Re: [Talk-GB] Business cards [was: Sustrans]

2008-06-24 Thread David Earl
There's been a discussion about business cards on talk-gb.

I will volunteer to compile a mail merge of people's details who want 
cards and get sets of personalized business cards professionally printed 
and cut.

Just to get an indication of how many people might be interested, if you 
think you'd like to do this, please send an email (any content will do) 
to [EMAIL PROTECTED] (I won't read them, just 
count them!)

It's a bit tight, but I might even be able to get a batch done before SOTM.

A back-of-the-envelope calculation suggests that if 25 people want them, 
I can get 96 cards each for about 2 pounds (3.50 Euro, 4 USD) per person 
plus postage and Paypal fee (I'll offer a bank account for transfer for 
those in the UK). These would be on 350gsm silk board.

Personalised data could include:
   Your name
   Your email or your OSM home page or both
   Your home lat/lon
   Title ("surveyor", "programmer", ...)
   Strapline and very brief description in a choice of languages - I'll 
let people add their own to a list so I don't have to translate them all.

as well as the common details: logo and website

Given font completeness issues, I think I'd better restrict it to Latin 
characters for now, sorry. I'll define the character set more tightly 
when I look at it further.

I'll put up a web form to order these in a day or two.

If there's any surplus, I'll donate it back to OSM

David

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[Talk-GB] Herne Hill Mapping Party

2008-06-24 Thread Shaun McDonald
Hi Mappers,

The Next Mapping Party as part of the London Mapping Marathon is 
tomorrow in Herne Hill.

The cake is now available at:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/London/Summer_2008_Mapping_Party_Marathon/2008-06-25

Shaun

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Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Russ Phillips
Quoting "Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> A simple card with the web address and the OSM logo would be perfect, I'm
> always needing the same but haven't got around to doing any. I'd add my name
> and an email address too so that the person can make contact again.
>
> Has anyone posted any similar proofs to the wiki/svn? if not would be good
> if someone can do one.

I knocked something up this afternoon. It's not great, but I haven't  
found anything else, and hopefully it's better than nothing:

http://www.phillipsuk.org/tmp/OSM-business-cards.pdf
http://www.phillipsuk.org/tmp/OSM-business-cards.odt

There are two pages, with slightly different wording, because I  
couldn't decide which one I preferred ;-)

Russ



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Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Russ Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>Sent: 24 June 2008 2:22 PM
>To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Sustrans
>
>Quoting "Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>
>> Please don't be put of by any apparent negativity in this respect. We can
>> collectively make a difference if we all keep nipping at Sustrans heals,
>and
>> I'm sure that a few Rangers and Sustrans staff would become OSMers if we
>can
>> get a good interchange of ideas going. So please do keep up the good
>> communications whenever you come across any of them.
>
>Oh, absolutely, and to be honest, I'd try to do the same with any
>organisation that looked like it might benefit from OSM. Talking to
>people *might* wield results - ignoring them never will.
>
>One thing I did decide after meeting the Sustrans guy was that I want
>some OSM business cards. Nothing fancy, but it would have been nice,
>when he asked if we had a web site, to have been able to just hand him
>a card. If nothing else, he might not have remembered the URL by the
>time he got home.

A simple card with the web address and the OSM logo would be perfect, I'm
always needing the same but haven't got around to doing any. I'd add my name
and an email address too so that the person can make contact again.

Has anyone posted any similar proofs to the wiki/svn? if not would be good
if someone can do one.

Cheers

Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Russ Phillips
Quoting "Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:

> Please don't be put of by any apparent negativity in this respect. We can
> collectively make a difference if we all keep nipping at Sustrans heals, and
> I'm sure that a few Rangers and Sustrans staff would become OSMers if we can
> get a good interchange of ideas going. So please do keep up the good
> communications whenever you come across any of them.

Oh, absolutely, and to be honest, I'd try to do the same with any  
organisation that looked like it might benefit from OSM. Talking to  
people *might* wield results - ignoring them never will.

One thing I did decide after meeting the Sustrans guy was that I want  
some OSM business cards. Nothing fancy, but it would have been nice,  
when he asked if we had a web site, to have been able to just hand him  
a card. If nothing else, he might not have remembered the URL by the  
time he got home.

Russ



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Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Russ Phillips [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote
>Sent: 24 June 2008 1:57 PM
>To: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
>Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] Sustrans
>
>Quoting "Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
>> So, my belief is that in realty recruiting sustrans people to our cause
>is
>> unlikely to be very fruitful. Look instead for people with time on their
>> hands, those still in education, bored professionals like me ;-) and the
>> retired.
>
>Ah well, fair enough. They seemed to be ideal candidates for mapping
>parties if nothing else, but I'll bow to your superior knowledge ;-)
>

Please don't be put of by any apparent negativity in this respect. We can
collectively make a difference if we all keep nipping at Sustrans heals, and
I'm sure that a few Rangers and Sustrans staff would become OSMers if we can
get a good interchange of ideas going. So please do keep up the good
communications whenever you come across any of them.

Cheers

Andy



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Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans

2008-06-24 Thread Russ Phillips
Quoting "Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>:
> So, my belief is that in realty recruiting sustrans people to our cause is
> unlikely to be very fruitful. Look instead for people with time on their
> hands, those still in education, bored professionals like me ;-) and the
> retired.

Ah well, fair enough. They seemed to be ideal candidates for mapping  
parties if nothing else, but I'll bow to your superior knowledge ;-)

At least I know now that we haven't been ignoring a large potential  
source of recruitment.

Russ



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[Talk-GB] reminder - Birmingham social and micro map this evening, Tue 24th June

2008-06-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Just a reminder that we have a social evening in the centre of Birmingham
tonight for all those interested in meeting up. A little mapping in the
locality beforehand is also on offer for those interested.

More on the wiki at:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/OSM_Midlands%2C_UK_User_Group 

Cheers

Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker

2008-06-24 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Sjors Provoost wrote:
>Sent: 24 June 2008 8:32 AM
>To: Openstreetmap Dev list
>Subject: Re: [OSM-dev] Google Map Maker
>
>> On 23 Jun 2008, at 23:33, SteveC wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=307
>>>
>>>
>>> Google Want to be TeleAtlas
>>> Google have launched MapMaker, a kind of faux OpenStreetMap where they
>>> own all the data and you're only allowed to map in certain Freedom Of
>>> Speech Zones.
>
>I'm a little more positive for the moment, see my blog post:
>
>http://sprovoost.nl/2008/06/24/google-map-maker-and-openstreetmap-my-five-
>cents/
>
>In short, if Google and the OSM community are open for it, there is
>huge potential for collaboration. Google can provide the OpenStreetMap
>community with the massive scalable infrastructure they need and
>OpenStreetMap can provide Google with a community, map making
>experience and great tools.

The problem is that Google haven't come and spoken to OSMF at all. There has
been complete silence on this. I only see the shark swimming in circles
here, it wants the meat and it's going to use all its power to get it. If it
had any interest in collaborating with OSM and its community there would
have been a dialogue. There has been none.

I don't see anything positive in this announcement for OpenStreetMap, on the
contrary I think our efforts are being shafted.

Cheers

Andy



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