Re: [Talk-GB] Road name contradictions in the UK

[Andrew Hain]

Is this something that could go in Survey Me?

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From: Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-GB 

Sent: 22 February 2019 20:47
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-GB] Road name contradictions in the UK


Hi Everyone,



Our Open Maps team 
(https://github.com/microsoft/open-maps)
 has been continuing to work on analyzing OSM in the UK.  Some of you may have 
seen my session in Milan where we talked about Microsoft’s ongoing OSM work in 
Australia.



We’ve created a list of the top 1500 streets in the UK that appear to be 
missing names along with the name that we suspect should be there. We are not 
100% certain if our suspicious are correct and, not being local to these areas 
we are not remotely trying to fill these in. If there are folks that know these 
areas we could use your help closing these gaps.



The complete list is available here:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw



These are not major roads but they are associated with a large number of 
residential addresses so end up having a big impact.  We may also create a 
Maproulette challenge for these as well if that is preferable?



Thanks,

Oisin

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/herriotto





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Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

[Andrew Hain]

Some roads tagged service look like reasonable candidates:

https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/346182691
[https://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/osm_logo_256-cde84d7490f0863c7a0b0d0a420834ebd467c1214318167d0f9a39f25a44d6bd.png]

Way: 346182691 | OpenStreetMap
OpenStreetMap is a map of the world, created by people like you and free to use 
under an open license.
www.openstreetmap.org



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From: Jez Nicholson 
Sent: 07 March 2019 14:19
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

I'm also wondering whether you should exclude Service Roads as it indicates an 
access road with no name, e.g. https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/225081816

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 2:10 PM Jez Nicholson 
mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I randomly found 2 good examples: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/634592359 
and https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/478481882 which are both new housing 
estateswhich would fit why a road with a lot of houses is unnamed. They may 
have been mapped prior to them receiving official road names.

The case that Greg already noted, mobile home parks, e.g. 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230945815 may have road names but are 
sometimes private property and not accessible to mappers.

Perhaps there is extra processing that could classify them?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:57 PM Gregory Marler 
mailto:i...@nomoregrapes.com>> wrote:
Hi Oisin,

I've taken a very quick look at this spreadsheet (oops, getting distracted from 
work).

1) Can you elaborate on the source(s) of suspected road names?
2) It would helpful if each of us could look at your list in a more localised 
aspect. Either including county would be more helpful, or at least having 
latitude and longitude in separate columns makes it easier to use in other 
tools usually.
3) There's some obvious reasons why some of those aren't in OSM just by looking 
at the first 5.
3a) One was on a caravan park, so it might not have an official name or even a 
sign (again I would like to question the source).
3b) A way was about 3 metres to connect one road to another, it's debatable 
whether it should be named itself but could be fixed without a survey.
3c) There are lots of abbreviated names in your spreadsheet, even "Clos" which 
I presume is a strange shortening of "Close".

A Maproulette challenge might tempt people to copy the names from your 
spreadsheet (the legality and suitability of that is very unknown!).

All the best from Chester-le-Street,
Gregory.


On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 13:38, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-GB 
mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:
Hello again,

Wondering if there was any discussion on the previously submitted question, 
which is inline below? Happy to elaborate anyway I can where there is any 
ambiguity 

Thanks,
Oisin


From: Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:47 PM
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Road name contradictions in the UK


Hi Everyone,



Our Open Maps team 
(https://github.com/microsoft/open-maps)
 has been continuing to work on analyzing OSM in the UK.  Some of you may have 
seen my session in Milan where we talked about Microsoft’s ongoing OSM work in 
Australia.



We’ve created a list of the top 1500 streets in the UK that appear to be 
missing names along with the name that we suspect should be there. We are not 
100% certain if our suspicious are correct and, not being local to these areas 
we are not remotely trying to fill these in. If there are folks that know these 
areas we could use your help closing these gaps.



The complete list is available here:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw



These are not major roads but they are associated with a large number of 
residential addresses so end up having a big impact.  We may also create a 
Maproulette challenge for these as well if that is preferable?



