Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option. Its
on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very very
unloved town.

Cheers

Andy

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Banbury gets my vote. How would Saturday 12 June fit with folks? May is
pretty stacked out for me already.

Cheers

Andy

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Sent: 26 April 2010 10:49 AM
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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

Andy Robinson wrote:
 Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
 somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
 Birmingham. We could thrash out the bones of a UK chapter and see who's
 interested in working on it over a beer or two.

 Anyone want to look and suggest a location or two?

Banbury. Easy direct trains from London and Birmingham. And really needs
some mapping love.

Could also attract our German friends because a) Chiltern Railways are
owned by Deutsche Bahn, b) Banbury sounds a bit like Banpotlatch.

cheers
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Workshop day booking open

2010-04-26 Thread Andrew Mackenzie
Booking open for the workshop day.
Details here
http://mapitude.eventbrite.com/
Volunteers please to present a short introduction on each topic. Or nominate 
someone else.
Thanks
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Proposed Developers' Day in Birmingham- experienced volunteers wanted Sat May 22nd

2010-04-26 Thread Brian Prangle
We are trying to stimulate some local expertise up here to complement our
surveying and increasing contacts with public sector bodies which will soon
produce demands  to produce more customised maps from our data.  So we have
got a small local TV production company(based in the centre of Birmingham)
to donate us their conference facilities for a day on Saturday May 22 and
wehave produced the following outline agenda

Proposed outline of topics. It is a bit ambitious and we
probably cannot include all of it in one day. It really depends on
finding people with knowledge in the different areas.

1. A short introduction to free Maps and OpenStreetMap in particular
  - using datasets (data.gov.uk)
  - Ordnance Survey mapping (trace, import).
  - expand on use scenarios like footpaths and cycleroutes
  - customisation potential of OSM
  - perhaps including the license topic (see point 7) here?

2. The Basics: Adding a map to your website
  - How to use OpenLayers to embed a simple slippy map on a website.
  - Using different maps (Mapnik, Cyclemap, etc)
  - Adding basic map controls (scale, pan/zoom, permalink, etc)
  - Mention: Plugins for Wordpress, etc

3. Advanced maps
  - Using Nominatim to find locations or to do reverse geo-coding
  - Display information on top of the map (markers, lines, photos, ...)

4. Creating custom map styles
  - Cloudmade's style editor
  - Create map styles with mapnik
  - Overlaying transparent map layers

5. Beyond maps: Accessing the data
  - Using XAPI and SSS for overlays
  - Routing

6. Mobile Maps

7. The License
  A short explanation of what the current license mean for developers
  and what will change with the ODBL.

These topic do not really fit with the web developers scheme of the
day but might neveretheless be interesting for some:
  - Creating maps for GPS devices
  - Printing large scale maps

Session four and five could perhaps be done in parallel.

Session 1 and 2 being introductory could be offerd for the morning and th
more advanced stuff for the afternoon so that potentially 2 different groups
of developers/mappers could be catered for and eacxh night only have to give
up half a day

What we don't have is anyone with sufficient depth of knowledge or
experience to deliver any of this stuff So anyone like to volunteer to
deliver some of this ( or suggest any other topics which would be OK for an
introductory day?

Regards

Brian
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus Routes

2010-04-26 Thread Brian Prangle
I'm sure I remember contributing to a page on the mappa-mercia wiki which
listed the bus routes that had been entered as relations. I can't seem to
find it - all I can find is a wikipedia entry which lists ALL the bus routes
in the West Midlands. Can anyone help my memory?

Regards

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus Routes

2010-04-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Brian,

 

click click

 

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bus_Routes_in_West_Midlands/Route_Refs 

 

Cheers

 

Andy

 

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To: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org

Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Bus Routes

 

I'm sure I remember contributing to a page on the mappa-mercia wiki which

listed the bus routes that had been entered as relations. I can't seem to

find it - all I can find is a wikipedia entry which lists ALL the bus

routes in the West Midlands. Can anyone help my memory?

