[Talk-GB] Any UK datasets that we could use with the new (July) version of RapiD OSM editor?

[Rob Nickerson]

Hi all,

Am a bit late to this, but hopefully some of you spotted the ESRI/Facebook
announcement in July about the new RapiD editor plus JOSM plugin. If not
see:

https://www.esri.com/arcgis-blog/products/arcgis-living-atlas/mapping/arcgis-data-support-in-osm-editors/

I've started a Loomio thread to see if there are any datasets that might be
worthy of exploring using this tool. Using Loomio so that we can make use
of the tools over there (e.g. voting, ranked preferences, etc) but will
keep an eye on any comments shared here as per usual.

https://www.loomio.org/d/vExqDZyS/which-uk-data-could-be-used-in-the-new-rapid-josm-plugin-

There is a good chance that OSM UK would be able to support with uploading
the data on the ESRI platform if we do decide that there is something worth
using. Also if data needs pre-processing (e.g. several datasets combining)
then we can explore that at the same time (similar to what we were
suggesting at the SotM workshop with combining a few of the recent open
datasets).

So yeah, let me know if you have any suggestions. :-)

Thanks you
*Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB]

Thanks! I forgot that en-GB can also be translated, so
translation mistakaes may become cause of a problem.

Thanks for a fixing it!


Sep 16, 2020, 13:51 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org:

> Hopefully I've fixed them on TW for the next update.
>
> Tom
>
> On 16/09/2020 12:44, Tom Hughes via Talk-GB wrote:
>
>> That would be because somebody on TranslateWiki has added a bunch
>> of bogus strings to the en-GB translation:
>>
>> https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/blob/master/config/locales/en-GB.yml#L621
>>  
>>
>> Tom
>>
>> On 16/09/2020 12:00, Paul Berry wrote:
>>
>>> Sorry, I wasn't in edit mode so nothing to do with iD. I'm using the latest 
>>> version of Chrome on Windows 10 and browsing to the standard 
>>> https://www.openstreetmap.org site with Standard Layer selected and the 
>>> Query tool used. You can see that everything's in en-gb (as I have set it), 
>>> excepting the one search result in question, by viewing the screenshot 
>>> here: http://pberry.me.uk/osm/osm_query.png
>>>
>>> I've double-checked on other devices, operating systems, and browsers but 
>>> the issue remains. I hope this helps to narrow down the problem.
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>> /Paul/
>>>
>>> On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 11:04, Nick via Talk-GB >> > wrote:
>>>
>>>     Hi Gareth
>>>
>>>     It was just a thought if that might have been the source
>>>
>>>     Cheers
>>>
>>>     Nick
>>>
>>>     On 16/09/2020 10:12, Gareth L wrote:
>>>
     Hi Nick,

     Not in the example I cited.

     Gareth

>     On 16 Sep 2020, at 10:03, Nick 
>      wrote:
>
>     
>
>     Just out of curiosity, were these all mapped with the new version
>     of the RapiD OSM editor https://mapwith.ai/rapid-esri?
>
>     On 16/09/2020 08:18, Gareth L wrote:
>
>>
>>     Morning Mateusz,
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     You’re right, it’s not encountered in edit mode.
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     4:
>>
>>  1. “en-GB en”
>>  2. “en-GB”
>>  3. System Locale: en-us;English (United States)*
>>
>>     Input Locale: en-gb;English (United Kingdom)
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     *damn, i’m normally better at keeping it en-gb!
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Gareth
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Sent from Mail 
>>     for Windows 10
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     *From: *Mateusz Konieczny 
>>     *Sent: *16 September 2020 08:09
>>     *To: *Gareth L 
>>     *Cc: *Paul Berry ; Talk GB
>>     
>>     *Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed
>>     in tiles is not related
>>
>>     (both are using OSM data and here similarities end)
>>
>>     2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto
>>     (default map style)
>>
>>     3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe
>>     it uses an iD 
>>
>>     presets that have some bug)
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     4) Which exactly language settings you have? 
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     (a) In OSM settings
>>
>>     (b) In browser
>>
>>     (c) In OS
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     For me this is not present,
>>
>>     I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp group
>>     ") as I selected
>>
>>     Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.
>>
>>     __ __
>>
>>     Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk :
>>
>>     Hi Paul,
>>
>>     I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or
>>     overpass-api really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through
>>     its GitHub repo https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD
>>     
>>
>>     For others curious, an example is go to
>>     https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and
>>     right click> query features on say, the ITP building or air
>>     ambulance. It will show “Индустриална сграда itp group” on
>>     the results where you choose which element you want more
>>     detail on.
>>
>>     I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like
>>     there has been quite a lot of activity in the localisation
>>     section, so it 

Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Tom Hughes via Talk-GB]

Hopefully I've fixed them on TW for the next update.