Thanks,

Oisin

https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/herriotto





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Re: [Talk-GB] Marking closed businesses

[Edward Catmur via Talk-GB]

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:25 PM Jez Nicholson 
wrote:

> Fuanctioning restaurants and food-related shops are listed in the FHRS
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Food_Hygiene_Rating_System
>
> As an aside, it can be useful to retain the old name of a
> restaurant/pub/takeaway so that other mappers don't re-add it...can someone
> remind me what tag they'd use for an ex-name please?
>
>
I would use old_name, possibly with a date namespace e.g.
old_name:-2018=Maplin
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Re: [Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

[Jez Nicholson]

I randomly found 2 good examples:
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/634592359 and
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/478481882 which are both new housing
estateswhich would fit why a road with a lot of houses is unnamed. They
may have been mapped prior to them receiving official road names.

The case that Greg already noted, mobile home parks, e.g.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/230945815 may have road names but are
sometimes private property and not accessible to mappers.

Perhaps there is extra processing that could classify them?

On Thu, Mar 7, 2019 at 1:57 PM Gregory Marler  wrote:

> Hi Oisin,
>
> I've taken a very quick look at this spreadsheet (oops, getting distracted
> from work).
>
> 1) Can you elaborate on the source(s) of suspected road names?
> 2) It would helpful if each of us could look at your list in a more
> localised aspect. Either including county would be more helpful, or at
> least having latitude and longitude in separate columns makes it easier to
> use in other tools usually.
> 3) There's some obvious reasons why some of those aren't in OSM just by
> looking at the first 5.
> 3a) One was on a caravan park, so it might not have an official name or
> even a sign (again I would like to question the source).
> 3b) A way was about 3 metres to connect one road to another, it's
> debatable whether it should be named itself but could be fixed without a
> survey.
> 3c) There are lots of abbreviated names in your spreadsheet, even "Clos"
> which I presume is a strange shortening of "Close".
>
> A Maproulette challenge might tempt people to copy the names from your
> spreadsheet (the legality and suitability of that is very unknown!).
>
> All the best from Chester-le-Street,
> Gregory.
>
>
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 13:38, Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via
> Talk-GB  wrote:
>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> Wondering if there was any discussion on the previously submitted
>> question, which is inline below? Happy to elaborate anyway I can where
>> there is any ambiguity 
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Oisin
>>
>> --
>> *From:* Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)
>> *Sent:* Friday, February 22, 2019 12:47 PM
>> *To:* talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
>> *Subject:* Road name contradictions in the UK
>>
>>
>> Hi Everyone,
>>
>>
>>
>> Our Open Maps team (https://github.com/microsoft/open-maps
>> )
>> has been continuing to work on analyzing OSM in the UK.  Some of you may
>> have seen my session in Milan where we talked about Microsoft’s
>> ongoing OSM work in Australia.
>>
>>
>>
>> We’ve created a list of the top 1500 streets in the UK that appear to be
>> missing names along with the name that we *suspect* should be there. We
>> are not 100% certain if our suspicious are correct and, not being local to
>> these areas we are not remotely trying to fill these in. If there are folks
>> that know these areas we could use your help closing these gaps.
>>
>>
>>
>> The complete list is available here:
>>
>> https://1drv.ms/x/s!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw
>> 
>>
>>
>>
>> These are not major roads but they are associated with a large number of
>> residential addresses so end up having a big impact.  We may also create
>> a Maproulette challenge for these as well if that is preferable?
>>
>>
>>
>> Thanks,
>>
>> Oisin
>>
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/herriotto
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>> Windows 10
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Re: [Talk-GB] Microsoft missive jammed in the system?

[Jez Nicholson]

Thank you muchly.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 13:37 Tom Hughes,  wrote:

> On 07/03/2019 13:33, Jez Nicholson wrote:
>
> > I've had contact with Oisin from Microsoft whom I met at SoTM Milan. He
> > has been trying to mail the list about "/Some dodgy streetnames in the
> > Uk, and how the community would like to handle them/:" and it might need
> > moderator approval to post.
> >
> > Could someone with moderator abilities take a look please?
>
> Done, but for future reference he will find it works a lot better
> if he subscribes to the list first...
>
> Tom
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Re: [Talk-GB] Microsoft missive jammed in the system?