 

Regards

 

Brian

 

 

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Black [mailto:nickbla...@gmail.com] wrote:
Sent: 26 April 2010 6:45 PM
To: Emilie Laffray
Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk-gb OSM List (E-mail); talk-gb-
westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

I would be super keen on Charlbury.  Richard's beer pitch sold perfectly :-
)

It'll need to be somewhere needing mapping to get me interested though and
Charlbury should be a done deal by now ;-)

Cheers

Andy



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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Emilie Laffray
emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 26 April 2010 15:18, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
 ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option.
Its
 on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very
 very
 unloved town.

 For those living near Croydon and not afraid of me driving, this could be
a
 possibility at some point.

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Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM

2010-04-26 Thread Tim François
...and to the list

--- On Mon, 26/4/10, Tim François sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:


From: Tim François sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM
To: Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk
Date: Monday, 26 April, 2010, 9:04







Whoops, yeah, I will document it on that page: currently the script is horribly 
inefficient, and I was gonna clean it up today and post the code on the wiki 
tonight. It's not too long.
 
Oh, and it's in php. Apologies to the haters.
 
:-)
 
Tim

--- On Mon, 26/4/10, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:


From: Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM
To: 'Tim François' sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Monday, 26 April, 2010, 8:30








Hi Tim
 
The wiki page all seems to be clear until the bit where you “use custom script 
to compare data”. Are you going to document the script? Or is it mentioned 
elsewhere and I’m missing it? I’m sort of tempted to try doing the same around 
me in Essex. 
  
Thanks 
  
Ed 
  



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[mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Tim François
Sent: 25 April 2010 20:51
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM
  




All,

I've just had a go hacking the OSLocator data too for here in Bath. The results 
look promising: some streets are missing, some streets are spelt incorrectly, 
whilst others have a ref=* tag, but no name=* tag. What I've done doesn't 
automatically detect these subtleties of course: it just compares names in OS 
Locator with names of ways in OSM for the same area, and spits out the names 
which don't appear in OSM.

The results are at: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bath/OSLocator_Comparison

Hope this will prove useful.

Tim

--- On Fri, 23/4/10, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk wrote: 

From: Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM
To: li...@humanleg.org.uk
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Friday, 23 April, 2010, 19:18 

On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk wrote:
 On Wednesday 21 April 2010, David Dixon wrote:
 I've been playing with the OS OpenData Locator dataset, which contains
 the XY coordinates for the ends  midpoint of many of the UK's roads.
 This gazetteer appears to complement the StreetView data - some (short)
 streets whose names are absent from StreetView are included in OS
 Locator. Conversely, some streets named in StreetView are absent from OS
 Locator.

This has been on my todo list since the data came out.  I'm hoping to
get to it next weekend during the hack weekend but if anyone else gets
to it first I'll do something else!

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
Birmingham. We could thrash out the bones of a UK chapter and see who's
interested in working on it over a beer or two.

Anyone want to look and suggest a location or two?

Cheers

Andy

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boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Osborne
Sent: 25 April 2010 12:53 PM
To: Brian Prangle
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

ok, taking some time off work this week for RR. Will get on this week
after.

Suspect the usual suspects will get involved pretty quickly.


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   We discussed this at our West Mids social meeting and thought it was
a good idea - possibly the West Mids and London groups forming the nucleus
to get this off the ground

   Rgds Brian


   On 24 April 2010 13:59, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:


   don't think so


   On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Christopher Osborne wrote:

Did we get anywhere with starting a GB Chapter?
   
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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Artem Pavlenko
Charlbury comes to mind (good beer!)

Best,
Artem

On 26 April 2010 09:43, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) 
ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
 somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
 Birmingham. We could thrash out the bones of a UK chapter and see who's
 interested in working on it over a beer or two.

 Anyone want to look and suggest a location or two?