Tom

On 16/09/2020 12:44, Tom Hughes via Talk-GB wrote:

That would be because somebody on TranslateWiki has added a bunch
of bogus strings to the en-GB translation:

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/blob/master/config/locales/en-GB.yml#L621 



Tom

On 16/09/2020 12:00, Paul Berry wrote:
Sorry, I wasn't in edit mode so nothing to do with iD. I'm using the 
latest version of Chrome on Windows 10 and browsing to the standard 
https://www.openstreetmap.org site with Standard Layer selected and 
the Query tool used. You can see that everything's in en-gb (as I have 
set it), excepting the one search result in question, by viewing the 
screenshot here: http://pberry.me.uk/osm/osm_query.png


I've double-checked on other devices, operating systems, and browsers 
but the issue remains. I hope this helps to narrow down the problem.


Regards,
/Paul/

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 11:04, Nick via Talk-GB 
mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:


    Hi Gareth

    It was just a thought if that might have been the source

    Cheers

    Nick

    On 16/09/2020 10:12, Gareth L wrote:

    Hi Nick,

    Not in the example I cited.

    Gareth


    On 16 Sep 2020, at 10:03, Nick 
     wrote:

    

    Just out of curiosity, were these all mapped with the new version
    of the RapiD OSM editor https://mapwith.ai/rapid-esri?

    On 16/09/2020 08:18, Gareth L wrote:


    Morning Mateusz,

    __ __

    You’re right, it’s not encountered in edit mode.

    __ __

    4:

 1. “en-GB en”
 2. “en-GB”
 3. System Locale: en-us;English (United States)*

    Input Locale: en-gb;English (United Kingdom)

    __ __

    *damn, i’m normally better at keeping it en-gb!

    __ __

    Gareth

    __ __

    Sent from Mail 
    for Windows 10

    __ __

    *From: *Mateusz Konieczny 
    *Sent: *16 September 2020 08:09
    *To: *Gareth L 
    *Cc: *Paul Berry ; Talk GB
    
    *Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

    __ __

    1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed
    in tiles is not related

    (both are using OSM data and here similarities end)

    2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto
    (default map style)

    3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe
    it uses an iD 

    presets that have some bug)

    __ __

    Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.

    __ __

    4) Which exactly language settings you have? 

    __ __

    (a) In OSM settings

    (b) In browser

    (c) In OS

    __ __

    For me this is not present,

    I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp group
    ") as I selected

    Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.

    __ __

    Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk :

    Hi Paul,

    I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or
    overpass-api really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through
    its GitHub repo https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD
    

    For others curious, an example is go to
    https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and
    right click> query features on say, the ITP building or air
    ambulance. It will show “Индустриална сграда itp group” on
    the results where you choose which element you want more
    detail on.

    I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like
    there has been quite a lot of activity in the localisation
    section, so it is possibly a recently introduced bug.

    Gareth

    *From: *Paul Berry 

    *Sent: *16 September 2020 00:21

    *To: *Talk GB 

    *Subject: *[Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

    Hi all,

    Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting
    the mailing list. However, I hope the right people can be
    found this way.

    If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the
    Overpass API) and point at a commercial building you get a
    Bulgarian label in the results set instead of an English
    one: Търговска Сграда, which translates as "commercial
    building" - there might be other cosmetic bugs out there.

