[Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
No mention of OSM in this piece:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960
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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Kevin Peat
On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 No mention of OSM in this piece:

 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960


Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making
hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee
suicide stories to emerge.

It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to even sort
out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add buildings, etc.
Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself.

Kevin
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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Tom Chance
You can always call the BBC up and ask if they would like a quote to give
the piece balance. The Beeb love their balance, they get nervous if you
suggest a piece lacks balance.

So you'd suggest that the article includes a quote from critics who point
out that the data is only available to Google, unlike OSM, blah.

I don't have the number for the technology news desk, but the number for
the web site general newsdesk used to be 0207 765 1065 and if you get
through to any part of the news operation and ask for the web site
technology desk they should put you through.

Not that we have a press officer but Harry has done good work in the past
putting out press releases :-)

Tom


On 11 April 2013 10:39, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu wrote:



 On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

 No mention of OSM in this piece:

 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960


 Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they are making
 hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus sweatshop / employee
 suicide stories to emerge.

 It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to even sort
 out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add buildings, etc.
 Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself.

 Kevin


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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Chris Hill
I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may 
add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and 
acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing 
crowd-serfing https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168


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On 11/04/13 11:03, Tom Chance wrote:
You can always call the BBC up and ask if they would like a quote to 
give the piece balance. The Beeb love their balance, they get nervous 
if you suggest a piece lacks balance.


So you'd suggest that the article includes a quote from critics who 
point out that the data is only available to Google, unlike OSM, blah.


I don't have the number for the technology news desk, but the number 
for the web site general newsdesk used to be 0207 765 1065 and if you 
get through to any part of the news operation and ask for the web site 
technology desk they should put you through.


Not that we have a press officer but Harry has done good work in the 
past putting out press releases :-)


Tom


On 11 April 2013 10:39, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu mailto:k...@k3v.eu wrote:



On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
mailto:a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:

No mention of OSM in this piece:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960



Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they
are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus
sweatshop / employee suicide stories to emerge.

It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to
even sort out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add
buildings, etc. Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself.

Kevin





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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Chris Hill

Sorry, that should, of course, been the closed nature of Google data.

On 11/04/13 12:49, Chris Hill wrote:
I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he 
may add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and 
acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing 
crowd-serfing https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168





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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Gregory
I've noticed this page has a description of the difference:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Google_map_maker


On 11 April 2013 12:51, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:

 Sorry, that should, of course, been the closed nature of Google data.


 On 11/04/13 12:49, Chris Hill wrote:

 I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may
 add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and
 acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing
 crowd-serfing 
 https://twitter.com/richardf/**status/296244090415239168https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168



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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Andy Mabbett
Great. I did approach him on Twitter; he's @LeoKelion, but hasn't replied.
On Apr 11, 2013 12:49 PM, Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:

 I've just had an email from Leo, who wrote the piece and it seems he may
 add to it including a reference to the closed nature of OSM and
 acknowledging OSM. I also pointed him to RichardF's tweet describing
 crowd-serfing 
 https://twitter.com/richardf/**status/296244090415239168https://twitter.com/richardf/status/296244090415239168

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 On 11/04/13 11:03, Tom Chance wrote:

 You can always call the BBC up and ask if they would like a quote to give
 the piece balance. The Beeb love their balance, they get nervous if you
 suggest a piece lacks balance.

 So you'd suggest that the article includes a quote from critics who point
 out that the data is only available to Google, unlike OSM, blah.

 I don't have the number for the technology news desk, but the number for
 the web site general newsdesk used to be 0207 765 1065 and if you get
 through to any part of the news operation and ask for the web site
 technology desk they should put you through.