 Cheers

 Andy

 -Original Message-
 From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-
 boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Christopher Osborne
 Sent: 25 April 2010 12:53 PM
 To: Brian Prangle
 Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter
 
 ok, taking some time off work this week for RR. Will get on this week
 after.
 
 Suspect the usual suspects will get involved pretty quickly.
 
 
 On 24 April 2010 14:20, Brian Prangle bpran...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
 
We discussed this at our West Mids social meeting and thought it
 was
 a good idea - possibly the West Mids and London groups forming the nucleus
 to get this off the ground
 
Rgds Brian
 
 
On 24 April 2010 13:59, SteveC st...@asklater.com wrote:
 
 
don't think so
 
 
On Apr 24, 2010, at 5:07 AM, Christopher Osborne wrote:
 
 Did we get anywhere with starting a GB Chapter?

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Ciarán Mooney
Hi,

 Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
 somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
 Birmingham.

That's a great idea! Could you suggest a date? Date's are usually more
of a problem for me than location.

Cheers,

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Andy Robinson wrote:
 Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
 somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
 Birmingham. We could thrash out the bones of a UK chapter and see who's
 interested in working on it over a beer or two.

 Anyone want to look and suggest a location or two?

Banbury. Easy direct trains from London and Birmingham. And really needs 
some mapping love.

Could also attract our German friends because a) Chiltern Railways are 
owned by Deutsche Bahn, b) Banbury sounds a bit like Banpotlatch.

cheers
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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 26 April 2010 09:51, Artem Pavlenko artem.map...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Charlbury comes to mind (good beer!)



Sounds good to me. Hopefully it will be during a week I am not on holiday :)

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Nick Whitelegg
 Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
 somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
 Birmingham. We could thrash out the bones of a UK chapter and see who's
 interested in working on it over a beer or two.

 Anyone want to look and suggest a location or two?

Banbury. Easy direct trains from London and Birmingham. And really needs 
some mapping love.

I could probably do somewhere like that even from Southampton. Within the 
Network Card zone (I think Banbury is the extreme N limit) would be good, 
to avoid spending a fortune on rail fares...

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Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Kev js1982
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote:

 I am currently trying to create a series of shapefiles from postcodes
 (using OS Open Geo Data) using the code from Random Junk (
 http://random.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodes/#) running on Ubuntu 9.10
 but I can't get it working.

 lots of blah blah about what I did...


Think i've sussed most of it...

I zapped my pyshapelib folder and downloaded both it and shapelib again

With the shapelib and pyshapelib tar gzs inside my osm folder I then issued
the following commands

tar -xvzf shapelib-1.2.10.tar.gz
mv shapelib-1.2.10 shapelib
tar -xvzf pyshapelib-0.3.tar.gz
mv pyshapelib-0.3 shapelib/pyshapelib/
cd shapelib
make
cd pyshapelib
python setup.py build
sudo python setup.py install
cd ../../
# The next line is really important if you want python to think this folder
has python scripts
touch shapelib/__init__.py
cp shapelib/pyshapelib/* shapelib/

This seamed to get over the original problem

Then you need to ensure you input file has no trailing lines

And now to work out why I'm getting

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File makeShapeColoured.py, line 349, in module
result = voronoi.computeVoronoiDiagram(pts)
  File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 746, in computeVoronoiDiagram
voronoi(siteList,context)
  File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 206, in voronoi
edge = Edge.bisect(bot,newsite)
  File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 404, in bisect
newedge.a = dx/dy
ZeroDivisionError: float division
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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Gregory
I

On 26 April 2010 04:57, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:

  Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
  somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
  Birmingham. We could thrash out the bones of a UK chapter and see who's
  interested in working on it over a beer or two.
 
  Anyone want to look and suggest a location or two?

 Banbury. Easy direct trains from London and Birmingham. And really needs
 some mapping love.