    Regards,

    /Paul/

    __ __

    __ __


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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Tom Hughes via Talk-GB]

That would be because somebody on TranslateWiki has added a bunch
of bogus strings to the en-GB translation:

https://github.com/openstreetmap/openstreetmap-website/blob/master/config/locales/en-GB.yml#L621

Tom

On 16/09/2020 12:00, Paul Berry wrote:
Sorry, I wasn't in edit mode so nothing to do with iD. I'm using the 
latest version of Chrome on Windows 10 and browsing to the standard 
https://www.openstreetmap.org site with Standard Layer selected and the 
Query tool used. You can see that everything's in en-gb (as I have set 
it), excepting the one search result in question, by viewing the 
screenshot here: http://pberry.me.uk/osm/osm_query.png


I've double-checked on other devices, operating systems, and browsers 
but the issue remains. I hope this helps to narrow down the problem.


Regards,
/Paul/

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 11:04, Nick via Talk-GB 
mailto:talk-gb@openstreetmap.org>> wrote:


Hi Gareth

It was just a thought if that might have been the source

Cheers

Nick

On 16/09/2020 10:12, Gareth L wrote:

Hi Nick,

Not in the example I cited.

Gareth


On 16 Sep 2020, at 10:03, Nick 
 wrote:



Just out of curiosity, were these all mapped with the new version
of the RapiD OSM editor https://mapwith.ai/rapid-esri?

On 16/09/2020 08:18, Gareth L wrote:


Morning Mateusz,

__ __

You’re right, it’s not encountered in edit mode.

__ __

4:

 1. “en-GB en”
 2. “en-GB”
 3. System Locale: en-us;English (United States)*

Input Locale: en-gb;English (United Kingdom)

__ __

*damn, i’m normally better at keeping it en-gb!

__ __

Gareth

__ __

Sent from Mail 
for Windows 10

__ __

*From: *Mateusz Konieczny 
*Sent: *16 September 2020 08:09
*To: *Gareth L 
*Cc: *Paul Berry ; Talk GB

*Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

__ __

1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed
in tiles is not related

(both are using OSM data and here similarities end)

2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto
(default map style)

3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe
it uses an iD 

presets that have some bug)

__ __

Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.

__ __

4) Which exactly language settings you have? 

__ __

(a) In OSM settings

(b) In browser

(c) In OS

__ __

For me this is not present,

I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp group
") as I selected

Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.

__ __

Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk :

Hi Paul,

I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or
overpass-api really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through
its GitHub repo https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD


For others curious, an example is go to
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and
right click> query features on say, the ITP building or air
ambulance. It will show “Индустриална сграда itp group” on
the results where you choose which element you want more
detail on.

I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like
there has been quite a lot of activity in the localisation
section, so it is possibly a recently introduced bug.

Gareth

*From: *Paul Berry 

*Sent: *16 September 2020 00:21

*To: *Talk GB 

*Subject: *[Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

Hi all,

Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting
the mailing list. However, I hope the right people can be
found this way.

If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the
Overpass API) and point at a commercial building you get a
Bulgarian label in the results set instead of an English
one: Търговска Сграда, which translates as "commercial
building" - there might be other cosmetic bugs out there.

Regards,

/Paul/

__ __

__ __


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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Paul Berry]

Sorry, I wasn't in edit mode so nothing to do with iD. I'm using the
latest version of Chrome on Windows 10 and browsing to the standard
https://www.openstreetmap.org site with Standard Layer selected and the
Query tool used. You can see that everything's in en-gb (as I have set it),
excepting the one search result in question, by viewing the screenshot
here: http://pberry.me.uk/osm/osm_query.png

I've double-checked on other devices, operating systems, and browsers but
the issue remains. I hope this helps to narrow down the problem.

Regards,
*Paul*

On Wed, 16 Sep 2020 at 11:04, Nick via Talk-GB 
wrote:

> Hi Gareth
>
> It was just a thought if that might have been the source
>
> Cheers
>
> Nick
> On 16/09/2020 10:12, Gareth L wrote:
>
> Hi Nick,
>
> Not in the example I cited.
>
> Gareth
>
> On 16 Sep 2020, at 10:03, Nick  
> wrote:
>
> 
>
> Just out of curiosity, were these all mapped with the new version of the
> RapiD OSM editor https://mapwith.ai/rapid-esri?
> On 16/09/2020 08:18, Gareth L wrote:
>
> Morning Mateusz,
>
>
>
> You’re right, it’s not encountered in edit mode.
>
>
>
> 4:
>
>1. “en-GB en”
>2. “en-GB”
>3. System Locale: en-us;English (United States)*
>
> Input Locale:  en-gb;English (United Kingdom)
>
>
>
> *damn, i’m normally better at keeping it en-gb!
>
>
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
>
> *From: *Mateusz Konieczny 
> *Sent: *16 September 2020 08:09
> *To: *Gareth L 
> *Cc: *Paul Berry ; Talk GB
> 
> *Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD
>
>
>
> 1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed in tiles is
> not related
>
> (both are using OSM data and here similarities end)
>
> 2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto (default map
> style)
>
> 3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe it uses an
> iD
>
> presets that have some bug)
>
>
>
> Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.
>
>
>
> 4) Which exactly language settings you have?
>
>
>
> (a) In OSM settings
>
> (b) In browser
>
> (c) In OS
>
>
>
> For me this is not present,
>
> I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp group
> ") as I selected
>
> Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.
>
>
>
> Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk:
>
> Hi Paul,
>
>
>
> I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or overpass-api
> really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through its GitHub repo
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD
>
>
>
> For others curious, an example is go to
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and right click>
> query features on say, the ITP building or air ambulance. It will show 
> “Индустриална
> сграда itp group” on the results where you choose which element you want
> more detail on.
>
>
>
> I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like there has been
> quite a lot of activity in the localisation section, so it is possibly a
> recently introduced bug.
>
>
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
> *From: *Paul Berry 
>
> *Sent: *16 September 2020 00:21
>
> *To: *Talk GB 
>
> *Subject: *[Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD
>
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>
> Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the mailing
> list. However, I hope the right people can be found this way.
>
>
>
> If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass API) and
> point at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian label in the results set
> instead of an English one: Търговска Сграда, which translates as
> "commercial building" - there might be other cosmetic bugs out there.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> *Paul*
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Nick via Talk-GB]

Hi Gareth

It was just a thought if that might have been the source

Cheers

Nick

On 16/09/2020 10:12, Gareth L wrote:

Hi Nick,

Not in the example I cited.

Gareth


On 16 Sep 2020, at 10:03, Nick  wrote:



Just out of curiosity, were these all mapped with the new version of 
the RapiD OSM editor https://mapwith.ai/rapid-esri?


On 16/09/2020 08:18, Gareth L wrote:


Morning Mateusz,

You’re right, it’s not encountered in edit mode.

4:

 1. “en-GB en”
 2. “en-GB”
 3. System Locale: en-us;English (United States)*

Input Locale: en-gb;English (United Kingdom)

*damn, i’m normally better at keeping it en-gb!

Gareth

Sent from Mail  for 
Windows 10


*From: *Mateusz Konieczny 
*Sent: *16 September 2020 08:09
*To: *Gareth L 
*Cc: *Paul Berry ; Talk GB 


*Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed in 
tiles is not related


(both are using OSM data and here similarities end)

2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto 
(default map style)


3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe it 
uses an iD


presets that have some bug)

Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.

4) Which exactly language settings you have?

(a) In OSM settings

(b) In browser

(c) In OS

For me this is not present,

I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp group 
") as I selected


Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.

Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk:

Hi Paul,

I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or
overpass-api really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through its
GitHub repo https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD


For others curious, an example is go to
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and
right click> query features on say, the ITP building or air
ambulance. It will show “Индустриална сграда itp group” on the
results where you choose which element you want more detail on.

I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like there
has been quite a lot of activity in the localisation section, so
it is possibly a recently introduced bug.

Gareth

*From: *Paul Berry 

*Sent: *16 September 2020 00:21

*To: *Talk GB 

*Subject: *[Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

Hi all,

Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the
mailing list. However, I hope the right people can be found this
way.

If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass
API) and point at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian
label in the results set instead of an English one: Търговска
Сграда, which translates as "commercial building" - there might
be other cosmetic bugs out there.

Regards,

/Paul/


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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Gareth L]

Hi Nick,

Not in the example I cited.

Gareth

On 16 Sep 2020, at 10:03, Nick  wrote:



Just out of curiosity, were these all mapped with the new version of the RapiD 
OSM editor https://mapwith.ai/rapid-esri?

On 16/09/2020 08:18, Gareth L wrote:
Morning Mateusz,

You’re right, it’s not encountered in edit mode.