 Not that we have a press officer but Harry has done good work in the past
 putting out press releases :-)

 Tom


 On 11 April 2013 10:39, Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu mailto:k...@k3v.eu wrote:



 On 11 April 2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 mailto:andy@pigsonthewing.**org.uk a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk
 wrote:

 No mention of OSM in this piece:

 
 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/**technology-22099960http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960



 Google has been getting a free pass from the media but now they
 are making hardware that may change, waiting for the Nexus
 sweatshop / employee suicide stories to emerge.

 It will be interesting to see if they get enough contributors to
 even sort out the mess that gmaps poi's are in let alone to add
 buildings, etc. Outside of a few urban centres I don't see it myself.

 Kevin




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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Matt Williams
In case people haven't noticed, the article has been updated with a quote
from Chris about OSM.

Matt

On 11 April 2013 14:44, Grant Slater openstreet...@firefishy.com wrote:

 On 11 April 2013 14:14, Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk wrote:
 
  Great. I did approach him on Twitter; he's @LeoKelion, but hasn't
 replied.
 

 And a few others :-)

 https://twitter.com/firefishy1/status/322285311587655680
 https://twitter.com/firefishy1/status/322286200058687488
 https://twitter.com/smsm1/status/322286570034044928
 https://twitter.com/richardf/status/322286644499722240
 https://twitter.com/GeorgeCredland/status/322288544850776064
 https://twitter.com/rfsql/status/322318091382030336
 https://twitter.com/gregorymarler/status/322327967718068224

 Pre-empt
 https://twitter.com/firefishy1/status/322313548787249152
 https://twitter.com/firefishy1/status/322313855634120705

 / Grant

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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Dave F.

On 11/04/2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett wrote:


No mention of OSM in this piece:

http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960



A couple of quotes from Chris has now been added, however it still 
disappointing it reads like an advert  even an instruction manual.


Dave F.

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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Tom Chance
On 11 April 2013 14:53, Matt Williams li...@milliams.com wrote:

 In case people haven't noticed, the article has been updated with a quote
 from Chris about OSM.


Well done!

Tom


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Re: [Talk-GB] Taginfo Golf Tags

2013-04-11 Thread Dave F.

Thanks to Ed  John. I really like the white lines pitch markings.

Dave F.

On 11/04/2013 02:38, John Baker wrote:



The French OSM site has worldwide mapnik rendering of golf courses and 
nifty sports pitches mapped too.


http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/?zoom=16lat=48.72648lon=2.60806layers=B0

I imagine they will be migrated to osm.org when cartoCSS eventually 
goes live.



Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2013 01:35:41 +0100
From: dave...@madasafish.com
To: openstreetmapcraigmil...@yahoo.co.uk
CC: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Taginfo Golf Tags

On 05/04/2013 15:04, Bob Kerr wrote:

Hi,

I have been looking at TagInfo for  tags with golf=

There are a number of tags which are golf=Tee instead of golf=tee.
Is there any easy way that I find out where these tags are located
so that I can correct them.


Hi Again Bob

Just discovered in Taginfo there's a similar, but quicker site to the 
one I suggested earlier. In the top right of the screen there's an 
icon next to where it says XPI  JOSM (looks a bit like a 3 spoked 
steering wheel). Clicking on it takes you to another site. Left hand 
side you can amend the key  value then click Run.


BTW, are there any renderings that show golf course details like tees, 
bunkers, greens etc? It's a shame mapnik doesn't.


Cheers
Dave F.

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Re: [Talk-GB] BBC News - Google Map Maker edit tools extended to cover the UK

2013-04-11 Thread Borbus
On 11/04/13 14:59, Dave F. wrote:
 On 11/04/2013 08:12, Andy Mabbett wrote:

 No mention of OSM in this piece:

 http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-22099960

 
 A couple of quotes from Chris has now been added, however it still 
 disappointing it reads like an advert  even an instruction manual.

Indeed, and the bit about OSM is found in the bottom 3/4 of the article
which, let's be honest, most people will not see.

The BBC News technology section is usually just an advert for big tech
companies like Apple, Google and Microsoft.  Terrible really.

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