 I could probably do somewhere like that even from Southampton. Within the
 Network Card zone (I think Banbury is the extreme N limit) would be good,
 to avoid spending a fortune on rail fares...


Ideally a month+ allows to buy train tickets at a good price.
Is this going to be a mega mapping event of seeing what happens when most of
the great GB surveyors get together in one unmapped place (with some evolved
experience of OSMing)?!

As someone mentioned, a date can be harder than a location. Is it thought to
do this before SOTM(May/June) or after (July/August/later)? I would suggest
creating a doodle.com of the Saturdays and seeing who's available.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Dave Stubbs
On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 1:24 PM, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote:
 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote:

 I am currently trying to create a series of shapefiles from postcodes
 (using OS Open Geo Data) using the code from Random Junk
 (http://random.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodes/#) running on Ubuntu 9.10 but
 I can't get it working.

 lots of blah blah about what I did...

 And now to work out why I'm getting

 Traceback (most recent call last):
   File makeShapeColoured.py, line 349, in module
     result = voronoi.computeVoronoiDiagram(pts)
   File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 746, in computeVoronoiDiagram
     voronoi(siteList,context)
   File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 206, in voronoi
     edge = Edge.bisect(bot,newsite)
   File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 404, in bisect
     newedge.a = dx/dy
 ZeroDivisionError: float division



These are caused by more than one postcode for the same point --
you'll need to preprocess the input files to remove any duplicates
coordinates. There's quite a lot of apparent PO boxes and other odd
postcodes in the OS data which result in duplicate points.

Also note that it'll use about 6GBs of RAM to run for the complete OS
dataset of 1.6 million points.

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Banbury gets my vote. How would Saturday 12 June fit with folks? May is
pretty stacked out for me already.

Cheers

Andy

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To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

Andy Robinson wrote:
 Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
 somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
 Birmingham. We could thrash out the bones of a UK chapter and see who's
 interested in working on it over a beer or two.

 Anyone want to look and suggest a location or two?

Banbury. Easy direct trains from London and Birmingham. And really needs
some mapping love.

Could also attract our German friends because a) Chiltern Railways are
owned by Deutsche Bahn, b) Banbury sounds a bit like Banpotlatch.

cheers
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Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Jerry Clough - OSM
GRASS seems to have some kind of Voronoi algorithm, but I find its interface 
very non-intuitive, so have not found it to try it out. This may be worth 
pursuing as an alternative route.

As an aside: I notice that virtually all postcode boundaries are obviously 
created in this way. For instance the Philips Street Atlas shows totally 
implausible boundaries along the River Trent in S. Notts. Given that postcode 
boundaries are ultimately determined by logistically sensible walks for 
postmen, in this case it's pretty safe to assume that the boundary is actually 
the river. What this means is that by applying a bit of local knowledge and the 
existing points it is possible to create better delineating zones in OSM than 
appear in current mapping. Whether this is a good thing to do, or not, I leave 
for others to decide.





From: Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu
To: OSM - Talk GB talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Sent: Mon, 26 April, 2010 12:24:26
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile


On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 12:00 PM, Kev js1982 o...@kevswindells.eu wrote:

I am currently trying to create a series of shapefiles from postcodes (using 
OS Open Geo Data) using the code from Random Junk 
(http://random.dev.openstreetmap.org/postcodes/#) running on Ubuntu 9.10 but I 
can't get it working.

lots of blah blah about what I did...


Think i've sussed most of it...

