Re: [Talk-GB] Adding blocks of payphones

2009-03-09 Thread Dair Grant
Mike wrote:

> What's the best way to add blocks of payphones to the map?  I assume adding
> each one would be crazy.  I've looked at the tagging and there doesn't appear
> to be a way to tag blocks of phones.  How do people deal with this?

I tag them individually, as presumably you'll want to record the number for
each phone on the appropriate node?


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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread David Earl
It's been a while since I looked at the South Cambridgeshire wiki 
details, as I've been working elsewhere, so it seems I missed the 
milestone that S Cambs was completed (to roads/names/POI) level in 
November 2008. S Cambs completely surrounds Cambridge and runs almost 
over to the A1 in the west, and it was that western edge that was sparse 
until quite recently.

With the work on East Cambs (Ely, Littleport & Soham = 30,000), Hunts 
(Huntingdon & satellites = 40,000), NW Essex and W Suffolk (Newmarket, 
Saffron Walden and Royston = 50,000), there's now an area of maybe 3,000 
sq km and 350,000 people contiguously complete around Cambridge.

St Ives (15,000) and St Neots (40,000 inc Eynesbury and Eaton Socon) on 
the edge of this area appear to be progressing and Bury St Edmunds 
(40,000) to the east is almost done (though some villages in between 
mean it won't be connected to the rest just yet).

David

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Re: [Talk-GB] Adding blocks of payphones

2009-03-09 Thread LeedsTracker
2009/3/9 Mike :
> What's the best way to add blocks of payphones to the map?  I assume
> adding each one would be crazy.  I've looked at the tagging and there
> doesn't appear to be a way to tag blocks of phones.  How do people deal
> with this?

I tend to add each one (e.g. a row of 4 in a train station). Mapnik
only renders one at most (if not all) zoom levels, but it might be
useful for someone, sometime, to know exactly how many phones are
there.

A similar discussion came up re postboxes:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Tag:amenity%3Dpost_box#Several_boxes_at_the_same_place

regards,
LT

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Re: [Talk-GB] Markers on OSM with text

2009-03-09 Thread Peter Childs
2009/3/9 Mike :
> Folks,
>
> I'm trying to use a slippy OSM map on a webpage with various markers.  I
> want each marker numbering from one to whatever.  I have read the guide
> here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Openlayers_POI_layer_example
> which explains how to add a text box from a txt file.  I'd rather not
> use a txt file as the data is generated by a dynamic web page.  I guess
> I could pregenerate marker icons with the number on them but then I
> might run out as I have no idea how many I need.
>
> Does anyone know if you can add text to a mark by passing it to a
> function or of any other way to achive it?
>
> Mike.
>

What are you writing the dynamic web page in? It might be an idea to
use numbered icons produced on the fly using some say php.
http://www.php.net/manual/en/intro.image.php Might be a bit slow
(could have some kind of cache for numbers under say 20) You might be
able to find some pre-written script if you hunt around a bit.

Peter.

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[Talk-GB] Adding blocks of payphones

2009-03-09 Thread Mike
Folks,

What's the best way to add blocks of payphones to the map?  I assume
adding each one would be crazy.  I've looked at the tagging and there
doesn't appear to be a way to tag blocks of phones.  How do people deal
with this?

Mike.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Ed Loach
> We have been adding appropriate county pages to the 'County in
> England' category.

I realise this is still an ongoing project, but Monmouthshire is in
the English counties list but will need to be on the Welsh list when
there is one.

I think the UK page looks much improved for being shorter,
incidentally.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Peter Miller

On 9 Mar 2009, at 15:36, Ed Loach wrote:

>> There is plenty left to do, but I hope people are happy with
>> what we
>> have being doing so far.
>
> Would it make more sense for
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/England
> to redirect to WikiProject_England now instead of
> WikiProject_United_Kingdom?
>
> If so then it can be easily updated at this link:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=England&action=edit

Done. thanks


Peter

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[Talk-GB] Markers on OSM with text

2009-03-09 Thread Mike
Folks,

I'm trying to use a slippy OSM map on a webpage with various markers.  I
want each marker numbering from one to whatever.  I have read the guide
here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Openlayers_POI_layer_example
which explains how to add a text box from a txt file.  I'd rather not
use a txt file as the data is generated by a dynamic web page.  I guess
I could pregenerate marker icons with the number on them but then I
might run out as I have no idea how many I need.

