[Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Bob Hawkins]

I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and love 
of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project is to 
improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and Chiltern 
Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on Oxfordshire and 
Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.  Their local authorities 
make available downloads of their Public Rights of Way and I have Ordnance 
Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.  It would be most useful to 
have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.  I have searched the internet 
and cannot find such a file to download.  I communicated with Lucy Murfett, 
Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation Board and received this reply:

Dear Bob,

Thanks for your message and great that you are able to give your time to 
improving this map resource. I am attaching an AONB boundary map with an OS 
base.

I love using GIS but I’m afraid I am not knowledgeable about how to share 
layers or know whether we have permission to do this. Have you tried accessing 
the AONB boundary on the Government’s websites:

http://www.magic.gov.uk/ or  
https://data.gov.uk/data/map-preview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geostore.com%2FOGC%2FOGCInterface%3FSERVICE%3DWMS%26UID%3DUDATAGOV2011%26PASSWORD%3Ddatagov2011%26INTERFACE%3DENVIRONMENT%26LC%3D8000&n=55.816&w=-6.236&e=2.072&s=49.943

Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a digital 
file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?


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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Paul Berry]

Bob,

I can't offer any specific advice myself but it might be worthwhile
contacting the original creators of the AONBs that have already been mapped
on OSM to see if they can offer any specific advice on how they came by
their datasets.

Steve_NI
Dashers
UniEagle
jochta

User jochta has mapped the North Wessex Downs AONB which I understand
shares a boundary with the Chilterns AONB so you might start with them :)

Existing AONB relations are here:
http://ra.osmsurround.org/searchRelation?name=aonb

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Paul Berry

On 16 December 2015 at 15:36, Bob Hawkins  wrote:

> I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and
> love of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project
> is to improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and
> Chiltern Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on
> Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.
> Their local authorities make available downloads of their Public Rights of
> Way and I have Ordnance Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.
> It would be most useful to have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.
> I have searched the internet and cannot find such a file to download.  I
> communicated with Lucy Murfett, Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation
> Board and received this reply:
>
> Dear Bob,
>
> Thanks for your message and great that you are able to give your time to
> improving this map resource. I am attaching an AONB boundary map with an OS
> base.
>
> I love using GIS but I’m afraid I am not knowledgeable about how to share
> layers or know whether we have permission to do this. Have you tried
> accessing the AONB boundary on the Government’s websites:
>
> http://www.magic.gov.uk/ or
> https://data.gov.uk/data/map-preview?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.geostore.com%2FOGC%2FOGCInterface%3FSERVICE%3DWMS%26UID%3DUDATAGOV2011%26PASSWORD%3Ddatagov2011%26INTERFACE%3DENVIRONMENT%26LC%3D8000&n=55.816&w=-6.236&e=2.072&s=49.943
>
> Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a digital
> file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?
>
> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Jon Burgess]

On Wed, 2015-12-16 at 15:36 +, Bob Hawkins wrote:
> Neither of these sites seem to offer the opportunity to download a
> digital file.  I wonder if an OSM user here can help?

There is a download option for the AONB data in this list of files:

http://www.geostore.com/environment-agency/WebStore?xml=environment-agency/xml/ogcDataDownload.xml

I haven't checked the licensing so cannot make any comment about its
suitability for use in OSM.

Jon


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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)]

On 16 December 2015 at 15:36, Bob Hawkins  wrote:
>
> I am a retired cartographer who enjoys extending his connection with and love 
> of mapping by contributing to OpenStreetMap (OSM).  My current project is to 
> improve Public Rights of Way (PROW) attributes and add their PROW and 
> Chiltern Society references to ways in OSM.  I am concentrating on 
> Oxfordshire and Buckinghamshire because that is my geographical area.  Their 
> local authorities make available downloads of their Public Rights of Way and 
> I have Ordnance Survey OpenData civil parish boundary data, too.  It would be 
> most useful to have a digital boundary of the Chilterns AONB.  I have 
> searched the internet and cannot find such a file to download.  I 
> communicated with Lucy Murfett, Planning Officer at Chilterns Conservation 
> Board and received this reply:

I think GIS data for AONB boundaries can be obtained from
http://www.gis.naturalengland.org.uk/ . However, the licence for the
data appears to be based on an old version of the Open Government
Licence (OGL), with an OS-OpenData-Licence style variation insisting
on stronger downstream attribution that OSM can guarantee. IMO this
means we can't use those datasets in OSM at the moment.

However, the reason Natural England have used that licence is almost
certainly because of requirements placed on them by Ordnance Survey.
Ordnance Survey have recently changed for using a customised version
of the OGL to using the OGL version 3.0 un-modified. Thus Natural
England should be able to do the same, at which point we'd be able to
make use of their data sets.

Robert.