I zapped my pyshapelib folder and downloaded both it and shapelib again

With the shapelib and pyshapelib tar gzs inside my osm folder I then 
issued the following commands

tar -xvzf shapelib-1.2.10.tar.gz
mv shapelib-1.2.10 shapelib
tar -xvzf pyshapelib-0.3.tar.gz
mv pyshapelib-0.3 shapelib/pyshapelib/
cd shapelib
make
cd pyshapelib
python setup.py build
sudo python setup.py install
cd ../../
# The next line is really important if you want python to think this folder has 
python scripts
touch shapelib/__init__.py
cp shapelib/pyshapelib/* shapelib/

This seamed to get over the original problem

Then you need to ensure you input file has no trailing lines

And now to work out why I'm getting

Traceback (most recent call last):
  File makeShapeColoured.py, line 349, in module
result = voronoi.computeVoronoiDiagram(pts)
  File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 746, in computeVoronoiDiagram
voronoi(siteList,context)
  File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 206, in voronoi
edge = Edge.bisect(bot,newsite)
  File /home/kev/osm/voronoi.py, line 404, in bisect
newedge.a = dx/dy
ZeroDivisionError: float division 


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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 26 April 2010 15:12, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) 
ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Banbury gets my vote. How would Saturday 12 June fit with folks? May is
 pretty stacked out for me already.


 +1 for me

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option. Its
on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very very
unloved town.

Cheers

Andy

-Original Message-
From: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) [mailto:ajrli...@googlemail.com]
Sent: 26 April 2010 3:12 PM
To: 'Richard Fairhurst'; 'talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)'
Cc: talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

Banbury gets my vote. How would Saturday 12 June fit with folks? May is
pretty stacked out for me already.

Cheers

Andy

-Original Message-
From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-
boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Richard Fairhurst
Sent: 26 April 2010 10:49 AM
To: talk-gb OSM List (E-mail)
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

Andy Robinson wrote:
 Might be cool to set up a Saturday mapping party and social combined
 somewhere easy to reach and needing some mapping between London and
 Birmingham. We could thrash out the bones of a UK chapter and see who's
 interested in working on it over a beer or two.

 Anyone want to look and suggest a location or two?

Banbury. Easy direct trains from London and Birmingham. And really needs
some mapping love.

Could also attract our German friends because a) Chiltern Railways are
owned by Deutsche Bahn, b) Banbury sounds a bit like Banpotlatch.

cheers
Richard

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Re: [Talk-GB] Postcodes to Shapefile

2010-04-26 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 26 April 2010 15:13, Jerry Clough - OSM sk53_...@yahoo.co.uk wrote:

 GRASS seems to have some kind of Voronoi algorithm, but I find its
 interface very non-intuitive, so have not found it to try it out. This may
 be worth pursuing as an alternative route.

 As an aside: I notice that virtually all postcode boundaries are obviously
 created in this way. For instance the Philips Street Atlas shows totally
 implausible boundaries along the River Trent in S. Notts. Given that
 postcode boundaries are ultimately determined by logistically sensible walks
 for postmen, in this case it's pretty safe to assume that the boundary is
 actually the river. What this means is that by applying a bit of local
 knowledge and the existing points it is possible to create better
 delineating zones in OSM than appear in current mapping. Whether this is a
 good thing to do, or not, I leave for others to decide.


I think that GEOS has now implemented both voronoi and Delaunay
triangulation algorithms. I am not quite though that they have a Python
Binding. Some part of GEOS is expose through the GDAL binding, but it is
incomplete.

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Emilie Laffray
On 26 April 2010 15:18, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) 
ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option. Its
 on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very
 very
 unloved town.


For those living near Croydon and not afraid of me driving, this could be a
possibility at some point.

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Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM

2010-04-26 Thread Tim François
All,

I've updated the wiki page with the code I've been using, and smartened up the 
instructions a bit.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bath/OSLocator_Comparison

The code isn't perfect (for example, I don't think it works with street names 
which have an apostrophe - there are probably more problems: if you have a fix, 
just change the code on the wiki), but as all the checking is manual anyway, 
this shouldn't matter too much.

Also, it is php, not python. You'll need php-cli installed.