Does anyone know if you can add text to a mark by passing it to a
function or of any other way to achive it?

Mike.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Ed Loach
> There is plenty left to do, but I hope people are happy with
> what we
> have being doing so far.

Would it make more sense for
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/England
to redirect to WikiProject_England now instead of
WikiProject_United_Kingdom?

If so then it can be easily updated at this link:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php?title=England&action=edit

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Peter Miller

On 9 Mar 2009, at 13:06, Ed Loach wrote:
>

A general update...


We have sorted the UK page into a pages for the relevant parts of the  
UK (England, Wales, Scotland and NI) and also a list of UK wide  
projects and have moved the England specific content from the UK page  
to a new England page.

We have created a category 'UK Projects' for UK wide projects. Do add  
to this here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Category:UK_Project

We have been adding appropriate county pages to the 'County in  
England' category.

We have also be rationalising the categories into which the county  
categories go. A county category (Suffolk) should be in its own County  
Category,  in the appropriate regional category and in the England  
Category if that makes sense!

We have added the regional categories (East of England)  into a  
'Regions in the UK' category.

We have removed counties from other categories when we find them.

There is plenty left to do, but I hope people are happy with what we  
have being doing so far.


Regards,


Peter



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[Talk-GB] Motorcycle parking

2009-03-09 Thread LeedsTracker
Hello all,

Is there a tag (or combination) for motorcycle parking? Something like this:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Image:Motorcycle-parking.jpg

We have amenity=bicycle_parking and of course amenity=parking but not
sure how to tag these.

For now I have gone for amenity=parking, motorcar=no, motorcycle=designated

Mapnik renders this as a normal 'P' for parking.

Do we need amenity=motorcycle_parking ? I see there are 7 in the UK's
tagwatch pages:
http://tagwatch.stoecker.eu/Great_britain/En/ignored_amenity.html

cheers,
LT

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Peter Miller

On 9 Mar 2009, at 13:06, Ed Loach wrote:
> r. I think
> therefore that the towns listed on each district page are probably
> more correct than those in the template (though some places are
> perhaps open to debate). Since then I've tended to concentrate on
> the district page where I live.
>
> The Essex page was originally based on the Suffolk page, so should
> be fairly easy for you to update if need be.
>

Agreed. I have now moved all the towns from the Suffolk page to the  
relevant District page.

For our 'first pass' we will concentrate on the county level and leave  
others to do the district level as they see fit.


Regards,


Peter


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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Ed Loach
David replied to Peter:

> Quite a lot of the Cambs/West Suffolk stuff is organised by
> District at
> the moment (though I perhaps mistakenly conflated Cambridge and
> South
> Cambridgeshire, and e.g. the East Cambs page is actually named
> Ely).
> 
> District is a bit more manageable a unit than County I think.
> 
> I like the idea of a coherent organisation by County, but an
> extra level
> may well help IMO, for very active areas like the east of
> England.

I've also listed the separate districts on the Essex page (including
Unitary Authorities that are part of the ceremonial county of
Essex).
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Essex
Some time ago, when I was playing, I added the "Towns in Essex"
section to that page based on a Wikipedia template (my version of
which is at {{User:EdLoach/Essex}}). This lists the Unitary
Authorities and Districts at the top and towns underneath. On each
district page I then list the towns in that district AND any
villages with their own page (which I felt may become too numerous
to be on the county page). If anyone checks in any detail, the towns
on that template section probably don't match those listed in each
district as I've done quite a lot of research since making the
template to work out which areas are towns, which are postal towns
but now suburbs of larger areas, and which aren't either. I think
therefore that the towns listed on each district page are probably
more correct than those in the template (though some places are
perhaps open to debate). Since then I've tended to concentrate on
the district page where I live.

The Essex page was originally based on the Suffolk page, so should
be fairly easy for you to update if need be.

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[Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Harry Wood
>>/ We are planning to give the UK administrative wiki pages a bit of  
/>>/ a  spring clean which are all a bit random, not very well linked  
/>>/ and  contain quite a lot of duplicated content and some very out-of- 
/>>/ date  content.
/


Sounds good.

I keep meaning to expand on some wiki guidelines. I wrote this a while 
ago...
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Creating_city_pages#Introduction
...which talks about keeping things up-to-date, but it's a bit vague.

