Re: [Talk-GB] Spread the OSM message (Steve Chilton)
Hi Steve, I'll spread the word locally with the OSM community about SoC event in Glasgow and see if anyone can give a presentation. I like to think a lot of the map data is 'hidden' in Glasgow. What we miss in buildings etc we make up for in bus routes, cycle parking and 3D tags :-P But yes, a mapping party is always appreciated! There's a fair few notes on the map just around the university which could make a nice break for attendees to look at? But if you want to pick an area and go map - that would be great. Put it on the wiki and get the local mappers can support. BTW There is a Glasgow OSM meetup is on the 18th August: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Scotland#Welcome Thanks, Tim > From: talk-gb-requ...@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Talk-GB Digest, Vol 89, Issue 15 > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Date: Thu, 13 Feb 2014 12:00:02 + > > Send Talk-GB mailing list submissions to > talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > talk-gb-requ...@openstreetmap.org > > You can reach the person managing the list at > talk-gb-ow...@openstreetmap.org > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > than "Re: Contents of Talk-GB digest..." > > > Today's Topics: > >1. Re: name=Flooding (jonathan) >2. Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th (Dan S) >3. Re: Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th (Robert Scott) >4. Re: name=Flooding (Shaun McDonald) >5. Spread the OSM message (Steve Chilton) > > > -- > > Message: 1 > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:25:48 + > From: jonathan > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Cc: Kate Chapman > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] name=Flooding > Message-ID: <52fb684c@bigfatfrog67.me> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1; format=flowed > > I agree it isn't, however, considering the current conditions some parts > of the country are experiencing, the continuing weather forecasts of > more to come and the fact that the ground water is so high that this > water won't be going anywhere soon, then perhaps we should apply some > tagging to areas that people have kindly already mapped. Maybe highways > should be marked as impassable? The Highways Agency etc are producing > such lists. > > We would need to revisit these areas to remove it as they subside but > this information is invaluable to many people, agencies, charities, gov > departments etc. > > There's also a historical benefit having areas mapped as having > previously flooded, either as live ways tagged accordingly or as old > deleted ways that nevertheless are still accessible. > > If the HOT team had been activated for this then we would be doing this > sort of thing just as has been done in many other parts of the World. > > I'm beginning to think we are not stepping up to provide this unique > mapping requirement that no other mapping service is providing. > > Jonathan > > http://bigfatfrog67.me > > On 10/02/2014 17:29, Steve Doerr wrote: > > Is this an appropriate use of the name tag? > > > > http://nominatim.openstreetmap.org/search.php?q=Flooding%2C+Burrowbridge > > > > Steve > > > > ___ > > Talk-GB mailing list > > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > > > > > > -- > > Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 12:46:08 + > From: Dan S > To: Talk GB > Subject: [Talk-GB] Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th > Message-ID: > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 > > Hi all - > > Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th, possibly interesting to people here: > http://urbandatahack.com/ > They have some specific datasets to work with, not osm but geo. > > (Is it appropriate to post this kind of thing on talk-gb ? I'm not > associated with the event, but just wondering if this kind of thing is > interest to this list.) > > Best > Dan > > > > -- > > Message: 3 > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 13:12:17 + > From: Robert Scott > To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Urban Data Hack, London, Feb 15th/16th > Message-ID: <201402121312.17401.li...@humanleg.org.uk> > Content-Type: Text/Plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > On Wednesday 12 February 2014, Dan S wrote: > > (Is it appropriate to post this kind of thing on talk-gb ? I'm not > > associated with the event, but just wondering if this kind of thing is > > interest to this list.) > > I would say absolutely. > > > robert. > > > > -- > > Message: 4 > Date: Wed, 12 Feb 2014 20:25:27 + > From: Shaun McDonald > To: jonathan > Cc: Kate Chapman , Talk GB > > Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] name=Flooding > Message-ID: <277af5a4-2311-
Re: [Talk-GB] BIS report on open national address data
Dan S wrote: Nice to see the recommendation. I guess from an OSM point of view, one of the most important responses to make would be to ensure that the basic free product is truly OGL, free of any more restricted content (e.g. OSOGL) that could hold back beneficial uses of the data? Not read in detail, but 'page 83' sums it up for me ... all of the work relating to an address is done by the local council who input it to the LLPG and from there it is archived to the NLPG. The only involvement that Royal Mail have is in creating a new postcode if one does not already exist. Certainly OS have no input creating the raw data, only in later displaying the information provided by the plans created as part of the planning process. Cost of a planning application covers the bulk of the expence? and a postcode is simply a tag the bulk of which is defined by the adjacent existing postcodes. As long as we can in future add the NLPG location reference ... which includes locations that do not physically have postal deliveries! ... then what information that is available via the NLPG can then simply be accessed? Nothing really needed otherwise except OSM could provide the fine detail of an NLPG reference where that is not currently even recorded in the LLPG ... -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] London Hack Weekend - Mar 8 & 9
