Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-05-08 Diskussionsfäden Frédéric Rodrigo

Le 27/04/2015 10:17, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit :

2015-04-26 12:40 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:


The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being
authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix
things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives.




+1, I suggest to remove the test for roundabouts with missing
junction=roundabout tags, because you can hardly tell from remote whether a
circular road is a roundabout or not (roundabouts have to be signposted to
be such), or at least make the wording weaker, because I fear the
introduction of new errors by overeager correctors.


There is just a few of this issues.
I agree with you, this can't easily be checked from remote. But it's 
also the case of many of issues reported. You event have a filter on 
Osmose QA where you can set fix:survey (but the item we are talking 
about is not in this category, maybe it's wrong).


Regards.


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Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-05-03 Diskussionsfäden Frédéric Rodrigo

Hi,

We replace error with issue on displayed string in website and on 
wiki where we talking about possible error.

You may help by update the translation in your own language.

Issues and website translation :
https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/osmose/

Wiki :
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Osmose

Regards,
Frédéric.


Le 26/04/2015 12:40, Simon Poole a écrit :



Am 26.04.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Frédéric Rodrigo:

Hi,

We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA.

Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors
based on more than 200 rulesets.



The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being
authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix
things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives.

This is mainly a language issue in that you keep on using error all
over the place instead of potential issue or whatever that is not such
an absolute.

Simon



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Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Martin Koppenhoefer
2015-04-26 12:40 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch:

 The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being
 authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix
 things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives.



+1, I suggest to remove the test for roundabouts with missing
junction=roundabout tags, because you can hardly tell from remote whether a
circular road is a roundabout or not (roundabouts have to be signposted to
be such), or at least make the wording weaker, because I fear the
introduction of new errors by overeager correctors.

Cheers,
Martin
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Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Manuel Reimer
Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodrigo at gmail.com writes:
 We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA.

Thank you for this. Osmose made me find a few errors in my area, I wouldn't
have found without this nice tool. Great job!

Manuel
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Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-04-27 Diskussionsfäden Volker Schmidt
The tool is powerful and useful (and it detected correctly some of my
errors).
Thank you!

The critical remarks made by Simon and Martin are basically requests for
better wording or category, i.e. warning/potential error instead of
error. Any such instrument has this potential side effect and can be
improved with time.

Volker

(Padova, Italy)
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Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-04-26 Diskussionsfäden Simon Poole


Am 26.04.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Frédéric Rodrigo:
 Hi,
 
 We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA.
 
 Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors
 based on more than 200 rulesets.


The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being
authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix
things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives.

This is mainly a language issue in that you keep on using error all
over the place instead of potential issue or whatever that is not such
an absolute.

Simon



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[Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-04-26 Diskussionsfäden Frédéric Rodrigo

Hi,

We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA.

Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors 
based on more than 200 rulesets.


http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmose

Germany coverage was done by split the country in two parts. One is 
checked by the Osmose Czech server and the other by the USA server 
sponsored by Mapbox. If some one is interested in running a specific 
server for Germany it will be much appreciated and save the other 
servers to support other areas.


Fell free to report over checked errors or check rules no adapted to 
your country. We also take ideas (and code) for new rules.


The Osmose QA team.

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Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)

2015-04-26 Diskussionsfäden Frédéric Rodrigo

Le 26/04/2015 12:40, Simon Poole a écrit :

Am 26.04.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Frédéric Rodrigo:

Hi,

We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA.

Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors
based on more than 200 rulesets.



The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being
authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix
things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives.

This is mainly a language issue in that you keep on using error all
over the place instead of potential issue or whatever that is not such
an absolute.


It's the first time I hear this argument. But we can evol on this, it's 
not a problem for me.


Nevertheless we try to only show issues when there is no problem with 
the definition of what it may be. We already remove rules cause of this, 
or disable some specifically for country of different local mapping usage.


Regards.


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