Thanks
Tim

--- On Mon, 26/4/10, Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk wrote:

From: Ed Loach e...@loach.me.uk
Subject: RE: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM
To: 'Tim François' sk1pp...@yahoo.co.uk
Date: Monday, 26 April, 2010, 8:30




 
 






Hi Tim 

   

The wiki page all seems to be clear until the bit where you “use
custom script to compare data”. Are you going to document the script? Or is it
mentioned elsewhere and I’m missing it? I’m sort of tempted to try doing the
same around me in Essex. 

   

Thanks 

   

Ed 

   







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[mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Tim François

Sent: 25 April 2010 20:51

To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org

Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM 





   


 
  
  All,

  

  I've just had a go hacking the OSLocator data too for here in Bath. The
  results look promising: some streets are missing, some streets are spelt
  incorrectly, whilst others have a ref=* tag, but no name=* tag. What I've
  done doesn't automatically detect these subtleties of course: it just
  compares names in OS Locator with names of ways in OSM for the same area, and
  spits out the names which don't appear in OSM.

  

  The results are at:
  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bath/OSLocator_Comparison

  

  Hope this will prove useful.

  

  Tim

  

  --- On Fri, 23/4/10, Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk
  wrote: 
  

  From: Brian Quinion openstreet...@brian.quinion.co.uk

  Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] OS Locator - using in JOSM

  To: li...@humanleg.org.uk

  Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org

  Date: Friday, 23 April, 2010, 19:18 
  
  On Wed, Apr 21, 2010 at 9:19 PM, Robert Scott li...@humanleg.org.uk
  wrote:

   On Wednesday 21 April 2010, David Dixon wrote:

   I've been playing with the OS OpenData Locator dataset, which
  contains

   the XY coordinates for the ends  midpoint of many of the UK's
  roads.

   This gazetteer appears to complement the StreetView data - some
  (short)

   streets whose names are absent from StreetView are included in OS

   Locator. Conversely, some streets named in StreetView are absent
  from OS

   Locator.

  

  This has been on my todo list since the data came out.  I'm hoping to

  get to it next weekend during the hack weekend but if anyone else gets

  to it first I'll do something else!

  

  --

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
Nick Black [mailto:nickbla...@gmail.com] wrote:
Sent: 26 April 2010 6:45 PM
To: Emilie Laffray
Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk-gb OSM List (E-mail); talk-gb-
westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

I would be super keen on Charlbury.  Richard's beer pitch sold perfectly :-
)

It'll need to be somewhere needing mapping to get me interested though and
Charlbury should be a done deal by now ;-)

Cheers

Andy



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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Emilie Laffray
emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote:


 On 26 April 2010 15:18, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
 ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option.
Its
 on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very
 very
 unloved town.

 For those living near Croydon and not afraid of me driving, this could be
a
 possibility at some point.

 Emilie Laffray

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Gregory
For finding out when is a good date:
http://doodle.com/gbm9zezspi9tz6m4
Add your name, tick the dates that are good for you.

I see this is on the talk-gb-wetmidlands list, so I'm also sending to
talk-gb-thenorth for anyone who just reads that. We're planning a get
together on a Saturday (for some mapping and) to discuss the formation of a
GB chapter. Somewhere between Birmingham and London.

On 26 April 2010 11:09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) 
ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:

 Nick Black [mailto:nickbla...@gmail.com] wrote:
 Sent: 26 April 2010 6:45 PM
 To: Emilie Laffray
 Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk-gb OSM List (E-mail); talk-gb-
 westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst
 Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter
 
 I would be super keen on Charlbury.  Richard's beer pitch sold perfectly
 :-
 )

 It'll need to be somewhere needing mapping to get me interested though and
 Charlbury should be a done deal by now ;-)

 Cheers

 Andy


 
 --
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 On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Emilie Laffray
 emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote:
 
 
  On 26 April 2010 15:18, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
  ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote:
 
  Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option.
 Its
  on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very
  very
  unloved town.
 
  For those living near Croydon and not afraid of me driving, this could
 be
 a
  possibility at some point.
 
  Emilie Laffray
 
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