Re: [Talk-GB] MapThePaths - updates
On 2 July 2018 at 11:17, Roger Calvert wrote: > I have found a difference in the references given in Map The Paths my area > from that on the local authority maps, and I suspect it is universal. > > The paths are given with a 3 figure reference, but on the maps issued by the > Lake District National Park Authority to volunteer footpath surveyors, they > have a 6 figure reference, the first three referring to the Civil Parish in > which they lie. (The LDNPA maintains footpaths in the National Park under > contract with Cumbria County Council.) On rowmaps, there's a standardised format whereby the parish name/number goes in one field and the path number goes in another. The display then joins them back together again with a space. Different counties use different formats for combining the numbers, possibly using a slash of dash between them, or possibly including the parish name rather than a parish number. It's also possible that the format used in the GIS data is not the actual legal format used in the Definitive Map and Statement, i.e. the parish numbers might just be an internal convenience. The interpretation of the rowmaps data therefore needs a bit of care. In the case of Cumbria, I've just made an FOI/EIR request for a list of the parish names corresponding to the numbers, and asked whether the numbers are used in the Definitive Statement. See https://www.whatdotheyknow.com/request/public_rights_of_way_gis_data_5 Robert. -- Robert Whittaker ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] MapThePaths - updates
Thanks, Nick. In fact Barry shows all 6 figures, but with a gap between the parish prefix and the PROW reference number. Regards, Roger On 02/07/2018 18:24, Nick Whitelegg wrote: Hello Roger, Yes, I think I've noticed the 6-figure PROW IDs when I've been in the Lake District. The IDs I use are those that Barry Cornelius (rowmaps) uses, as my data is taken from his site. Not sure if he has access to the full IDs, but it's worth contacting him as he would probably know - his site is rowmaps.com. Nick *From:* Roger Calvert *Sent:* 02 July 2018 11:17:47 *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] MapThePaths - updates I have found a difference in the references given in Map The Paths my area from that on the local authority maps, and I suspect it is universal. The paths are given with a 3 figure reference, but on the maps issued by the Lake District National Park Authority to volunteer footpath surveyors, they have a 6 figure reference, the first three referring to the Civil Parish in which they lie. (The LDNPA maintains footpaths in the National Park under contract with Cumbria County Council.) For example, OSM way 2186193630 coincides with footpath reference 049 in Lowick parish, but is numbered 551049 on the LDNPA map. All paths in Lowick are prefixed 551. Where this path crosses into the next parish (Blawith and Subberthwaite) it becomes ref 016 on Map The Paths, but is 505016 on the LDNPA map. All paths in this parish are prefixed 505. The 3 figure references are certainly re-used in different parishes. For example, there is a bridleway (OSM 54189587) also with the reference 016 (539016) less than 2 km away in the adjoining Kirkby Ireleth parish (it becomes 505023 where it crosses into Blawith and Subberthwaite, and I have spotted another 023 a few miles away in adjoining Colton parish), so that confusion is certainly possible. I do not know whether these parish prefixes are available under a suitable license, but if they are, I think they would be a useful addition to the Map The Paths references. Regards, Rogerc -- Roger Calvert -- Roger Calvert ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] MapThePaths - updates
Hello Roger, Yes, I think I've noticed the 6-figure PROW IDs when I've been in the Lake District. The IDs I use are those that Barry Cornelius (rowmaps) uses, as my data is taken from his site. Not sure if he has access to the full IDs, but it's worth contacting him as he would probably know - his site is rowmaps.com. Nick From: Roger Calvert Sent: 02 July 2018 11:17:47 To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] MapThePaths - updates I have found a difference in the references given in Map The Paths my area from that on the local authority maps, and I suspect it is universal. The paths are given with a 3 figure reference, but on the maps issued by the Lake District National Park Authority to volunteer footpath surveyors, they have a 6 figure reference, the first three referring to the Civil Parish in which they lie. (The LDNPA maintains footpaths in the National Park under contract with Cumbria County Council.) For example, OSM way 2186193630 coincides with footpath reference 049 in Lowick parish, but is numbered 551049 on the LDNPA map. All paths in Lowick are prefixed 551. Where this path crosses into the next parish (Blawith and Subberthwaite) it becomes ref 016 on Map The Paths, but is 505016 on the LDNPA map. All paths in this parish are prefixed 505. The 3 figure references are certainly re-used in different parishes. For example, there is a bridleway (OSM 54189587) also with the reference 016 (539016) less than 2 km away in the adjoining Kirkby Ireleth parish (it becomes 505023 where it crosses into Blawith and Subberthwaite, and I have spotted another 023 a few miles away in adjoining Colton parish), so that confusion is certainly possible. I do not know whether these parish prefixes are available under a suitable license, but if they are, I think they would be a useful addition to the Map The Paths references. Regards, Rogerc -- Roger Calvert ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] MapThePaths - updates
I have found a difference in the references given in Map The Paths my area from that on the local authority maps, and I suspect it is universal. The paths are given with a 3 figure reference, but on the maps issued by the Lake District National Park Authority to volunteer footpath surveyors, they have a 6 figure reference, the first three referring to the Civil Parish in which they lie. (The LDNPA maintains footpaths in the National Park under contract with Cumbria County Council.) For example, OSM way 2186193630 coincides with footpath reference 049 in Lowick parish, but is numbered 551049 on the LDNPA map. All paths in Lowick are prefixed 551. Where this path crosses into the next parish (Blawith and Subberthwaite) it becomes ref 016 on Map The Paths, but is 505016 on the LDNPA map. All paths in this parish are prefixed 505. The 3 figure references are certainly re-used in different parishes. For example, there is a bridleway (OSM 54189587) also with the reference 016 (539016) less than 2 km away in the adjoining Kirkby Ireleth parish (it becomes 505023 where it crosses into Blawith and Subberthwaite, and I have spotted another 023 a few miles away in adjoining Colton parish), so that confusion is certainly possible. I do not know whether these parish prefixes are available under a suitable license, but if they are, I think they would be a useful addition to the Map The Paths references. Regards, Rogerc -- Roger Calvert ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