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Re: [Talk-GB] The Chilterns AONB boundary

[Bob Hawkins]

Paul, Jon and Robert
I thank you all for your very prompt and constructive replies.  I have 
downloaded the AONB boundaries that Jon pointed me to, in both .tab and .shp 
format (I am amazed always at what valuable information to hand people have and 
the wonderful benefit of forums and mailing lists!).  The boundaries seem to be 
just what I was looking for.  I should make clear: my use of The Chilterns AONB 
boundary is for my purpose only to assist the delineation of my area of 
interest.
Bob

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Re: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December at 8pm

[Harry Wood]

Thanks for making something happen Rob!

So this conference call is TOMORROW at 8pm.

I added those details to the wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/UK

But d'you have the dial-in details?

Harry



From: Rob Nickerson 
To: Talk-GB  
Sent: Sunday, 6 December 2015, 19:25
Subject: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December
at 8pm



Hi all,


Early this year I published a survey asking about “a UK/GB OpenStreetMap
group”. 101 people filled it in and many contacted me to say they liked the 
idea. Encouraged by the this and my local 
Mappa Mercia group, we feel the time is right to start the group. To get us 
going Wikimedia UK have kindly offered us their teleconference facility for 
our first meeting – 8pm on 17th December. I've used teleconferencing facilities 
in the past for State of the Map 2013 and find that they work well (no 
text/chat facility ensures that there is only one conversation going on - the 
one being heard by everyone).

Survey results:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A8rKyKUW0X01n-JEMLwEUT4ktX-7WrxNP03YTkZs6lU/edit#

To get
us going we will need a few people to commit time over the next 6 
months. The roles we need are set out below and
we will need to initially fill them and then, once we have a 
constitution in place, we will need volunteers to stand for election. These 
roles will be needed irrespective of whether decision making lies with the 
membership or an elected board.

* Chair – to provide leadership and ensures the group functions properly

* Treasurer – to organise the finances of the group. Initially this will 
mean setting up our bank account.

* Secretary/Membership secretary – to keep the register of members up to 
date (indeed to set 
on up in the first place), to ensure that voting procedures are carried 
out in accordance to our agreed policy. There is potential for this to 
be two separate roles.We will also need an initial working group to provide 
ideas and discussion. This group can also support the 
aforementioned roles in small discrete tasks.

Please let me know 
if you can help with setting up the group and/or whether you would be 
willing to stand for election once the constitution is established. I will 
share the telephone 
number and login PIN closer to the date.

Best,

Rob

p.s. Busy on 17th December? No worries. Send me you comments and I will make 
sure they are shared.
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Re: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December at 8pm

[Brian Prangle]

Hi everyone

Calls from a mobile, the number is 0330 336 2206, and the passcode 33224.
Calls will cost the same as a call to an 01 or 02 landline.

Calls from a landline, the number is 0800 22 90 900 (same passcode) which
will be free

Regards

Brian

On 16 December 2015 at 22:10, Harry Wood  wrote:

> Thanks for making something happen Rob!
>
> So this conference call is TOMORROW at 8pm.
>
> I added those details to the wiki page:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/UK
>
> But d'you have the dial-in details?
>
> Harry
>
>
> 
> From: Rob Nickerson 
> To: Talk-GB 
> Sent: Sunday, 6 December 2015, 19:25
> Subject: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th
> Decemberat 8pm
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
> Early this year I published a survey asking about “a UK/GB OpenStreetMap
> group”. 101 people filled it in and many contacted me to say they liked
> the idea. Encouraged by the this and my local
> Mappa Mercia group, we feel the time is right to start the group. To get
> us going Wikimedia UK have kindly offered us their teleconference facility
> for
> our first meeting – 8pm on 17th December. I've used teleconferencing
> facilities in the past for State of the Map 2013 and find that they work
> well (no text/chat facility ensures that there is only one conversation
> going on - the one being heard by everyone).
>
> Survey results:
>
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A8rKyKUW0X01n-JEMLwEUT4ktX-7WrxNP03YTkZs6lU/edit#
>
> To get
> us going we will need a few people to commit time over the next 6
> months. The roles we need are set out below and
> we will need to initially fill them and then, once we have a
> constitution in place, we will need volunteers to stand for election.
> These roles will be needed irrespective of whether decision making lies
> with the membership or an elected board.
>
> * Chair – to provide leadership and ensures the group functions
> properly
>
> * Treasurer – to organise the finances of the group. Initially this
> will mean setting up our bank account.
>
> * Secretary/Membership secretary – to keep the register of members up
> to date (indeed to set
> on up in the first place), to ensure that voting procedures are carried
> out in accordance to our agreed policy. There is potential for this to
> be two separate roles.We will also need an initial working group to
> provide ideas and discussion. This group can also support the
> aforementioned roles in small discrete tasks.
>
> Please let me know
> if you can help with setting up the group and/or whether you would be
> willing to stand for election once the constitution is established. I will
> share the telephone
> number and login PIN closer to the date.
>
> Best,
>
> Rob
>
> p.s. Busy on 17th December? No worries. Send me you comments and I will
> make sure they are shared.
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Re: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December at 8pm

