Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?
> >>> I'm up for it. Finding enough to sustain a mapping party might be >>> difficult (South Hants is more or less road and footpath complete) but >>> we could make it a social. Anyone else interested? > >>> Andy >> >> Yes, I'd be interested. Robert - I'm aware of you via 'robbieonsea' edits >> (usually in the exact same type of areas I tend to go!) so would be great to >> meet up >>with you. Anyone else - Caroline? 'Sailor Steve' ? >Sure. Also I bumped into jjrscott last night, he might be interested too. OK, shall I do a doodle poll? How does somewhere in Southampton sound? Could be Portsmouth or Winchester if people would prefer that. Nick ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Hampshire Vandalization - No Bere Forest?
Hello gents (and ladies?), I am new to OSM and mapping but have an interest in rights of way - particularly unsurfaced roads. These are generally referred to as byways, ORPAs, UCRs . I see that the OSM data has some of these, but possibly only 10% to 20% coverage. There are a few things I'd like to do to improve this. (1) Surveys - I am doing what I can but it's a slow process. (2) Update designation='public_byway' to designation='byway_open_to_all_traffic' or designation='restricted_byway' as appropriate Perhaps a FIXME tag on designation='public_byway' would be useful - any advice on this welcome. (3) Use council definitive statements to update the data semi-automatically as I understand the licensing may be ok. (4) Create more knowledge/clarity on tagging UCRs/ORPAs/unsurfaced roads. I am trying to understand the optimum tagging from the OSM KB here, and update/collate this. Any help/advice would be very welcome. Also - a meetup/mapping party/social would be good.. I'm based in Haslemere, Surrey (bordering Surrey/Sussex/Hampshire). Peter On 20 April 2012 09:21, Nick Whitelegg wrote: > > > > > >>> I'm up for it. Finding enough to sustain a mapping party might be > >>> difficult (South Hants is more or less road and footpath complete) but > >>> we could make it a social. Anyone else interested? > > > >>> Andy > >> > >> Yes, I'd be interested. Robert - I'm aware of you via 'robbieonsea' > edits (usually in the exact same type of areas I tend to go!) so would be > great to meet up >>with you. Anyone else - Caroline? 'Sailor Steve' ? > > >Sure. Also I bumped into jjrscott last night, he might be interested too. > > OK, shall I do a doodle poll? > > How does somewhere in Southampton sound? Could be Portsmouth or Winchester > if people would prefer that. > > Nick > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] UK Tagging Guideline - wiki page proposals
Hi all, It has been mentioned in the past (and I expect many others have thought it), that the current UK Tagging Guidelines wiki page [1] is to confusing for newcomers and data consumers alike. I have had a go at addressing this by creating a new version of this page [2]. As discussed on the Talk section of this new page [3], I have tried to work in many of your (the UK mappers) suggestions. I have used the wiki cleanup objectives as a guide and have incorporated the following key changes: (i) Copyright - The first section replaces the current "Obtaining the data" section and promotes the existing "Copyright" section to a more prominent position. Info most relevant to helping new UK mappers is highlighted (ii) Classic UK vs Alternative Global - The wiki guidelines (above) state that we should "Provide a place for people to discuss new tagging proposals". I have therefore kept both schemes. So as to not excessively confuse newcomers I have split the page so that it reads as (a) tag the fact that the way is there, (b) tag its legal status if applicable. (iii) Public Rights of Way - As discussed on the talk-gb mailing list a public right of way may run along a track, road, etc.. I have therefore removed as much as the UK Classic vs Global Alternative debate out of this section into (a) - "tag features presence". Following Achadwick suggestion on Talk:United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines that the right of way should be signified using the designation key (see table below). I have heavily refocused the page to emphasise this. This greatly simplifies things for newcomers & data consumers. In a way it also reduces the UK Classic vs Global Alternative debate. (iv) Scotland - Now has a separate section ready to be filled in. Please take your time to have a look, and feedback comments to this mailing list. Be friendly; I am still relatively new and this is my first real go at editing a wiki :-) Regards, RobJN [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines_Consultation [3] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines_Consultation ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] UK Tagging Guideline - wiki page proposals
Brave man! Globally, highway=path is mostly used without any access tags, judging by taginfo: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org/tags/highway=path#combinations So I think "Classic" and "Alternative" are adequate titles. "Established" and "Alternative" would probably be more accurate. Richard On Fri, Apr 20, 2012 at 11:17 PM, wrote: > Hi all, > > It has been mentioned in the past (and I expect many others have thought > it), that the current UK Tagging Guidelines wiki page [1] is to confusing > for newcomers and data consumers alike. I have had a go at addressing this > by creating a new version of this page [2]. As discussed on the Talk > section of this new page [3], I have tried to work in many of your (the UK > mappers) suggestions. > > I have used the wiki cleanup objectives as a guide and have incorporated > the following key changes: > > (i) Copyright - The first section replaces the current "Obtaining the > data" section and promotes the existing "Copyright" section to a more > prominent position. Info most relevant to helping new UK mappers is > highlighted > > (ii) Classic UK vs Alternative Global - The wiki guidelines (above) state > that we should "Provide a place for people to discuss new tagging > proposals". I have therefore kept both schemes. So as to not excessively > confuse newcomers I have split the page so that it reads as (a) tag the > fact that the way is there, (b) tag its legal status if applicable. > > (iii) Public Rights of Way - As discussed on the talk-gb mailing list a > public right of way may run along a track, road, etc.. I have therefore > removed as much as the UK Classic vs Global Alternative debate out of this > section into (a) - "tag features presence". Following Achadwick suggestion > on Talk:United Kingdom Tagging Guidelines that the right of way should be > signified using the designation key (see table below). I have heavily > refocused the page to emphasise this. This greatly simplifies things for > newcomers & data consumers. In a way it also reduces the UK Classic vs > Global Alternative debate. > > (iv) Scotland - Now has a separate section ready to be filled in. > > > Please take your time to have a look, and feedback comments to this > mailing list. Be friendly; I am still relatively new and this is my first > real go at editing a wiki :-) > > Regards, > RobJN > > > > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines > [2] > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines_Consultation > [3] > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:United_Kingdom_Tagging_Guidelines_Consultation > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] UK Tagging Guideline - wiki page proposals
Just a couple of quick notes: * The cycle path section is a bit misleading as it stands. The tagging you have shown is for standalone paths (i.e. mapped separately from a road); the majority of cycle paths in the UK are on the side of a road and thus should be tagged something like "highway=, cycleway=track, segregated=yes/no". I've copied the relevant section onto my user page and altered it: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Spark * I would prefer to see the 'UK Classic vs Global' stuff taken out - these are the *UK* guidelines and hence the best/commonest practice in the UK should be given. Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