4:

  1.  “en-GB en”
  2.  “en-GB”
  3.  System Locale: en-us;English (United States)*

Input Locale:  en-gb;English (United Kingdom)

*damn, i’m normally better at keeping it en-gb!

Gareth

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Mateusz Konieczny
Sent: 16 September 2020 08:09
To: Gareth L
Cc: Paul Berry; Talk 
GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed in tiles is not 
related
(both are using OSM data and here similarities end)
2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto (default map 
style)
3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe it uses an iD
presets that have some bug)

Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.

4) Which exactly language settings you have?

(a) In OSM settings
(b) In browser
(c) In OS

For me this is not present,
I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp 
group") as I selected
Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.

Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk:
Hi Paul,

I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or overpass-api 
really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through its GitHub repo 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD

For others curious, an example is go to 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and right click> query 
features on say, the ITP building or air ambulance. It will show “Индустриална 
сграда itp group” on the results where you choose which element you want more 
detail on.

I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like there has been quite 
a lot of activity in the localisation section, so it is possibly a recently 
introduced bug.

Gareth

From: Paul Berry
Sent: 16 September 2020 00:21
To: Talk GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

Hi all,

Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the mailing list. 
However, I hope the right people can be found this way.

If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass API) and point 
at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian label in the results set instead 
of an English one: Търговска Сграда, which translates as "commercial building" 
- there might be other cosmetic bugs out there.

Regards,
Paul






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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Nick]

Just out of curiosity, were these all mapped with the new version of the 
RapiD OSM editor https://mapwith.ai/rapid-esri?


On 16/09/2020 08:18, Gareth L wrote:


Morning Mateusz,

You’re right, it’s not encountered in edit mode.

4:

 1. “en-GB en”
 2. “en-GB”
 3. System Locale: en-us;English (United States)*

Input Locale: en-gb;English (United Kingdom)

*damn, i’m normally better at keeping it en-gb!

Gareth

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Windows 10


*From: *Mateusz Konieczny 
*Sent: *16 September 2020 08:09
*To: *Gareth L 
*Cc: *Paul Berry ; Talk GB 


*Subject: *Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed in 
tiles is not related


(both are using OSM data and here similarities end)

2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto (default 
map style)


3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe it 
uses an iD


presets that have some bug)

Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.

4) Which exactly language settings you have?

(a) In OSM settings

(b) In browser

(c) In OS

For me this is not present,

I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp group 
") as I selected


Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.

Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk:

Hi Paul,

I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or
overpass-api really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through its
GitHub repo https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD

For others curious, an example is go to
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676
 and
right click> query features on say, the ITP building or air
ambulance. It will show “Индустриална сграда itp group” on the
results where you choose which element you want more detail on.

I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like there
has been quite a lot of activity in the localisation section, so
it is possibly a recently introduced bug.

Gareth

*From: *Paul Berry 

*Sent: *16 September 2020 00:21

*To: *Talk GB 

*Subject: *[Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

Hi all,

Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the
mailing list. However, I hope the right people can be found this way.

If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass
API) and point at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian label
in the results set instead of an English one: Търговска Сграда,
which translates as "commercial building" - there might be other
cosmetic bugs out there.

Regards,

/Paul/


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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Gareth L]

Morning Mateusz,

You’re right, it’s not encountered in edit mode.

4:

  1.  “en-GB en”
  2.  “en-GB”
  3.  System Locale: en-us;English (United States)*

Input Locale:  en-gb;English (United Kingdom)

*damn, i’m normally better at keeping it en-gb!

Gareth

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From: Mateusz Konieczny
Sent: 16 September 2020 08:09
To: Gareth L
Cc: Paul Berry; Talk 
GB
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed in tiles is not 
related
(both are using OSM data and here similarities end)
2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto (default map 
style)
3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe it uses an iD
presets that have some bug)

Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.

4) Which exactly language settings you have?

(a) In OSM settings
(b) In browser
(c) In OS

For me this is not present,
I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp 
group") as I selected
Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.

Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk:
Hi Paul,

I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or overpass-api 
really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through its GitHub repo 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD

For others curious, an example is go to 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and right click> query 
features on say, the ITP building or air ambulance. It will show “Индустриална 
сграда itp group” on the results where you choose which element you want more 
detail on.