[Shaun McDonald]

Hi Brian,

Are you aware that 0800 numbers are now free from mobiles?
http://www.moneysavingexpert.com/news/phones/2015/06/0800-numbers-now-free-to-call-from-mobiles

Shaun

> On 16 Dec 2015, at 23:06, Brian Prangle  wrote:
> 
> Hi everyone
> 
> Calls from a mobile, the number is 0330 336 2206, and the passcode 33224. 
> Calls will cost the same as a call to an 01 or 02 landline. 
> 
> Calls from a landline, the number is 0800 22 90 900 (same passcode) which 
> will be free
> 
> Regards
> 
> Brian
> 
> On 16 December 2015 at 22:10, Harry Wood  > wrote:
> Thanks for making something happen Rob!
> 
> So this conference call is TOMORROW at 8pm.
> 
> I added those details to the wiki page:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/UK 
> 
> But d'you have the dial-in details?
> 
> Harry
> 
> 
> 
> From: Rob Nickerson  >
> To: Talk-GB mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>>
> Sent: Sunday, 6 December 2015, 19:25
> Subject: [Talk-GB] First UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting - 17th December
> at 8pm
> 
> 
> 
> Hi all,
> 
> 
> Early this year I published a survey asking about “a UK/GB OpenStreetMap
> group”. 101 people filled it in and many contacted me to say they liked the 
> idea. Encouraged by the this and my local
> Mappa Mercia group, we feel the time is right to start the group. To get us 
> going Wikimedia UK have kindly offered us their teleconference facility for
> our first meeting – 8pm on 17th December. I've used teleconferencing 
> facilities in the past for State of the Map 2013 and find that they work well 
> (no text/chat facility ensures that there is only one conversation going on - 
> the one being heard by everyone).
> 
> Survey results:
> https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A8rKyKUW0X01n-JEMLwEUT4ktX-7WrxNP03YTkZs6lU/edit#
>  
> 
> 
> To get
> us going we will need a few people to commit time over the next 6
> months. The roles we need are set out below and
> we will need to initially fill them and then, once we have a
> constitution in place, we will need volunteers to stand for election. These 
> roles will be needed irrespective of whether decision making lies with the 
> membership or an elected board.
> 
> * Chair – to provide leadership and ensures the group functions properly
> 
> * Treasurer – to organise the finances of the group. Initially this will 
> mean setting up our bank account.
> 
> * Secretary/Membership secretary – to keep the register of members up to 
> date (indeed to set
> on up in the first place), to ensure that voting procedures are carried
> out in accordance to our agreed policy. There is potential for this to
> be two separate roles.We will also need an initial working group to provide 
> ideas and discussion. This group can also support the
> aforementioned roles in small discrete tasks.
> 
> Please let me know
> if you can help with setting up the group and/or whether you would be
> willing to stand for election once the constitution is established. I will 
> share the telephone
> number and login PIN closer to the date.
> 
> Best,
> 
> Rob
> 
> p.s. Busy on 17th December? No worries. Send me you comments and I will make 
> sure they are shared.
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[Talk-GB] Agenda and Joining details for Today's OpenStreetMap UK/GB telephone meeting

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

As noted in previous emails to this list, please find the dial in number
for the first UK/GB OpenStreetMap group meeting below.

Brian Prangle has kindly volunteered to help facilitate the first meeting
following on from his Chairmanship of the State of the Map 2013
(Birmingham) group. The following brief agenda has will be followed in the
interest of wanting to deal with bite-sized chunks and to get things
moving, not in wanting to curtail discussion.

*Suggested agenda:*

   - Welcome & Introduction
   - Aims & Objectives
   - Name or project code
   - Volunteers for pre-inauguration working group
   - Volunteers for "officers-elect" and eventually as officers (subject to
   election): Chair, Secretary(to include membership admin unless a separate
   role),Treasurer.

Suggested duration 1 hour, but not set in stone.

*Joining details:*
*->Today, Thursday 17th December at 8pm*
This is a telephone conference with the facilities kindly provided by
Wikimedia UK. There are two UK numbers to select from. Shaun informs me
that the the 0800 number should now be free from both landlines and mobiles
but just in case I also include the 03 number. The 03 number costs no more
than a national rate call to a traditional 01 or 02 number and if you have
inclusive minutes as part of your phone/mobile contract then you can use
these on the 03 number.

Numbers and passcode at
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-gb/2015-December/018108.html

*Survey results:*
As a reminder the results of the survey we did earlier this year can be
found at:
https://docs.google.com/document/d/1A8rKyKUW0X01n-JEMLwEUT4ktX-7WrxNP03YTkZs6lU/edit

Hope to hear from many of you today (Thursday) at 8pm.

Regards,
*Rob*
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