[Tom Hughes]

On 07/03/2019 13:33, Jez Nicholson wrote:

I've had contact with Oisin from Microsoft whom I met at SoTM Milan. He 
has been trying to mail the list about "/Some dodgy streetnames in the 
Uk, and how the community would like to handle them/:" and it might need 
moderator approval to post.


Could someone with moderator abilities take a look please?


Done, but for future reference he will find it works a lot better
if he subscribes to the list first...

Tom

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[Talk-GB] Fw: Road name contradictions in the UK

[Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-GB]

Hello again,

Wondering if there was any discussion on the previously submitted question, 
which is inline below? Happy to elaborate anyway I can where there is any 
ambiguity 

Thanks,
Oisin


From: Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc)
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 12:47 PM
To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Road name contradictions in the UK


Hi Everyone,



Our Open Maps team 
(https://github.com/microsoft/open-maps)
 has been continuing to work on analyzing OSM in the UK.  Some of you may have 
seen my session in Milan where we talked about Microsoft’s ongoing OSM work in 
Australia.



We’ve created a list of the top 1500 streets in the UK that appear to be 
missing names along with the name that we suspect should be there. We are not 
100% certain if our suspicious are correct and, not being local to these areas 
we are not remotely trying to fill these in. If there are folks that know these 
areas we could use your help closing these gaps.



The complete list is available here:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw



These are not major roads but they are associated with a large number of 
residential addresses so end up having a big impact.  We may also create a 
Maproulette challenge for these as well if that is preferable?



Thanks,

Oisin
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/herriotto


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[Talk-GB] Road name contradictions in the UK

[Oisin Herriott (Insight Global Inc) via Talk-GB]

Hi Everyone,



Our Open Maps team 
(https://github.com/microsoft/open-maps)
 has been continuing to work on analyzing OSM in the UK.  Some of you may have 
seen my session in Milan where we talked about Microsoft’s ongoing OSM work in 
Australia.



We’ve created a list of the top 1500 streets in the UK that appear to be 
missing names along with the name that we suspect should be there. We are not 
100% certain if our suspicious are correct and, not being local to these areas 
we are not remotely trying to fill these in. If there are folks that know these 
areas we could use your help closing these gaps.



The complete list is available here:

https://1drv.ms/x/s!As04HHdPPfhgg4lYigS4IiWjp2JJiw



These are not major roads but they are associated with a large number of 
residential addresses so end up having a big impact.  We may also create a 
Maproulette challenge for these as well if that is preferable?



Thanks,

Oisin
https://www.openstreetmap.org/user/herriotto


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Re: [Talk-GB] More imagery

[Dan Stowell]

Yes, I'm sure it would. Are there any specific nicenesses of these aerials
- eg hi red, recent, different time of day?

I'm currently having discussions about mapping solar panels in the UK. Both
manually and semi automatically. (Don't worry, no weird imports!) Although
existing imagery might be fine for this, the more the merrier...

Best
Dan

Op woensdag 6 maart 2019 schreef chilton steve via Talk-GB <
talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>:
> Would OSM benefit from another imagery source? Getmapping have
tentatively offered theirs. See:
https://itsahill.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/edina-geoforum-2019/
> and get back to me via any of the normal methods.
>
> Cheers
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Re: [Talk-GB] Marking closed businesses

[phil]

On Thursday, 7 March 2019, Jez Nicholson wrote:
> Fuanctioning restaurants and food-related shops are listed in the FHRS
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Food_Hygiene_Rating_System
> 
> As an aside, it can be useful to retain the old name of a
> restaurant/pub/takeaway so that other mappers don't re-add it...can someone
> remind me what tag they'd use for an ex-name please?

Absolutely, a closed shop is also a useful landmark. Somebody using it is not 
necessarily looking to buy something. 

For example the local Toys r us is still displaying the logos. Obviously it is 
tagged as disused:shop.