I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like there has been quite 
a lot of activity in the localisation section, so it is possibly a recently 
introduced bug.

Gareth

From: Paul Berry
Sent: 16 September 2020 00:21
To: Talk GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

Hi all,

Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the mailing list. 
However, I hope the right people can be found this way.

If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass API) and point 
at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian label in the results set instead 
of an English one: Търговска Сграда, which translates as "commercial building" 
- there might be other cosmetic bugs out there.

Regards,
Paul



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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB]

1) it is not a bug of default style at all - what is displayed in tiles is not 
related
(both are using OSM data and here similarities end)
2) it is not a Mapnik bug - it is a library used by OSM Carto (default map 
style)
3) it is not in edit mode, so it is likely not an iD bug (maybe it uses an iD 
presets that have some bug)

Is it still visible in edit mode? The it may be an iD bug.

4) Which exactly language settings you have? 

(a) In OSM settings
(b) In browser
(c) In OS

For me this is not present,
I see Polish description ("Budynek przemysłowy itp group 
") as I selected
Polish as preferred language in OSM settings.

Sep 16, 2020, 08:57 by o...@live.co.uk:

>
> Hi Paul,
>
>
>  
>
>
> I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or overpass-api 
> really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through its GitHub repo > 
> https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD
>
>
>  
>
>
> For others curious, an example is go to >  
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676>  and right click> 
> query features on say, the ITP building or air ambulance. It will show “> 
> Индустриална сграда > itp group> ” on the results where you choose which 
> element you want more detail on.
>
>
>  
>
>
> I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like there has been 
> quite a lot of activity in the localisation section, so it is possibly a 
> recently introduced bug.
>
>
>  
>
>
> Gareth
>
>
>  
>
>
>
> From: > Paul Berry 
>  > Sent: > 16 September 2020 00:21
>  > To: > Talk GB 
>  > Subject: > [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD
>
>
>
>  
>
>
> Hi all,
>
>
>  
>
>
> Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the mailing list. 
> However, I hope the right people can be found this way.
>
>
>  
>
>
> If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass API) and 
> point at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian label in the results set 
> instead of an English one: Търговска Сграда, which translates as "commercial 
> building" - there might be other cosmetic bugs out there.
>
>
>  
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
> Paul
>
>
>  
>
>

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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Gareth L]

Hi Paul,

I’m not sure if the fault is with the ID viewer, mapnik, or overpass-api 
really. ID bugs can be reported/tracked through its GitHub repo 
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD

For others curious, an example is go to 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.37824/-1.23676 and right click> query 
features on say, the ITP building or air ambulance. It will show “Индустриална 
сграда itp group” on the results where you choose which element you want more 
detail on.

I’m not that familiar with the codebase but it looks like there has been quite 
a lot of activity in the localisation section, so it is possibly a recently 
introduced bug.

Gareth

From: Paul Berry
Sent: 16 September 2020 00:21
To: Talk GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

Hi all,

Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the mailing list. 
However, I hope the right people can be found this way.

If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass API) and point 
at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian label in the results set instead 
of an English one: Търговска Сграда, which translates as "commercial building" 
- there might be other cosmetic bugs out there.

Regards,
Paul

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Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query strangeness within iD

[Mateusz Konieczny via Talk-GB]

Have you set Bulgarian as a preferred language in OSM settings?

Are you using browser in Bulgarian language?

Have you set Bulgarian as preferred language in browser?

"query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass API)" - which 
part of iD is using Overpass API? Can you be more specific?

Are you maybe talking about query feature on the OSM page
used without going into edit mode?

If it is an actual iD bug then it would be worth reporting it at
https://github.com/openstreetmap/iD

Sep 16, 2020, 01:20 by pmberry2...@gmail.com:

> Hi all,
>
> Not sure who to direct this to so apologies for targeting the mailing list. 
> However, I hope the right people can be found this way.
>
> If you use the query feature within iD (which uses the Overpass API) and 
> point at a commercial building you get a Bulgarian label in the results set 
> instead of an English one: Търговска Сграда, which translates as "commercial 
> building" - there might be other cosmetic bugs out there.
>
> Regards,
> Paul
>

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