[Talk-GB] landuse=scrub wood

[Warin]

Hi,


I'm presently targeting low use, inappropriate and non rendering values 
of landuse.


Presently looking at landuse=scrub .. as a human use of the land I don't 
think scrub is one.


It is a land cover and would be better tagged as natural=scrub, it makes 
sense and it renders!



While doing this I can across this Way: 250644200 tagged as landuse=wood 
.. from 2013.


It is adjacent to Way: 250644211 tagged landuse=scrub.

This area should all be tagged natural=scrub .. no trees evident in 
current imagery.



Are that any disagreement with;


* landuse=scrub is better tagged as natural=scrub?


* landuse=wood is better tagged as natural=wood?


* that this particular area is better updated using the present imagery?


Note that a past edit was 'repaired' by woodpeck_repair in 2015 on the 
Way: 250644200.


Personally I see these as global issues rather than local issues. But 
there you go.





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Re: [Talk-GB] Missing long distance footpath relation

[SK53]

Hi Brian,

No problems. If I have JOSM open these things are usually pretty quick:
experience definitely helps here.

Relation restored in c/s https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/61146269

Jerry

On 28 July 2018 at 14:56, Brian Prangle  wrote:

> Hi Jerry
>
> I'd appreciate you doing this - I'm just not confident enough that I'd be
> breaking more than I'm fixing. I have walked the entire length of this path
> and can do a manual cross check to make sure it's all there. Your attic
> overpass from 2014 looked good on  a first pass but I haven't been able to
> download it again or look at a changeset revert as I have been plagued with
> timeouts given this is a large relation.
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 14:42, SK53  wrote:
>
>> The easiest way to do this is to use the Undelete Object option on the
>> File Menu of JOSM. This is perfect when it's a single object which needs to
>> be undeleted.
>>
>> I've just done this and it looks as though all (nearly all?) ways are
>> present in the data.
>>
>> I can try uploading whenever I get the go ahead.
>>
>> Jerry
>>
>> On 27 July 2018 at 13:25, Brian Prangle  wrote:
>>
>>> I've decided not to do anything at the moment until I understand better
>>> what I'm doing - I  feel  way out of my depth here. If I did what I was
>>> suggesting earlier - not only might I duplicate the ways but I will
>>> probably generate hosts of conflicts
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On 27 July 2018 at 13:16, Dave F  wrote:
>>>
 Jerry's OP query also contains the ways, so if you up load them you
 could be duplicating them.

 Have you used the 'revert changeset' JOSM plugin? It works well.

 https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Reverter

 It retains the history of the relations edits

 DaveF


 On 27/07/2018 12:56, Brian Prangle wrote:

 Thanks Jerry and Dave for your quick and helpful responses. Jerry I
 think if I just export your overpass turbo query to  JOSM  and then upload
 that will restore the relation? I've taken a look at the data and it looks
 OK to me. I'll also drop the offender a helpful note. He's an an avid
 contributor from the Coventry Way Association

 Regards

 Brian

 On 27 July 2018 at 12:34, SK53  wrote:

> There are several ways
>
>1. Many LDPs are documented (with relation ids) on this page on
>the wiki:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_long
>_distance_paths . This shows it was relation 75266, deleted 7
>months ago https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/75266/history.
>2. Use Overpass-Turbo with attic data to query an area for some
>point in the past. You can then binary chop of the date to locate the 
> point
>the data were lost, this with 1st Jan 2014
>http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/AB0
>3. If you can locate the time you made edits, find your own edit
>4. Ask someone to search a history file (I'm now so equipped)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Jerry
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 12:09, Brian Prangle  wrote:
>
>> The relation for the Centenary Way in Warwickshire has disappeared.
>> How do I trace which changeset removed it so I can revert? I walked and
>> mapped this some time ago and I don't particularly want to re-create the
>> relation
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Brian
>>
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[Talk-gb-westmidlands] August Meeting

[Brian Prangle]

Hi everyone

We generally do a Saturday meetupin August. Rob and I thought a
Herefordshire venue would be good and seeing as the summer QP is PROWs, we
should try to do as much of the Herefordshire Trail
 as
possible. All of the western section between Bromyard and Ross-on-Wye
remains to be completed according to the OSM relation


Which Saturday is best for everyone? An where's  easiest for people to get
to?

Regards

Brian
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Re: [Talk-GB] Missing long distance footpath relation

[Brian Prangle]

Hi Jerry

I'd appreciate you doing this - I'm just not confident enough that I'd be
breaking more than I'm fixing. I have walked the entire length of this path
and can do a manual cross check to make sure it's all there. Your attic
overpass from 2014 looked good on  a first pass but I haven't been able to
download it again or look at a changeset revert as I have been plagued with
timeouts given this is a large relation.

Regards

Brian

On 27 July 2018 at 14:42, SK53  wrote:

> The easiest way to do this is to use the Undelete Object option on the
> File Menu of JOSM. This is perfect when it's a single object which needs to
> be undeleted.
>
> I've just done this and it looks as though all (nearly all?) ways are
> present in the data.
>
> I can try uploading whenever I get the go ahead.
>
> Jerry
>
> On 27 July 2018 at 13:25, Brian Prangle  wrote:
>
>> I've decided not to do anything at the moment until I understand better
>> what I'm doing - I  feel  way out of my depth here. If I did what I was
>> suggesting earlier - not only might I duplicate the ways but I will
>> probably generate hosts of conflicts
>>
>> Brian
>>
>> On 27 July 2018 at 13:16, Dave F  wrote:
>>
>>> Jerry's OP query also contains the ways, so if you up load them you
>>> could be duplicating them.
>>>
>>> Have you used the 'revert changeset' JOSM plugin? It works well.
>>>
>>> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/JOSM/Plugins/Reverter
>>>
>>> It retains the history of the relations edits
>>>
>>> DaveF
>>>
>>>
>>> On 27/07/2018 12:56, Brian Prangle wrote:
>>>
>>> Thanks Jerry and Dave for your quick and helpful responses. Jerry I
>>> think if I just export your overpass turbo query to  JOSM  and then upload
>>> that will restore the relation? I've taken a look at the data and it looks
>>> OK to me. I'll also drop the offender a helpful note. He's an an avid
>>> contributor from the Coventry Way Association
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> On 27 July 2018 at 12:34, SK53  wrote:
>>>
 There are several ways

1. Many LDPs are documented (with relation ids) on this page on the
wiki:https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom_long
_distance_paths . This shows it was relation 75266, deleted 7
months ago https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/75266/history.
2. Use Overpass-Turbo with attic data to query an area for some
point in the past. You can then binary chop of the date to locate the 
 point
the data were lost, this with 1st Jan 2014
http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/AB0
3. If you can locate the time you made edits, find your own edit
4. Ask someone to search a history file (I'm now so equipped)

 Cheers,

 Jerry

 On 27 July 2018 at 12:09, Brian Prangle  wrote:

> The relation for the Centenary Way in Warwickshire has disappeared.
> How do I trace which changeset removed it so I can revert? I walked and
> mapped this some time ago and I don't particularly want to re-create the
> relation
>
> Regards
>
> Brian
>
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