Phil (trigpoint)
> 
> On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 10:24 David Woolley,  wrote:
> 
> > On 07/03/2019 09:47, Jon Spriggs wrote:
> > >
> > > Near where I am are some mapped businesses properties which have closed,
> > > primarily shops, but also a couple of restaurants.
> > >
> >
> > There is more than one common way of doing this.
> >
> > Is the building exclusively used by the business?  If not, I would map
> > the business as a point, or as a polygon covering the plan view area
> > occupied by the business, and not tag the building with business details.
> >
> > >
> > > a) A building holds a functioning business (that isn't a shop or
> > restaurant
> > The appropriate tagging for the functioning business, e.g. office=*
> >
> > > b) A building holds a functioning shop
> >
> > shop=yes
> >
> > > c) A building holds a functioning restaurant
> >
> > amenity=restaurant
> >
> > > d) A building is a former business property (ceased
> > > trading/closed/moved) with no new business taking it's spot
> >
> > shop=vacant
> >
> > or
> >
> > disused:shop=
> > disused:amenity=restaurant
> >
> > >
> > > As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it worth
> > > asking the Street Complete developers to add information about
> > > businesses to their collection data, if they aren't already?
> >
> > I've never heard of that, so I've no idea what the developer's
> > objectives were.  I'm not aware of any Android tool that I would
> > recommend to someone who was not experienced with one of the big three
> > PC editors.
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[Talk-GB] Microsoft missive jammed in the system?

[Jez Nicholson]

I've had contact with Oisin from Microsoft whom I met at SoTM Milan. He has
been trying to mail the list about "*Some dodgy streetnames in the Uk, and
how the community would like to handle them*:" and it might need moderator
approval to post.

Could someone with moderator abilities take a look please?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Marking closed businesses

[Jez Nicholson]

Fuanctioning restaurants and food-related shops are listed in the FHRS
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/UK_Food_Hygiene_Rating_System

As an aside, it can be useful to retain the old name of a
restaurant/pub/takeaway so that other mappers don't re-add it...can someone
remind me what tag they'd use for an ex-name please?

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 10:24 David Woolley,  wrote:

> On 07/03/2019 09:47, Jon Spriggs wrote:
> >
> > Near where I am are some mapped businesses properties which have closed,
> > primarily shops, but also a couple of restaurants.
> >
>
> There is more than one common way of doing this.
>
> Is the building exclusively used by the business?  If not, I would map
> the business as a point, or as a polygon covering the plan view area
> occupied by the business, and not tag the building with business details.
>
> >
> > a) A building holds a functioning business (that isn't a shop or
> restaurant
> The appropriate tagging for the functioning business, e.g. office=*
>
> > b) A building holds a functioning shop
>
> shop=yes
>
> > c) A building holds a functioning restaurant
>
> amenity=restaurant
>
> > d) A building is a former business property (ceased
> > trading/closed/moved) with no new business taking it's spot
>
> shop=vacant
>
> or
>
> disused:shop=
> disused:amenity=restaurant
>
> >
> > As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it worth
> > asking the Street Complete developers to add information about
> > businesses to their collection data, if they aren't already?
>
> I've never heard of that, so I've no idea what the developer's
> objectives were.  I'm not aware of any Android tool that I would
> recommend to someone who was not experienced with one of the big three
> PC editors.
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[Talk-GB] StreetComplete (was: Marking closed businesses)

[Andy Townsend]

On 07/03/2019 10:22, David Woolley wrote:

On 07/03/2019 09:47, Jon Spriggs wrote:
As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it 
worth asking the Street Complete developers to add information about 
businesses to their collection data, if they aren't already?


I've never heard of that, so I've no idea what the developer's 
objectives were.  I'm not aware of any Android tool that I would 
recommend to someone who was not experienced with one of the big three 
PC editors.


The Streetcomplete author seems pretty keen to "map all the things" so 
I'm sure they'd be up for that.


They're pretty active on the forum - see e.g. 
https://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?pid=740032#p740032 - so 
you should be able to get in touch there.


Best Regards,

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Re: [Talk-GB] Marking closed businesses

[David Woolley]

On 07/03/2019 09:47, Jon Spriggs wrote:


Near where I am are some mapped businesses properties which have closed, 
primarily shops, but also a couple of restaurants.




There is more than one common way of doing this.

