using data from the Sunshine Coast Regional District (SCRD
> http://www.scrd.ca/data-download
). Their license
> (http://www.scrd.ca/scrd_disclaimer
) permits this

In addition to James's link, you'd need to have the SCRD licence
approved by the Licensing Working Group. Takes a couple of months.
I see
a glaring error in the text: they copypasta'd North Van's licence, but
didn't find and replace properly, leaving the attribution as “Contains
information licensed under the Open Government Licence - North
Vancouver.”

 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] importing data requiring attribution

[Alan Richards]

For reference, here's the full email and response I got, in case it helps
others with similar requests:

Hi,
> I tried sending this through the feedback form on the Open Data site, but
> it was too long for the form and my shorter inquiry was never responded to.
> Given the upcoming HackOurCity and InnovationWeek, I'm hoping that this can
> be passed along to the appropriate people.
> Dear New West Open Data,
> Thank you for making open data available to the public.
> I am a resident of New Westminster, but also a contributor to the
> OpenStreetMap project [1], a collaborative open project to create a global
> geodata set freely usable by anyone [2].
> We respect the IP rights of others and I write to ask if we can use your
> data. OpenStreetMap (OSM) uses the ODbL license [3]. The OGL-City of New
> Westminster is based upon the OGL-BC, which in turn is based upon the
> OGL-CA. As I understand, the OGL-CA has been deemed compatible with the
> ODbL, but the OGL-BC has slightly modified wording introducing an exemption
> for the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act (B.C.). Given
> the goals of most municipal Open Data projects, I imagine you would happy
> for the data to be used by OSM, but we would ask for a statement clearing
> the use.
> At the most simple, I would seek a statement like this:
> "Data available in the Orthophotography, Landuse, Address, Building
> Footprints, and Park Benches datasets location of the City of New
> Westminster's Open Data site under the following location:
> http://opendata.newwestcity.ca/datasets is released in accordance with
> the Freedom of Information and Protection of Privacy Act of British
> Columbia."
> Such a statement was provided by the City of Vancouver for their own
> datasets for inclusion in OSM.
> An alternative statement that would work in a more general sense is the
> following:
> "The City of New Westminster has no objections to geodata derived in part
> from the Orthophotography, Landuse, Address, Building Footprints, and Park
> Benches datasets being incorporated into the OpenStreetMap project geodata
> database and released under a free and open license".
> Alternatively, releasing the datasets under a Public Domain, CC0, PDDL, or
> ODbL license would satisfy our license requirements.
> I also ask that whatever statement you are prepared to make can be made
> public for information purposes.
> Below is a fact sheet. If you would like any more information, I will do
> my best to help or can ask our project's License Working Group to get in
> touch with you. I've also included a couple links to discussion on license
> compatibility in Nanaimo and Vancouver.
> Regards, Alan Richards (alarobric)
> Fact Sheet
> [1] The OpenStreetMap project currently has over 750,000 registered
> contributors worldwide. Our main website is http://www.openstreetmap.org
> [2] We are mandated to make our geodata available in perpetuity under a
> free and open licence. We are not allowed to use a commercial license, but
> commercial organisations are allowed to use our data under similar terms.
> [3] Our data is currently published under the Open Database License 1.0,
> http://www.opendatacommons.org/licenses/odbl/
> [4] Most of our geodata is contributed by individuals. However, we are
> very grateful when able to incorporate or derive from other geo-data datasets
> where license terms are compatible.
> [5] We formally attribute all such sources at http://wiki.openstreetmap.
> org/wiki/Attribution, using any specific wording if you request. We also
> try to provide a link to this page with any extract of data from our
> database. However, for reasons of practicality, we do not require end-users
> to repeat such attribution since it runs into hundreds.
> [6] We also keep a public track of third party data use at
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Catalogue and usually have a
> project page for each dataset, describing how we use it and whether there
> are any license restrictions to be aware of.
> [7] If you have any specific legal questions, the OpenStreetMap
> Foundation's License Working Group can be reached at
> le...@osmfoundation.org and will be glad to help.
> [8] Nanaimo licensing discussion: https://lists.
> openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ca/2013-December/005974.html
> [9] Vancouver discussion: https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/
> talk-ca/2014-February/006037.html




 Dear Mr. Richards,
> Thank you for your very clear email.  We really want to facilitate your
> and other open data users work.  We have therefore added a statement
> above our license that all data sets in the City’s open data collection
> are released in accordance with the Freedom of Information and Protection
> of Privacy Act of BC.  A link to the page is below.
> http://opendata.newwestcity.ca/licence
>
> Please let me know if you have further concerns or requests for data sets.
>
> Yours,
>
> *Jacque Killawee*  |  Records and Information Administrator
> *T* 

Re: [Talk-ca] importing data requiring attribution

[Alan Richards]

>From what I've seen so far, the opinion seems to be that the OGL-BC devived
licenses like this one require a statement about the Freedom of Information
and Protection of Privacy Act. This was done for the City of Vancouver
license, and I've just recently recieved an update from the City of New
Westminster along the same lines. They were very happy to adjust it after I
contacted them though.

"Data available in the blah blah blah datasets location of the City of New
Westminster's Open Data site under the following location: http://opendata.
newwestcity.ca/datasets is released in accordance with the Freedom of
Information and Protection of Privacy Act of British Columbia."




On Sun, Mar 5, 2017 at 8:16 PM, Stewart C. Russell  wrote:

> On 2017-03-05 09:44 PM, Brent Fraser wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> >   I've had a request to improve the stream and trail data around Gibsons
> > BC using data from the Sunshine Coast Regional District (SCRD
> > http://www.scrd.ca/data-download).  Their license
> > (http://www.scrd.ca/scrd_disclaimer) permits this
>
> In addition to James's link, you'd need to have the SCRD licence
> approved by the Licensing Working Group. Takes a couple of months. I see
> a glaring error in the text: they copypasta'd North Van's licence, but
> didn't find and replace properly, leaving the attribution as “Contains
> information licensed under the Open Government Licence - North Vancouver.”
>
>  Stewart
>
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Re: [Talk-ca] importing data requiring attribution

[Stewart C. Russell]

On 2017-03-05 09:44 PM, Brent Fraser wrote:
> Hi all,
> 
>   I've had a request to improve the stream and trail data around Gibsons
> BC using data from the Sunshine Coast Regional District (SCRD
> http://www.scrd.ca/data-download).  Their license
> (http://www.scrd.ca/scrd_disclaimer) permits this

In addition to James's link, you'd need to have the SCRD licence
approved by the Licensing Working Group. Takes a couple of months. I see
a glaring error in the text: they copypasta'd North Van's licence, but
didn't find and replace properly, leaving the attribution as “Contains
information licensed under the Open Government Licence - North Vancouver.”

 Stewart

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Re: [Talk-ca] importing data requiring attribution

[James]

If you dont want your work reverted, you might want to check this out

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

Attribution is indirect on the wiki(you may need to contact the data
supplier if this fufills their attribution clause:
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors

You can also put it in changeset comment(link to datasource or
documentation on wiki)

On Mar 5, 2017 9:45 PM, "Brent Fraser"  wrote:

> Hi all,
>
>   I've had a request to improve the stream and trail data around Gibsons
> BC using data from the Sunshine Coast Regional District (SCRD
> http://www.scrd.ca/data-download).  Their license (
> http://www.scrd.ca/scrd_disclaimer) permits this but requires attribution
> of the data.  How is attribution of uploaded data done within OSM?
>
> --
> Best Regards,
> Brent Fraser
>
>
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