Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping the unloved and unwashed
On Tue, 16 Dec 2008, Peter Miller wrote: google are saying is that if one places a layer of OS data on top of google data then google don't claim ownership of that data Is this actually different to the OS's rules? My take on the OS's complaint was that the councils' data was actually derived from the OS data, not just overlaid. i.e. if they want to plot the location of a public toilet, they would know that the toilet is on the corner of roads A and B, so would use the OS layer to find roads A and B and place their marker on the corner. Thus the toilets marker is derived from the OS data because they used the OS's data about the roads to geolocate it. I had assumed that if the council actually had lat/lon coordinates for the toilets then there would be no licensing problem since they would never need to use the OS data to geolocate the marker (even though they may be displaying the marker on an OS map for the end-user). Or have I misinterpretted the OS's complaint? - Steve xmpp:st...@nexusuk.org sip:st...@nexusuk.org http://www.nexusuk.org/ Servatis a periculum, servatis a maleficum - Whisper, Evanescence ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Mapping the unloved and unwashed
On 16 Dec 2008, at 10:08, Steve Hill wrote: Peter Miller wrote: We all know about the OS licencing issues and so do councils! There is a real bun-fight between the OS Google and councils over licencing. http://www.guardian.co.uk/technology/2008/nov/20/ordnance-survey-google-maps Ok, that's pretty interesting - it is good to see that the councils are starting to realise how the licences can come back and bite them. The article mentioned that Google has changed their mapping licence to make clear that it isn't claiming ownership of the data - does this mean that their licence would now allow us to trace their satellite photos? Most certainly not. The reason we can't trace from Google's aerial photograph is because I understand that deriving mapping from it is specifically excluded. Ed Parsons confirmed that at the SOTM conference this year. All google are saying is that if one places a layer of OS data on top of google data then google don't claim ownership of that data, but I think they do retain the right to crawl it. the OS don't like that! Here are some more reasons why Local Authorities might be interested in OSM. More of the same really ... http://www.freeourdata.org.uk/blog/?p=256 http://www.edparsons.com/2008/09/ordnance-survey-and-the-google-maps-api/ Regards, Peter Regards, Peter ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
