Re: [Talk-GB] Gibraltar - Mapping Party?

2012-10-08 Thread Nick Whitelegg

Yes, I was questioning one of the authors (Goldman) rather than the guy who 
posted to the list (John Baker).

Back to the mapping party itself, I might be interested but, due to work 
commitments, only if it was on certain dates: early in the new year (Jan 
1st-6th); Easter or next summer.

Nick

-Rob Nickerson  wrote: -
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From: Rob Nickerson 
Date: 07/10/2012 11:18PM
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Gibraltar - Mapping Party?

I don't think anyone was questioning the authenticity of the claim (rather the 
motive of one of the authors given the padding he used around this claim).

As Andy says, it is up to everyone to decide for themselves. Perhaps this could 
have been raised a little earlier so that people were aware and could make this 
decision, so thanks for brining it to the attention of the readers of this 
list. Can I suggest that this is not the place to make claims and 
counter-claims in relation to this topic. There are plenty of other websites 
that are probably better placed for this - lets stick to mapping here.
 
Rob
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[Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

2012-10-08 Thread Bogus Zaba
Scanning St Helens town centre this morning it seemed that a lot of ways 
making up the pedestrianised centre of town were missing. I thought this 
might be a "rendering engines not caught up with recent edits" 
phenomenon, but checking with JOSM just now I see that there are indeed 
no ways around an area centred roughly on (53.45, -2.74). A lot of 
individual nodes are there (pubs, bus-stops etc) are there but the ways 
have gone.


Although I visit St Helens every few weeks or months this is not really 
my backyard, but I am pretty sure that these ways were pretty well 
mapped last time I looked.


Cannot tell if this is somebody's mistake or vandalism, but can 
something be done to put back what has been taken away? Given that there 
is nothing there at all I cannot tell from JOSM history whether there 
was a particular chageset that caused the problem.


Some of the surrounding ways that are present have a recent changeset 
made by "OSMF Redaction Account" - is that removal of ways that do not 
conform to the new licence by any chance?


Bogus Zaba


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Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

2012-10-08 Thread Frederik Ramm

Hi,

On 10/08/2012 12:41 PM, Bogus Zaba wrote:

Cannot tell if this is somebody's mistake or vandalism, but can
something be done to put back what has been taken away?


Many ways in the town centre had to be removed in the license change:

http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/?view=redactionbot&lat=53.44899&lon=-2.73245&zoom=15

It seems that at most of these have been contributed by user Salkunh who 
had not agreed to the new license when the redaction was executed. He 
seems to have agreed later, but the data cannot be automatically restored.


Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

2012-10-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Frederik Ramm wrote:
> It seems that at most of these have been contributed by user Salkunh 
> who had not agreed to

"had declined"

> the new license when the redaction was executed. He 

"She"

> seems to have agreed later, but the data cannot be automatically 
> restored.

I e-mailed Salkunh back in February with a nice friendly plea saying "St
Helens and Widnes would look much poorer without your contributions". I'd
even hoped that a plea coming from someone with a good St Helens surname
would have been listened to (there's about four Fairhursts in the Oxford
phone book, and about four pages of them in the St Helens one...). Ah well.

cheers
Richard





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Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

2012-10-08 Thread Nick Whitelegg
>(there's about four Fairhursts in the Oxford
>phone book, and about four pages of them in the St Helens one...)

As an aside I'm quite surprised at that, as almost all places ending in "hurst" 
in the UK are south of the M4 and east of two degrees west.

Nick


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Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

2012-10-08 Thread Richard Fairhurst
Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> As an aside I'm quite surprised at that, as almost all places ending 
> in "hurst" in the UK are south of the M4 and east of two degrees west.

That sort of factoid is surely what OpenStreetMap was invented for. :)

The origin of Fairhursts is quite starkly regional, though:
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/name-origin?surname=fairhurst

cheers
Richard





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Re: [Talk-GB] Garmin eTrex 30 - just reduced on amazon

2012-10-08 Thread Ed Loach
Peter wrote:

> Garmin suggested retail price £229.99
> Amazon had it at £178 until yesterday
> 
> today..
> Garmin eTrex 30 Outdoor Handheld GPS Unit £157.49

Thanks Peter. I've been humming and hahing (however it is spelled)
for ages about whether to get one or not. So I now have, via the
Amazon link here:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Merchandise#Amazon
and added a bike mount to the order (self-justified by the price
reduction, so effectively a freebie).

Ed


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Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

2012-10-08 Thread Steve Chilton
Richard

Another version (from CASA @UCL):
http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map.aspx?name=FAIRHURST&year=1998&altyear=1881&country=GB&type=name

Cheers
Steve

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Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> As an aside I'm quite surprised at that, as almost all places ending 
> in "hurst" in the UK are south of the M4 and east of two degrees west.

That sort of factoid is surely what OpenStreetMap was invented for. :)

The origin of Fairhursts is quite starkly regional, though:
http://www.ancestry.co.uk/name-origin?surname=fairhurst

cheers
Richard





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Re: [Talk-GB] Garmin eTrex 30 - just reduced on amazon

2012-10-08 Thread Kevin Peat
On Oct 8, 2012 3:15 PM, "Ed Loach"  wrote:
> > today..
> > Garmin eTrex 30 Outdoor Handheld GPS Unit £157.49
>
> Thanks Peter. I've been humming and hahing (however it is spelled)
> for ages about whether to get one or not. So I now have, via the
> Amazon link here:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Merchandise#Amazon
> and added a bike mount to the order (self-justified by the price
> reduction, so effectively a freebie).

I have owned a "20" for quite a while and subjectively the accuracy seems
better than the hcx I had before. Not sure if that is due to the glonass
support or just a more modern chipset. The interface hasn't improved much,
if at all.  I preferred the cycling of pages on the older models to the
back button used on the new ones. My hcx bike mount had an irritating
rattle which the new one doesn't have so I guess that is an improvement.

Kevin
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Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre

2012-10-08 Thread Andy Robinson
Neat site but seems somewhat inaccurate for very low number surnames.

Cheers
Andy

> -Original Message-
> From: Steve Chilton [mailto:s.l.chil...@mdx.ac.uk]
> Sent: 08 October 2012 15:40
> To: Richard Fairhurst; talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre
> 
> Richard
> 
> Another version (from CASA @UCL):
> http://gbnames.publicprofiler.org/Map.aspx?name=FAIRHURST&year=1998
> &altyear=1881&country=GB&type=name
> 
> Cheers
> Steve
> 
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> Sent: 08 October 2012 14:26
> To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
> Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Bomb dropped on St Helens Town Centre
> 
> Nick Whitelegg wrote:
> > As an aside I'm quite surprised at that, as almost all places ending
> > in "hurst" in the UK are south of the M4 and east of two degrees west.
> 
> That sort of factoid is surely what OpenStreetMap was invented for. :)
> 
> The origin of Fairhursts is quite starkly regional, though:
> http://www.ancestry.co.uk/name-origin?surname=fairhurst
> 
> cheers
> Richard
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