Re: [Talk-GB] Fiction

[Dave F.]

Look in the wiki under key:name.

On 22/03/2015 23:31, Pmailkeey . wrote:
On 22 March 2015 at 21:44, Tom Hughes > wrote:


On 22/03/15 21:30, Pmailkeey . wrote:

Could really do with ahighway
=fictitious
 tag
for roads
with fictional names howsoever caused. I've just found
reference in an
official publication to a fictional streetname - and have
found use of
that name in other official circumstances - despite the street in
question having a completely different name !


Well highway=fictitious would imply the road is fictitious, not
the name.

I suspect not:name= is what you want - that is what we normally
use to record names erroneously asserted in official sources.

Tom

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Well, you could have fictitious highways - places you can drive along 
that aren't highways !
But yes, I was more thinking of name so 'fictitious name' within a 
highway perhaps would be better.


The problem with not:name is that people may legitimately be calling 
the road that name even though it's not called that name. Not:name is 
fine when it's an error.



On 22 March 2015 at 22:02, Andrew Black > wrote:


Can you give an example where it might be useful.


I'm aware of "The Mousetrap" which is well-known locally but is 
certainly not the correct name for the road - but as I'm not aware of 
the correct name - if it even has one - so "The Mousetrap" has gone in 
under 'name'. We have also "Frying Pan" (from a murder with the said 
implement many years ago) And we also have "Anfield Road" which has 
been attached to the side of a building as a 'life-size' sticky label 
on a 'non-road'.


I'm trying to think is there an 'alt:name' ? but then, it still 
appears as being official. It's more than a slang name - if the 
authorities are using it in error.


Maybe 'unofficial name' - even if officially used !

How about 'AKA' as an attribute ? :)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Fiction

[Pmailkeey .]

On 22 March 2015 at 22:02, Andrew Black  wrote:

> Can you give an example where it might be useful.
>
>
>
Yeah - a road that's been driven on that doesn't exist -  like this morning
when my neighbour drove into our back yard without opening the gates!
Fortunately he managed to stop before hitting my brother's car!

(a case of a manual driver in an automatic - again)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Fiction

[Pmailkeey .]

On 22 March 2015 at 21:44, Tom Hughes  wrote:

> On 22/03/15 21:30, Pmailkeey . wrote:
>
>> Could really do with ahighway
>> =fictitious
>>  tag for roads
>> with fictional names howsoever caused. I've just found reference in an
>> official publication to a fictional streetname - and have found use of
>> that name in other official circumstances - despite the street in
>> question having a completely different name !
>>
>
> Well highway=fictitious would imply the road is fictitious, not the name.
>
> I suspect not:name= is what you want - that is what we normally use to
> record names erroneously asserted in official sources.
>
> Tom
>
> --
> Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu)
> http://compton.nu/
>

Well, you could have fictitious highways - places you can drive along that
aren't highways !
But yes, I was more thinking of name so 'fictitious name' within a highway
perhaps would be better.

The problem with not:name is that people may legitimately be calling the
road that name even though it's not called that name. Not:name is fine when
it's an error.


On 22 March 2015 at 22:02, Andrew Black  wrote:

> Can you give an example where it might be useful.
>
>
> I'm aware of "The Mousetrap" which is well-known locally but is certainly
not the correct name for the road - but as I'm not aware of the correct
name - if it even has one - so "The Mousetrap" has gone in under 'name'. We
have also "Frying Pan" (from a murder with the said implement many years
ago) And we also have "Anfield Road" which has been attached to the side of
a building as a 'life-size' sticky label on a 'non-road'.

I'm trying to think is there an 'alt:name' ? but then, it still appears as
being official. It's more than a slang name - if the authorities are using
it in error.

Maybe 'unofficial name' - even if officially used !

How about 'AKA' as an attribute ? :)


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Re: [Talk-GB] Fiction

[Tom Hughes]

On 22/03/15 21:30, Pmailkeey . wrote:

Could really do with ahighway
=fictitious
 tag for roads
with fictional names howsoever caused. I've just found reference in an
official publication to a fictional streetname - and have found use of
that name in other official circumstances - despite the street in
question having a completely different name !


Well highway=fictitious would imply the road is fictitious, not the name.

I suspect not:name= is what you want - that is what we normally use to 
record names erroneously asserted in official sources.


Tom

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[Talk-GB] Seasonal greetings

[Pmailkeey .]

I see spring has arrived and the saplings are now bushy trees with brown
trunks.

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[Talk-GB] Fiction

[Pmailkeey .]

Could really do with a highway
=fictitious
 tag for roads with
fictional names howsoever caused. I've just found reference in an official
publication to a fictional streetname - and have found use of that name in
other official circumstances - despite the street in question having a
completely different name !


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Re: [Talk-GB] state of the map 2015

[Jo Walsh]

On Sun, Mar 22, 2015, at 06:17 PM, Bob wrote:
> Does anyone have any idea why this was cancelled and why other bidders
> arn't taking over.

I'm sure i read a blog or perhaps diary entry with a lot more detail
than in
https://blog.openstreetmap.org/2015/02/25/openstreetmap-events-in-2015/
but can't find it,g

The gist of the the matter as i recall it was that the Venice bid was
preferred but the dates were not; SotM US already had dates too close.
and the best alternative dates were beset by an International Exposition
of Something, and finding accomodation was going to be impossible. And
by the time all this was realised it was too late it was too late for
the small, inexperienced WG to figure out a replacement path. 

So i guess some people will be going to SotM US instead and it probably
will be the biggest ever sotm but supposedly a regional one. Not sure
about that, i'd have been much more likely to bust a gut to get there if
it had been the main sotm, but not a -us spinout with parochial
concerns...


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[Talk-GB] state of the map 2015

[Bob]

Does anyone have any idea why this was cancelled and why other bidders arn't 
taking over.

cheers bob



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Re: [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

[Andy Mabbett]

On 22 March 2015 at 16:20, Dan S  wrote:

> It is a really nice service. But I'm puzzled why you'd want it on the
> wiki?

So that anyone can edit it, of course.

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Re: [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

[Dan S]

2015-03-22 15:54 GMT+00:00 Andy Mabbett :
> On 21 March 2015 at 21:18, Manfred A. Reiter  wrote:
>
>> The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 243, is now available online in
>> English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
>> openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu
>
> This is an excellent serve, thank you.
>
> Might I suggest compiling and archiving, it on the OSM Wiki? We could
> then use a script to distribute it to the talk pages of interested
> mappers.

It is a really nice service. But I'm puzzled why you'd want it on the
wiki? I can't think of an advantage, so there must be something I've
missed. The weekly already provides RSS feeds in multiple languages
(wow, great!) as well as email subscription, so it's easy for
interested people to keep track of it. Plus the weekly website has a
nice web design to suit its purpose.

> and of course the scripts used should be open source.

Usually, it's for the author of the script to decide if the script is
open source.

Best
Dan

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Re: [Talk-GB] weeklyOSM 243 now in English

[Andy Mabbett]

On 21 March 2015 at 21:18, Manfred A. Reiter  wrote:

> The weekly round-up of OSM news, issue # 243, is now available online in
> English, giving as always a summary of all things happening in the
> openstreetmap world: http://www.weeklyosm.eu

This is an excellent serve, thank you.

Might I suggest compiling and archiving, it on the OSM Wiki? We could
then use a script to distribute it to the talk pages of interested
mappers.

Wikipedia and Wikidata do this; for example:

   https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia:Wikipedia_Signpost

   https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:Status_updates/Next

and of course the scripts used should be open source.

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