Is the building exclusively used by the business?  If not, I would map 
the business as a point, or as a polygon covering the plan view area 
occupied by the business, and not tag the building with business details.




a) A building holds a functioning business (that isn't a shop or restaurant

The appropriate tagging for the functioning business, e.g. office=*


b) A building holds a functioning shop


shop=yes


c) A building holds a functioning restaurant


amenity=restaurant

d) A building is a former business property (ceased 
trading/closed/moved) with no new business taking it's spot


shop=vacant

or

disused:shop=
disused:amenity=restaurant



As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it worth 
asking the Street Complete developers to add information about 
businesses to their collection data, if they aren't already?


I've never heard of that, so I've no idea what the developer's 
objectives were.  I'm not aware of any Android tool that I would 
recommend to someone who was not experienced with one of the big three 
PC editors.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Marking closed businesses

[Paul Berry]

Hi Jon,

Apologies if this is obvious but here goes...

I don't know whether you need to do anything other than visit these places
in person and make a judgement as to whether they are trading or not. It's
usually pretty clear with closure notices posted, etc. Then update the map
accordingly by adding the appropriate disused tag:

https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Key:disused:

Regards,
*Paul*

On Thu, 7 Mar 2019 at 09:48, Jon Spriggs  wrote:

> Hi,
>
> Near where I am are some mapped businesses properties which have closed,
> primarily shops, but also a couple of restaurants.
>
> I'm far from an OSM expert, and my gentle trawl of the wiki hasn't given
> me any real insight. It's got me thinking, and I'd like to improve
> information about properties in my area. How can I identify that:
>
> a) A building holds a functioning business (that isn't a shop or
> restaurant)
> b) A building holds a functioning shop
> c) A building holds a functioning restaurant
> d) A building is a former business property (ceased trading/closed/moved)
> with no new business taking it's spot
>
> As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it worth
> asking the Street Complete developers to add information about businesses
> to their collection data, if they aren't already?
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[Talk-GB] Marking closed businesses

[Jon Spriggs]

Hi,

Near where I am are some mapped businesses properties which have closed,
primarily shops, but also a couple of restaurants.

I'm far from an OSM expert, and my gentle trawl of the wiki hasn't given me
any real insight. It's got me thinking, and I'd like to improve information
about properties in my area. How can I identify that:

a) A building holds a functioning business (that isn't a shop or restaurant)
b) A building holds a functioning shop
c) A building holds a functioning restaurant
d) A building is a former business property (ceased trading/closed/moved)
with no new business taking it's spot

As a side note, I've been using Street Complete on Android. Is it worth
asking the Street Complete developers to add information about businesses
to their collection data, if they aren't already?
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Re: [Talk-GB] More imagery

[phil]

Shropshire Council use GetMapping on their PROW map. It is very clear and 
recent.

I would find it very useful as a mapping source.

Phil (trigpoint)

On Thursday, 7 March 2019, Marc Gemis wrote:
> Even before the Belgian local chapter was formed, some community
> member(s) wrote to AIV (Flemish agency for information) [1] whether we
> could use their aerial imagery for tracing. We got that permission.
> Similar requests were made to the other regions in Belgium. It does
> not really matter whether there is a registered company or not. The
> request should outline what you plan to do (tracing) and where the
> data will be used.
> I was not involved in the request, but some of our current board
> members were (if I recall it correctly)
> 
> regards
> 
> m.
> 
> [1] https://overheid.vlaanderen.be/informatie-vlaanderen
> 
> On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 11:13 PM Rob Nickerson  
> wrote:
> >
> > Sounds good. Although it is worth noting that OSM UK is us - i.e. the 
> > OpenStreetMap community in the UK. Yes it does happen to be a registered 
> > company which helps in some conversations (some companies like to speak 
> > with other companies) but to get things moving fastest we welcome help from 
> > fellow OSMers. If not then it will fall to the OSM UK board, of which there 
> > are 5 people (I am one) with limited volunteer time.
> >
> > To get things started I have written to OSMF's advisory board to see if any 
> > of the local groups or organisations that form part of that have experience 
> > with getmapping imagery. If you can pass contact details from getmapping 
> > then we can start enquiries.
> >
> > P.S. If anyone reading this wants to jump in and help, please let me know.
> >
> > With best regards,
> > Rob
> >
> >
> > On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 21:14, chilton steve  
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> Rob,
> >>
> >> Thanks for the response.
> >>
> >> In fact I would prefer to hand over to OSMUK or some more formal part of 
> >> the project, particularly if they have experience of such 
> >> discussions/negotiations.
> >>
> >> I don't know what the level of content is. They market themselves as 
> >> leading provider in UK so I don't think global.
> >>
> >> I will email OSMUK first before going to the company, just to see how the 
> >> land lies (pun intended!).
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Steve
> >>
> >> On 06 March 2019 at 19:54 Rob Nickerson  wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Steve,
> >>
> >> >Would OSM benefit from another imagery source? Getmapping have 
> >> >tentatively offered theirs. See: 
> >> >https://itsahill.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/edina-geoforum-2019/ and get 
> >> >back to me via any of the normal methods.
> >> >
> >> >Cheers
> >> >Steve Chilton (@steev8)
> >>
> >> It's certainly worth exploring and I think this is something that OSM UK 
> >> company can assist with if they prefer to discuss with a registered 
> >> company rather than an individual (could still be you, just on behalf of, 
> >> and with the support of OSM UK if that helps with discussions).
> >>
> >> What are the next steps? I guess confirming it is unique content is a good 
> >> step - rather than a copy of Digital Globe imagery already available to us 
> >> for example. Do you want to start an email discussion with them cc'ing 
> >> bo...@osmuk.org in and we can arrange a call / meeting with them if that 
> >> helps.
> >>
> >> P.S. Are we speaking UK or global?
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Rob
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] More imagery

