Re: [Talk-GB] Retain existing style sheets for UK server
On 08/08/2015 23:24, Matthijs Melissen wrote: On 8 August 2015 at 22:55, Lester Caine wrote: What is the best way of cloning the existing style setup for a UK tile server? Some useful resources: https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04/ and (apologies for stating the bleeding obvious) https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/INSTALL.md Not tried it, but the version requirements in there don't seem to obviously clash with Ubuntu 14.04. "manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04" uses Mapbox's "OSM Bright". Cheers, Andy ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Retain existing style sheets for UK server
On 09/08/15 12:59, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: > > On 08/08/2015 23:24, Matthijs Melissen wrote: >> On 8 August 2015 at 22:55, Lester Caine wrote: >>> What is the best way of cloning the existing style setup for a UK tile >>> server? >> Some useful resources: >> >> https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04/ > > and (apologies for stating the bleeding obvious) > > https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/INSTALL.md > > Not tried it, but the version requirements in there don't seem to > obviously clash with Ubuntu 14.04. > "manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04" uses Mapbox's "OSM Bright". There are some advantages to windows taking SO long to download updates ... one can get on with other work while waiting :) I was somewhere there 2 years ago ... just working through http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/Local+Tile+Server+Setup+Take+2 to update it to a more current setup and got as far as 'state.txt' ... I had the replicate working up until middle of last year so it should not take long to restore that. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Odd highway=primary_link changes in gyratory systems
Noticed some changes that I think odd that appear to derive from mapper urViator changing highway= primary to primary_link in a gyratory system in Strood. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33203852 As I understand the _link versions, these are for short parts of junction systems rather than substantial chunks of road in the sort of gyratory systems that traffic engineers surround town centres with. What's evident on the standard rendering is the odd overlaying on the _link roads of joining roads. I'd have thought that having joining roads was pretty much a sign that _link was not appropriate. What do people think? Paul Bivand (paulbiv) ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd highway=primary_link changes in gyratory systems
Rendering _links is a pain, and the default rendering isn't brilliant at it (it renders all links under all non-links). So I'd definitely err on the side of not using _links unless they are adding some real information. A good use of _links is to distinguish between the main roads continuing through at speed and the links between the main roads. If you don't have flyovers/underpasses, _links aren't really adding anything (and just make life hard for the data consumer). Some people seem to use _links when a road divides in two approaching a junction. This also causes problems, and I can't really see what value it is adding. Using _links on a simple roundabout is unusual, and unhelpful. What value is it adding? Richard On Sun, Aug 9, 2015 at 2:40 PM, Paul Bivand wrote: > Noticed some changes that I think odd that appear to derive from mapper > urViator changing highway= primary to primary_link in a gyratory system in > Strood. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33203852 > > > As I understand the _link versions, these are for short parts of junction > systems rather than substantial chunks of road in the sort of gyratory > systems > that traffic engineers surround town centres with. > > What's evident on the standard rendering is the odd overlaying on the _link > roads of joining roads. I'd have thought that having joining roads was > pretty > much a sign that _link was not appropriate. > > What do people think? > > Paul Bivand (paulbiv) > > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd highway=primary_link changes in gyratory systems
On 09/08/15 14:57, Richard Mann wrote: Using _links on a simple roundabout is unusual, and unhelpful Gyratory systems aren't roundabouts. They may be traffic circles, but I'm not sure that is really true here, either. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd highway=primary_link changes in gyratory systems
On 09/08/15 14:40, Paul Bivand wrote: Noticed some changes that I think odd that appear to derive from mapper urViator changing highway= primary to primary_link in a gyratory system in Strood. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33203852 As I understand the _link versions, these are for short parts of junction systems rather than substantial chunks of road in the sort of gyratory systems that traffic engineers surround town centres with. What's evident on the standard rendering is the odd overlaying on the _link roads of joining roads. I'd have thought that having joining roads was pretty much a sign that _link was not appropriate. What do people think? All those roads would be primary to me. I've seen this elsewhere. When I asked the mapper he said that he thought is was a link road, so that would be a primary_link. It might also just be finger trouble. Have you made contact? -- Cheers, Chris user: chillly ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Odd highway=primary_link changes in gyratory systems
Looks like urViator has changed them back. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33222199 Thanks, urViator. Paul Bivand (paulbiv) On Sunday 09 Aug 2015 14:40:19 Paul Bivand wrote: > Noticed some changes that I think odd that appear to derive from mapper > urViator changing highway= primary to primary_link in a gyratory system in > Strood. http://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/33203852 > > > As I understand the _link versions, these are for short parts of junction > systems rather than substantial chunks of road in the sort of gyratory > systems that traffic engineers surround town centres with. > > What's evident on the standard rendering is the odd overlaying on the _link > roads of joining roads. I'd have thought that having joining roads was > pretty much a sign that _link was not appropriate. > > What do people think? > > Paul Bivand (paulbiv) > > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Retain existing style sheets for UK server
On 09/08/15 14:17, Lester Caine wrote: > On 09/08/15 12:59, ajt1...@gmail.com wrote: >> >> On 08/08/2015 23:24, Matthijs Melissen wrote: >>> On 8 August 2015 at 22:55, Lester Caine wrote: What is the best way of cloning the existing style setup for a UK tile server? >>> Some useful resources: >>> >>> https://switch2osm.org/serving-tiles/manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04/ >> >> and (apologies for stating the bleeding obvious) >> >> https://github.com/gravitystorm/openstreetmap-carto/blob/master/INSTALL.md >> >> Not tried it, but the version requirements in there don't seem to >> obviously clash with Ubuntu 14.04. >> "manually-building-a-tile-server-14-04" uses Mapbox's "OSM Bright". > > There are some advantages to windows taking SO long to download > updates ... one can get on with other work while waiting :) > > I was somewhere there 2 years ago ... just working through > http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/Local+Tile+Server+Setup+Take+2 to update it to a > more current setup and got as far as 'state.txt' ... > I had the replicate working up until middle of last year so it should > not take long to restore that. OK Have a working osmosis/replication setup which is currently running an hourly sync of my 'British Isles' database. Mapnik is being somewhat less helpful, but since ideally I want an nginx based server, https://github.com/osmfj/tileman may be a better starting point anyway. That has not seen much activity this year though, so is it still being used on the osm.jp? -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