Hi Matt, Wikimedia UK are going to post about this on our blog to get a few more people involved for you. It should pop up at https://blog.wikimedia.org.uk/shortly. Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* On 11 February 2014 22:22, Matt Amos wrote: > we're having a hack weekend on the 8th and 9th March, graciously > hosted by AOL / MapQuest at their offices in central London. it would > be great to see you there! > > full details are available on the wiki page [1], and there's also an > event on Lanyrd [2]. please sign up to at least one of these if you > are planning to attend, both so that we're able to judge the amount of > power sockets we'll need, and for fire safety / security. > > in addition, we'll be socialising in the pub on the Friday and > Saturday evenings - if hacking isn't your thing, we'd be very happy to > see you there. venues TBA at the moment, and suggestions welcome. > > cheers, > > matt > > [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/London_Hack_Weekend_Mar_2014 > [2] http://lanyrd.com/2014/osmhack/ > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BIS report on open national address data
Nice to see the recommendation. I guess from an OSM point of view, one of the most important responses to make would be to ensure that the basic free product is truly OGL, free of any more restricted content (e.g. OSOGL) that could hold back beneficial uses of the data? Dan 2014-02-13 13:35 GMT+00:00 Andrew Gray : > Spotted this today and thought it would be interesting from an OSM > perspective: > > https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/an-open-national-address-gazetteer > > "There have been long standing calls for the government to treat > address data as a national asset that is free to use and re-use. > People argue that the wider economic and social benefits are likely to > far outweigh the costs, while recognising that there are quality, > maintenance, commercial, legal and financial issues to be resolved." > > "This review analyses current products and considers of user > requirements and options for open addresses. It is based on open data > principles that public information should be accessible and freely > available to the widest number of government and non-government > organisations. It looks at current address products and market > structures. The review also considers the potential for efficiencies > and cost savings in current practice." > > Executive summary: > > "UK society relies heavily on address data and current products have > helped greatly to create benefit. The review has determined that Open > usage would result in substantial and valuable growth among new user > types and with even greater community benefit. The recommendation is > that a basic address product should be free to all users at the point > of use under the Open Government Licence while premium versions would > still be sold, leaving current production and maintenance roles much > as they are today." > > They're looking for comments and responses. > > -- > - Andrew Gray > andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] BIS report on open national address data
Interesting, and a big document. Just loved this example on the last page: "GRIAMACHARRY, KINBRACE, KW11 6UB", the place furthest from its postcode centroid (8 km) Yesterday, the Scottish Affairs Select Committee took evidence relating to Land Reform: but there was plenty of interesting and passionate advocacy for open data relating to addresses, cadastral parcels etc: http://www.parliament.uk/business/committees/committees-a-z/commons-select/scottish-affairs-committee/news/land-reform-four/(on UK Parliament TV somewhere too). On 13 February 2014 13:35, Andrew Gray wrote: > Spotted this today and thought it would be interesting from an OSM > perspective: > > > https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/an-open-national-address-gazetteer > > "There have been long standing calls for the government to treat > address data as a national asset that is free to use and re-use. > People argue that the wider economic and social benefits are likely to > far outweigh the costs, while recognising that there are quality, > maintenance, commercial, legal and financial issues to be resolved." > > "This review analyses current products and considers of user > requirements and options for open addresses. It is based on open data > principles that public information should be accessible and freely > available to the widest number of government and non-government > organisations. It looks at current address products and market > structures. The review also considers the potential for efficiencies > and cost savings in current practice." > > Executive summary: > > "UK society relies heavily on address data and current products have > helped greatly to create benefit. The review has determined that Open > usage would result in substantial and valuable growth among new user > types and with even greater community benefit. The recommendation is > that a basic address product should be free to all users at the point > of use under the Open Government Licence while premium versions would > still be sold, leaving current production and maintenance roles much > as they are today." > > They're looking for comments and responses. > > -- > - Andrew Gray > andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] BIS report on open national address data
