Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] GB Chapter
For finding out when is a good date: http://doodle.com/gbm9zezspi9tz6m4 Add your name, tick the dates that are good for you. I see this is on the talk-gb-wetmidlands list, so I'm also sending to talk-gb-thenorth for anyone who just reads that. We're planning a get together on a Saturday (for some mapping and) to discuss the formation of a GB chapter. Somewhere between Birmingham and London. On 26 April 2010 11:09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Nick Black [mailto:nickbla...@gmail.com] wrote: Sent: 26 April 2010 6:45 PM To: Emilie Laffray Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk-gb OSM List (E-mail); talk-gb- westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter I would be super keen on Charlbury. Richard's beer pitch sold perfectly :- ) It'll need to be somewhere needing mapping to get me interested though and Charlbury should be a done deal by now ;-) Cheers Andy -- Nick On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 April 2010 15:18, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option. Its on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very very unloved town. For those living near Croydon and not afraid of me driving, this could be a possibility at some point. Emilie Laffray ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2835 - Release Date: 04/25/10 19:31:00 ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] GB Chapter
Oops, but I'm totally accepting whatever comical/deliberate credit I get for the typo. Don't be silly, you probably already have mapped the flooded areas and 'ferry' routes the emergency services will take, along with what flooded areas are like the Red Sea because of a high concentration of salt/grit bins. Only 6 replies to the doodle poll, but June 12th is looking like it might be a winner. Greg. On 27 April 2010 04:26, Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com wrote: WetMidlands? Has has there been a weather event that I haven't heard about? Or is this just a political description? Should we be doing some emergency mapping of the flooded areas? O:-) Or perhaps it is simply that a meet of this kind could not be dry mikh43 On 19:59, Gregory wrote: For finding out when is a good date: http://doodle.com/gbm9zezspi9tz6m4 Add your name, tick the dates that are good for you. I see this is on the talk-gb-wetmidlands list, so I'm also sending to talk-gb-thenorth for anyone who just reads that. We're planning a get together on a Saturday (for some mapping and) to discuss the formation of a GB chapter. Somewhere between Birmingham and London. On 26 April 2010 11:09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Nick Black [mailto:nickbla...@gmail.com] wrote: Sent: 26 April 2010 6:45 PM To: Emilie Laffray Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk-gb OSM List (E-mail); talk-gb- westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter I would be super keen on Charlbury. Richard's beer pitch sold perfectly :- ) It'll need to be somewhere needing mapping to get me interested though and Charlbury should be a done deal by now ;-) Cheers Andy -- Nick On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 April 2010 15:18, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option. Its on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very very unloved town. For those living near Croydon and not afraid of me driving, this could be a possibility at some point. Emilie Laffray ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.801 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/2835 - Release Date: 04/25/10 19:31:00 ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com -- *Mike Harris* -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-GB] [Talk-gb-westmidlands] GB Chapter
Mary Mooney wrote: Sent: 09 May 2010 8:42 AM To: Gregory Cc: Mike Harris; Talk GB; talk-gb-westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; talk-gb- theno...@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] GB Chapter I do not know why, but this email (12 days old) has only just popped up in my Inbox. Perhaps it was stuck in the ether and that is why there are only a few responses to the Doodle. I cleared some mail that was pending administrator check. Mostly they are spam but occasionally there is an OSM related one from someone who is not subscribed to the list, I usually let those though, even if they are a little old. Cheers Andy Mary On 27 April 2010 14:39, Gregory nomoregra...@googlemail.com wrote: Oops, but I'm totally accepting whatever comical/deliberate credit I get for the typo. Don't be silly, you probably already have mapped the flooded areas and 'ferry' routes the emergency services will take, along with what flooded areas are like the Red Sea because of a high concentration of salt/grit bins. Only 6 replies to the doodle poll, but June 12th is looking like it might be a winner. Greg. On 27 April 2010 04:26, Mike Harris mik...@googlemail.com wrote: WetMidlands? Has has there been a weather event that I haven't heard about? Or is this just a political description? Should we be doing some emergency mapping of the flooded areas? O:-) Or perhaps it is simply that a meet of this kind could not be dry mikh43 On 19:59, Gregory wrote: For finding out when is a good date: http://doodle.com/gbm9zezspi9tz6m4 Add your name, tick the dates that are good for you. I see this is on the talk-gb-wetmidlands list, so I'm also sending to talk-gb-thenorth for anyone who just reads that. We're planning a get together on a Saturday (for some mapping and) to discuss the formation of a GB chapter. Somewhere between Birmingham and London. On 26 April 2010 11:09, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Nick Black [mailto:nickbla...@gmail.com] wrote: Sent: 26 April 2010 6:45 PM To: Emilie Laffray Cc: Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists); talk-gb OSM List (E-mail); talk-gb- westmidla...@openstreetmap.org; Richard Fairhurst Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter I would be super keen on Charlbury. Richard's beer pitch sold perfectly :- ) It'll need to be somewhere needing mapping to get me interested though and Charlbury should be a done deal by now ;-) Cheers Andy -- Nick On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Emilie Laffray emilie.laff...@gmail.com wrote: On 26 April 2010 15:18, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) ajrli...@googlemail.com wrote: Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option. Its on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very very unloved town. For those living near Croydon and not afraid of me driving, this could be a possibility at some point. Emilie Laffray ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- -- Nick Black twitter.com/nick_b No virus found in this incoming message.
Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API
dear Bob, all, On 08/05/2010 18:17, Bob Kerr wrote: Hi, I have been in touch with them and they are keen that we should be allowed to use their data so that we can create derived information that we can use for Openstreetmap. They have told me that they are willing to use the Open Database Licence with OSM they may just need some clarification of some minor details Is there anyone on the list that has experience with licensing that could get in touch with them. I am happy to be an intermediary and I have met them more than once and they know me. I would just like a little backup because this could be very beneficial to us in openstreetmap and to the Library. It would be beneficial to the library because they get more interest and recognition for their work Okay, Chris Fleet (the Map Librarian at NLS) will be presenting this service at Open Knowledge Scotland, and relevantly, Charlotte Waelde and Andres Guadamuz, old colleagues of Jordan Hatcher (of Open Data Commons/ODBL) at SCRIPT, they'll be doing a clinic on open data licensing issues. So we can make sure everyone meets - Bob i see you're on the okscotland attendee list already which is great because we're well overcapacity - and even raise this as a test case at their clinic, if they have that kind of flexibility. Bob, i did forward Chris and Petr the original mail from Frederik lasy week, if there's any followup I'll definitely cc you (and look forward to meeting on Thursday!) I could also *try* asking JISC Legal, it would be useful to get stable advisory words wrt ODbL from them. cheers, jo -- ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter
On Sun, May 09, 2010 at 12:46:09PM +0100, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote: I do not know why, but this email (12 days old) has only just popped up in my Inbox. Perhaps it was stuck in the ether and that is why there are only a few responses to the Doodle. I cleared some mail that was pending administrator check. Mostly they are spam but occasionally there is an OSM related one from someone who is not subscribed to the list, I usually let those though, even if they are a little old. Same for talk-gb-thenorth. I usually let seemingly legitimate OSM mail from non‐subscribers through, but it will be delayed until an admin can attend to it. For posting anything, especially time dependent mails, across different lists I recommend subscribing to the lists to reduce delays. If you want to post, but not receive email from a list you can always set the appropriate option using the web interface (Mail delivery: disabled). Simon -- A complex system that works is invariably found to have evolved from a simple system that works.—John Gall signature.asc Description: Digital signature ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] FW: State of play of OS Vector data
Thanks everyone. When streetview came out last month there was talk about not rushing to trace buildings but from what I've read this doesn't seem to be the case any more. Is streetview the best building level detail we have from the OS? There is no aerial photography where I am. Thanks, Steve -Original Message- From: talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org [mailto:talk-gb-boun...@openstreetmap.org] On Behalf Of Chris Hill Sent: 02 May 2010 18:01 To: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] State of play of OS Vector data The Meridian data is pretty crude and incomplete. The residential level roads seem to be largely missing, especially in rural areas. The curves are chunky and crude. Similarly the woods and water are not fully represented and are chunky. The admin borders have chunks missing. I just ignored it as worthless. I am strongly in favour of surveying on the ground where possible. I'm trying to use the OS data for things we can't gather, such as boundaries and inaccessible things such as docks, some waterways and some railways. Tracing the StreetView, with a suitable source tag, seems to me to provide a way for people who can't survey on the ground to add something, but the data you miss by doing this (shops, maxspeed, pubs, schools, churches, post boxes and so on, as well as stuff OS got wrong/missed/have changed) still makes this a poor, second rate job. Using such a tracing to then walk/cycle/drive around to add the POIs does add a lot of value. Cheers, Chris Graham Jones wrote: Hi Chris, That is a really good summary of what the dataset contains thank you - the woodland areas will certainly be useful for countryside maps. Do you know how this data compares to the Meridian data that OS released last month? I know many people were unimpressed with it, but I think that it contained street names didn't it? If so maybe that would be a more useful 'first pass' import? I am thinking of some areas where I know there are housing estates, but I have neither the time nor inclination to cycle around them to do a proper survey - Having something in the map for these seems better than nothing to me. If we were to import such data (via an editor as discussed before - not a bulk import!), we could tag it as 'verified=no' and get the renderers to show them in a lighter colour until someone checks it and takes the 'verified=no' tag off? This could alleviate the concerns that people had that users will not survey an area if it looks complete on the map? Regards Graham. On 2 May 2010 13:14, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net mailto:o...