Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2009-04-26 Thread Shaun McDonald
It's interesting to see that there is a moderator stating there have  
been quite a few comments on here about the availability of  
administrative boundaries.


I wonder if they will get enough people saying the same thing to  
change their plans.


Shaun

On 23 Apr 2009, at 17:13, Richard Fairhurst wrote:


The Treasury published its review of Ordnance Survey yesterday. It's a
real damp squib.

As has been endlessly debated many times before, there's a lot of
stuff OSM can survey itself - well, most stuff, really - but the real
killer is things like boundary data, which is very difficult or indeed
impossible to find on the ground. It's insane that the information on
which constituency you live in, and hence who your MP is, is copyright
Ordnance Survey, but that's where we are.

So I'd encourage people to post comments to:
  http://strategy.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/goal-1-promote-innovation/

requesting that they release the data publicly with no restrictions,
rather than just making it available via on their own OpenSpace API
under their own terms (which seems to be the current plan).

cheers
Richard


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Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey

2009-04-26 Thread Steve Hill

On Sun, 26 Apr 2009, Shaun McDonald wrote:


It'sĀ interestingĀ to see that there is a moderator stating there have been 
quite a few comments on
here about the availability of administrative boundaries.
I wonder if they will get enough people saying the same thing to change their 
plans.


The comment As the section above on An extended OS OpenSpace service 
indicates, official boundaries information will form part of this extended 
service. indicates to me that they either don't understand the copyright 
concerns being raised (and think that making available data (through 
OpenSpace), rather than making it copyright-free is what people are asking 
for) or they don't care.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Ordnance Survey (Steve Hill)

2009-04-26 Thread Christopher Osborne

 The comment As the section above on An extended OS OpenSpace service
 indicates, official boundaries information will form part of this extended
 service. indicates to me that they either don't understand the copyright
 concerns being raised (and think that making available data (through
 OpenSpace), rather than making it copyright-free is what people are asking
 for) or they don't care.

  - Steve
xmpp:st...@nexusuk.org xmpp%3ast...@nexusuk.org
 sip:st...@nexusuk.org sip%3ast...@nexusuk.org   http://www.nexusuk.org/


 I think the former statement is probably true, they've been operating in a
bubble for so long that they don't understand the copyright/licencing
problems.  Having to explain to someone *very* senior from the OS what OSM
was last week, brought that idea home to me.

Interestingly enough, they held a future planning/brainstorming session on
friday.  Its part of something they call Terra Future, apparently the main
outcome was:

Opening up the OS and integrating with and hosting OSM voted the best idea
at Terra Future 2009.

I have no idea how to process that one!

-- 
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