Re: [Talk-GB] Restoring a usable map service!
Lester, In the short term, would substituting http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/ solve your rendering problems? Steve On 31/10/2015 02:09, Lester Caine wrote: OK ... what do we need to do to get a working UK map again? Bing and Google are almost useless, and the new indistinguishable rendering primary routes and motorways on OSM once everything finally re-renders are going to be useless as well. I've just spent another couple of hours trying to remember where I got to with the machine I've been trying to build here to provide just the UK and Ireland, but I'm going to have to go back to first principals and ignore the Nginx layer and go back to slow old Apache for the tile cache :( I know why the current tile servers can't handle more than one style, and in my book THAT was the first problem that needed fixing rather than forcing a complete new style sheet with no option to retain the current style in parallel. So what do we need to do to get a UK friendly service working? I would like to throw into the mix that it would make sense to me if a complete new rendering service also handled historic mapping as well which should be relatively easy to do if confined to just the UK, but I think we may need to be open to rendering more than just the UK? It's bad enough at the moment tying to cope with W10 being rammed into my clients systems and breaking perfectly good operational hardware, android apps changing various operating procedures in illogical ways, and the various 'browser improvements' resulting in even more legacy sites no longer working without also having to start reworking every map used across my client base. OSM is the only source that has much of the detail that I need to show, and retaining blue ad green road links is essential in my book ... and one of the reasons I started even developing with OSM. --- This email has been checked for viruses by Avast antivirus software. https://www.avast.com/antivirus ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Restoring a usable map service!
On 31/10/15 02:21, Steve Doerr wrote: > Lester, > > In the short term, would substituting http://tile.openstreetmap.fr/ > solve your rendering problems? Interesting thought ... that actually solves one of the todo items on my own style sheet tweaks in that the French version actually shows the county boundaries a lot clearer, but switching to a large view which has French attributions and overlays may simply add to the confusion :( Having sold clients on the idea that we can show all the right parking and access around their premises on a UK style map, many have been helping by providing finer detail and corrections in their areas. I KNOW the phone will be ringing Monday if not before. In many of their areas Google and Bing are simply white blanks! OK ... where do I get a copy of the osmfr layer style sheet :) That is rendering the area around here a lot nicer than the 'defa...@osm.org' ... everything is a lot crisper. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Restoring a usable map service!
OK ... what do we need to do to get a working UK map again? Bing and Google are almost useless, and the new indistinguishable rendering primary routes and motorways on OSM once everything finally re-renders are going to be useless as well. I've just spent another couple of hours trying to remember where I got to with the machine I've been trying to build here to provide just the UK and Ireland, but I'm going to have to go back to first principals and ignore the Nginx layer and go back to slow old Apache for the tile cache :( I know why the current tile servers can't handle more than one style, and in my book THAT was the first problem that needed fixing rather than forcing a complete new style sheet with no option to retain the current style in parallel. So what do we need to do to get a UK friendly service working? I would like to throw into the mix that it would make sense to me if a complete new rendering service also handled historic mapping as well which should be relatively easy to do if confined to just the UK, but I think we may need to be open to rendering more than just the UK? It's bad enough at the moment tying to cope with W10 being rammed into my clients systems and breaking perfectly good operational hardware, android apps changing various operating procedures in illogical ways, and the various 'browser improvements' resulting in even more legacy sites no longer working without also having to start reworking every map used across my client base. OSM is the only source that has much of the detail that I need to show, and retaining blue ad green road links is essential in my book ... and one of the reasons I started even developing with OSM. -- Lester Caine - G8HFL - Contact - http://lsces.co.uk/wiki/?page=contact L.S.Caine Electronic Services - http://lsces.co.uk EnquirySolve - http://enquirysolve.com/ Model Engineers Digital Workshop - http://medw.co.uk Rainbow Digital Media - http://rainbowdigitalmedia.co.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