There's enough activity across the UK to justify having a wiki page per 
county, and that should help make things more consistent and easier to 
navigate.

Harry Wood


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[Talk-GB] REMINDER: South Hants Mapping Party this weekend

2009-03-09 Thread Nick Whitelegg
Hello everyone,

A reminder that the South Hampshire mapping party is happening this 
weekend (14th/15th), details at

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/South_Hampshire_Mapping_Party_09

South Hampshire is currently one of the best-mapped areas outside London 
in the UK, and in particular has very good footpath coverage. However 
there is one big problem. Many of the streets in Portsmouth and Fareham 
have been traced from Yahoo!, and are therefore nameless. So do come along 
and help collect the street names in Portsmouth and Fareham (also Havant 
if we have time) and help complete the map of the Solent area. Once this 
is done we will have good map coverage of the entire south Hampshire area.

Meeting point the Isambard Kingdom Brunel, central Portsmouth, details on 
the wiki page.

Nick

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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Peter Miller

On 9 Mar 2009, at 12:12, David Earl wrote:

> On 09/03/2009 12:04, Peter Miller wrote:
>> We are planning to give the UK administrative wiki pages a bit of  
>> a  spring clean which are all a bit random, not very well linked  
>> and  contain quite a lot of duplicated content and some very out-of- 
>> date  content.
>
> Quite a lot of the Cambs/West Suffolk stuff is organised by District  
> at the moment (though I perhaps mistakenly conflated Cambridge and  
> South Cambridgeshire, and e.g. the East Cambs page is actually named  
> Ely).
>
> District is a bit more manageable a unit than County I think.
>
> I like the idea of a coherent organisation by County, but an extra  
> level may well help IMO, for very active areas like the east of  
> England.

I fully agree that most of the detail will be at the district level  
and I did do a bunch of work sorting Cambs into a hierarchy like that  
some time ago. I think the district structure for Cambs should be good  
now.

All we are proposing at present is to sort out the UK page, create  
both England and Wales pages and then complete the English and  Welsh  
county pages - any more than that would be taking too long.

It does make sense to then build on this with districts/boroughs for  
the detail however we will be leaving that to the locals to sort out!


Regards,


Peter



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Re: [Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread David Earl
On 09/03/2009 12:04, Peter Miller wrote:
> We are planning to give the UK administrative wiki pages a bit of a  
> spring clean which are all a bit random, not very well linked and  
> contain quite a lot of duplicated content and some very out-of-date  
> content.

Quite a lot of the Cambs/West Suffolk stuff is organised by District at 
the moment (though I perhaps mistakenly conflated Cambridge and South 
Cambridgeshire, and e.g. the East Cambs page is actually named Ely).

District is a bit more manageable a unit than County I think.

I like the idea of a coherent organisation by County, but an extra level 
may well help IMO, for very active areas like the east of England.

David

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[Talk-GB] Tidying up wiki pages for the UK

2009-03-09 Thread Peter Miller

We are planning to give the UK administrative wiki pages a bit of a  
spring clean which are all a bit random, not very well linked and  
contain quite a lot of duplicated content and some very out-of-date  
content.

The plan is as follows:


Firstly we will create wiki pages for the English and welsh counties  
that don't already have one (not many missing actually).

We will then go through all the country pages and get them into a  
similar format with a live map at the top and a 'place' list down the  
right hand side. If there are articles for towns and districts within  
the county we will link to these from the county page.

We will create an England page and move the list of English Counties  
to this page from the UK page

We will create a Wales page (there isn't one yet!) and link it to the  
counties in Wales which we will create if necessary.

We will move any information about towns from the UK page to the  
relevant country page

We will then shrink the UK page down to a list of national projects  
(motorways/cycle routes, A roads etc) and then a list of pages for the  
parts of the UK (England,Wales,Scotland N.Ireland).

The general format we will be using for county pages will be the one  
used for Suffolk, however we will not dump any current information  
from existing County pages, we will just move it down the page.  
Anything blatantly out-of-date will be removed.
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Suffolk

Any thoughts? Please say now if you disagree with any of the above.

When I say we, it is because I and JossSmithson (who works for ITO)  
will be doing the work between us. If anyone else wants to do any of  
this then please join in.


Regards,


Peter




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