@raggedred.net wrote: Seventy 7 wrote: Can someone tell us what's happening with the latest release of OS data please? When streetview came out there were quite a few emails about tiles being rendered for tracing etc but this time it's all been very quiet! I presume someone somewhere is doing the vector data, but what about the others? I've just written a blog about VectorMap http://is.gd/bQUgR Cheers, Chris ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org mailto:Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- Dr. Graham Jones Hartlepool, UK email: grahamjones...@gmail.com mailto:grahamjones...@gmail.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb -- ___ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API
Superb and thanks, Open Knowledge Scotland is the perfect venue to go forward with this Cheers Bob --- On Sun, 9/5/10, Jo Walsh j...@frot.org wrote: From: Jo Walsh j...@frot.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API To: Bob Kerr openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Date: Sunday, 9 May, 2010, 15:34 dear Bob, all, On 08/05/2010 18:17, Bob Kerr wrote: Hi, I have been in touch with them and they are keen that we should be allowed to use their data so that we can create derived information that we can use for Openstreetmap. They have told me that they are willing to use the Open Database Licence with OSM they may just need some clarification of some minor details Is there anyone on the list that has experience with licensing that could get in touch with them. I am happy to be an intermediary and I have met them more than once and they know me. I would just like a little backup because this could be very beneficial to us in openstreetmap and to the Library. It would be beneficial to the library because they get more interest and recognition for their work Okay, Chris Fleet (the Map Librarian at NLS) will be presenting this service at Open Knowledge Scotland, and relevantly, Charlotte Waelde and Andres Guadamuz, old colleagues of Jordan Hatcher (of Open Data Commons/ODBL) at SCRIPT, they'll be doing a clinic on open data licensing issues. So we can make sure everyone meets - Bob i see you're on the okscotland attendee list already which is great because we're well overcapacity - and even raise this as a test case at their clinic, if they have that kind of flexibility. Bob, i did forward Chris and Petr the original mail from Frederik lasy week, if there's any followup I'll definitely cc you (and look forward to meeting on Thursday!) I could also *try* asking JISC Legal, it would be useful to get stable advisory words wrt ODbL from them. cheers, jo -- ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] FW: State of play of OS Vector data
On Sunday 09 May 2010 19:16:41 Seventy 7 wrote: When streetview came out last month there was talk about not rushing to trace buildings but from what I've read this doesn't seem to be the case any more. Is streetview the best building level detail we have from the OS? There is no aerial photography where I am. Mastermap is the best building level detail Ordnance Survey offer but OSM can't use it. So Ordnance Survey Street View is best from them OSM can trace for buildings. I just looked at the OS Vector District tiles in QGIS ( http://www.qgis.org/ ) and found that they have added noise with often curious artifacts to the buildings to fill in a little up to the roads often, and within blocks of buildings . So ok for looking at lower scalesto give the built up area but not represent reality of individual buildings (and speces) on ground at higher scales. OS Street View seems a bit better. I may put up some side by side screenshot examples on my blog some time, The water features and woodlands in OS Vector District on other hand seem good to go, comparing very well with what I know on the ground and I am for importing them, after a little clean up, at least on tile by tile basis or feature by feature with a little local vetting. But I notice some tiles have some water features as per Street View and other tiles have are missing similar ones present elsewhere. Tide lines look pretty good, matching up well with GPS track I took of path that followed tile line, and off shore islands and costal features look pretty good. I am still getting to grips with QGIS have yet to work out how to convert once identified area I want to using Open Street Map. But I am in no great rush. I only want to mess about with small areas of specific features I have some direct knowleage of. cheers, Micah -- http://blog.j12.org/ -- ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
