Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)
Le 27/04/2015 10:17, Martin Koppenhoefer a écrit : 2015-04-26 12:40 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives. +1, I suggest to remove the test for roundabouts with missing junction=roundabout tags, because you can hardly tell from remote whether a circular road is a roundabout or not (roundabouts have to be signposted to be such), or at least make the wording weaker, because I fear the introduction of new errors by overeager correctors. There is just a few of this issues. I agree with you, this can't easily be checked from remote. But it's also the case of many of issues reported. You event have a filter on Osmose QA where you can set fix:survey (but the item we are talking about is not in this category, maybe it's wrong). Regards. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)
Hi, We replace error with issue on displayed string in website and on wiki where we talking about possible error. You may help by update the translation in your own language. Issues and website translation : https://www.transifex.com/projects/p/osmose/ Wiki : http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/DE:Osmose Regards, Frédéric. Le 26/04/2015 12:40, Simon Poole a écrit : Am 26.04.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Frédéric Rodrigo: Hi, We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA. Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors based on more than 200 rulesets. The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives. This is mainly a language issue in that you keep on using error all over the place instead of potential issue or whatever that is not such an absolute. Simon ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)
2015-04-26 12:40 GMT+02:00 Simon Poole si...@poole.ch: The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives. +1, I suggest to remove the test for roundabouts with missing junction=roundabout tags, because you can hardly tell from remote whether a circular road is a roundabout or not (roundabouts have to be signposted to be such), or at least make the wording weaker, because I fear the introduction of new errors by overeager correctors. Cheers, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)
Frédéric Rodrigo fred.rodrigo at gmail.com writes: We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA. Thank you for this. Osmose made me find a few errors in my area, I wouldn't have found without this nice tool. Great job! Manuel ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)
The tool is powerful and useful (and it detected correctly some of my errors). Thank you! The critical remarks made by Simon and Martin are basically requests for better wording or category, i.e. warning/potential error instead of error. Any such instrument has this potential side effect and can be improved with time. Volker (Padova, Italy) ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)
Am 26.04.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Frédéric Rodrigo: Hi, We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA. Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors based on more than 200 rulesets. The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives. This is mainly a language issue in that you keep on using error all over the place instead of potential issue or whatever that is not such an absolute. Simon signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)
Hi, We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA. Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors based on more than 200 rulesets. http://osmose.openstreetmap.fr http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Osmose Germany coverage was done by split the country in two parts. One is checked by the Osmose Czech server and the other by the USA server sponsored by Mapbox. If some one is interested in running a specific server for Germany it will be much appreciated and save the other servers to support other areas. Fell free to report over checked errors or check rules no adapted to your country. We also take ideas (and code) for new rules. The Osmose QA team. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Osmose QA available on Germany (english)
Le 26/04/2015 12:40, Simon Poole a écrit : Am 26.04.2015 um 11:50 schrieb Frédéric Rodrigo: Hi, We have finish the coverage of Germany by Osmose QA. Osmose QA is a Quality Assurance tool. It detects and reports errors based on more than 200 rulesets. The major issue with osmose is that it invokes the notion of being authoritative when it is not, and by that motivates mappers to fix things (well actually break them) which are simply false positives. This is mainly a language issue in that you keep on using error all over the place instead of potential issue or whatever that is not such an absolute. It's the first time I hear this argument. But we can evol on this, it's not a problem for me. Nevertheless we try to only show issues when there is no problem with the definition of what it may be. We already remove rules cause of this, or disable some specifically for country of different local mapping usage. Regards. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de