[Jez Nicholson]

As an aside: Dan S. may be interested in the list of (ground mounted) solar
farms that I am building up at
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Renewable_energy_in_the_United_Kingdom#List_of_under_construction_and_operational_UK_Ground_Mounted_Solar_Farms
and also talking to the OpenInfraMap team
https://openinframap.org/about.html

- Jez

On Wed, Mar 6, 2019 at 10:12 PM Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> Sounds good. Although it is worth noting that OSM UK is us - i.e. the
> OpenStreetMap community in the UK. Yes it does happen to be a registered
> company which helps in some conversations (some companies like to speak
> with other companies) but to get things moving fastest we welcome help from
> fellow OSMers. If not then it will fall to the OSM UK board, of which there
> are 5 people (I am one) with limited volunteer time.
>
> To get things started I have written to OSMF's advisory board to see if
> any of the local groups or organisations that form part of that have
> experience with getmapping imagery. If you can pass contact details from
> getmapping then we can start enquiries.
>
> P.S. If anyone reading this wants to jump in and help, please let me know.
>
> With best regards,
> *Rob*
>
>
> On Wed, 6 Mar 2019 at 21:14, chilton steve 
> wrote:
>
>> Rob,
>>
>> Thanks for the response.
>>
>> In fact I would prefer to hand over to OSMUK or some more formal part of
>> the project, particularly if they have experience of such
>> discussions/negotiations.
>>
>> I don't know what the level of content is. They market themselves as
>> leading provider in UK so I don't think global.
>>
>> I will email OSMUK first before going to the company, just to see how the
>> land lies (pun intended!).
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Steve
>>
>> On 06 March 2019 at 19:54 Rob Nickerson 
>> wrote:
>>
>> Hi Steve,
>>
>> >Would OSM benefit from another imagery source? Getmapping have
>> tentatively offered theirs. See:
>> https://itsahill.wordpress.com/2019/03/05/edina-geoforum-2019/ and get
>> back to me via any of the normal methods.
>> >
>> >Cheers
>> >Steve Chilton (@steev8)
>>
>> It's certainly worth exploring and I think this is something that OSM UK
>> company can assist with if they prefer to discuss with a registered company
>> rather than an individual (could still be you, just on behalf of, and with
>> the support of OSM UK if that helps with discussions).
>>
>> What are the next steps? I guess confirming it is unique content is a
>> good step - rather than a copy of Digital Globe imagery already available
>> to us for example. Do you want to start an email discussion with them
>> cc'ing bo...@osmuk.org in and we can arrange a call / meeting with them
>> if that helps.
>>
>> P.S. Are we speaking UK or global?
>>
>> Best regards,
>> *Rob*
>>
>>
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