Spotted this today and thought it would be interesting from an OSM perspective: https://www.gov.uk/government/publications/an-open-national-address-gazetteer "There have been long standing calls for the government to treat address data as a national asset that is free to use and re-use. People argue that the wider economic and social benefits are likely to far outweigh the costs, while recognising that there are quality, maintenance, commercial, legal and financial issues to be resolved." "This review analyses current products and considers of user requirements and options for open addresses. It is based on open data principles that public information should be accessible and freely available to the widest number of government and non-government organisations. It looks at current address products and market structures. The review also considers the potential for efficiencies and cost savings in current practice." Executive summary: "UK society relies heavily on address data and current products have helped greatly to create benefit. The review has determined that Open usage would result in substantial and valuable growth among new user types and with even greater community benefit. The recommendation is that a basic address product should be free to all users at the point of use under the Open Government Licence while premium versions would still be sold, leaving current production and maintenance roles much as they are today." They're looking for comments and responses. -- - Andrew Gray andrew.g...@dunelm.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Wikimania London
All, Wikipedia's global conference is in London this year, in August - see http://wikimania2014.wikimedia.org/wiki/Main_Page. I wondered if anyone was considering going, or submitting a talk on behalf of OSM? It may seem like a "Wikipedia-centric" event, but this year there'll be a lot of people (c. 4,000) attending and it'd be great to get some input from the OSM community (of whom I consider myself a part!) All the best, Richard Symonds Wikimedia UK 0207 065 0992 Wikimedia UK is a Company Limited by Guarantee registered in England and Wales, Registered No. 6741827. Registered Charity No.1144513. Registered Office 4th Floor, Development House, 56-64 Leonard Street, London EC2A 4LT. United Kingdom. Wikimedia UK is the UK chapter of a global Wikimedia movement. The Wikimedia projects are run by the Wikimedia Foundation (who operate Wikipedia, amongst other projects). *Wikimedia UK is an independent non-profit charity with no legal control over Wikipedia nor responsibility for its contents.* ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Spread the OSM message
OSMers, I would really like to showcase good work folk are doing with OSM data/maps at the Society of Cartographers conference. Would anyone like to pitch a presentation at the joint SoC/ICA conference in Glasgow this September. The following is the formal call for papers. Feel free to contact me if you wish to discuss possibilities. Also, Central Glasgow looks to be pretty well mapped, but some of the outlying areas could use some map-love. So, a mapping party could be incorporated or butted-up up to the conference if anyone fancies working with me on that. CALL FOR PAPERS: The 50th Society of Cartographers conference takes place from 31 Aug-2 Sept 2014 at the University of Glasgow. The afternoon session on Tuesday 2 Sept is to be a joint one, with the ICA Commission in Neocartography [http://neocartography.icaci.org/] joining with the SoC for the occasion. If you would like to offer a presentation as part of the programme at this event, please email a title and a 200 word abstract to ste...@mdx.ac.uk by Fri March 14th. The major themes of the session are: * Innovation in proprietary online mapping systems * Innovation with open source mapping services * Interesting map designs in the new milleau * Designing maps for mobile devices * Mapping from social media and crowdsourced data The programme committee will review proposals, and decisions relayed to all who have submitted by Fri 11 April. http://www.soc.org.uk/soc2014/program.html Cheers Steve Steve Chilton FSEDA, Teaching Fellow Lead Academic Developer Centre for Academic Practice Enhancement Middlesex University phone: 020 8411 5355 email: ste...@mdx.ac.uk Profile: http://www.middlesex.wikispaces.net/user/view/steve8 Blog: http://itsahill.wordpress.com/ Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/ Chair of ICA Neocartography Commission: http://neocartography.icaci.org/ --- Please note that Middlesex University's preferred way of receiving all correspondence is via email in line with our Environmental Policy. All incoming post to Middlesex University is opened and scanned by our digital document handler, CDS, and then emailed to the recipient. If you do not want your correspondence to Middlesex University processed in this way please email the recipient directly. Parcels, couriered items and recorded delivery items will not be opened or scanned by CDS. There are items which are "exceptions" which will be opened by CDS but will not be scanned a full list of these can be obtained by contacting the University. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
