Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging adjacent barriers on a way

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 12 Mar 2017 11:28:41 +
Philip Barnes  wrote:

Hello Philip,

>horses, I as a walker tend to walk over the grid, in my nearly 30 years
>as a rambler I have never know anyone to open a gate in these cases.

Like you, I cross the grid (it takes time to open & close a gate).  I do
know plenty of walkers use the horse/cart gate; not so much for their
own benefit, but for their four-legged fiends.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Quarterly Projects Update

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On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 15:31:32 +0100
pmailkeey . pmailk...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello pmailkeey,

It's likely the right version - as without punctuation is Royal Mail
preferred and it's a new street.

Royal Mail don't decide the correct spelling/punctuation, the relevant
Local Authority does(1).  They (Royal Mail) might prefer no punctuation
but I suspect that's only because their sorting machines don't cope with
it very well.

(1)  Whether any of them pay any attention to RM preferences, IDK.

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Re: [Talk-GB] addressing (was addr:place)

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On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 22:41:56 +
Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:

Hello Chris,

Addresses are allocated by Local Authorities, not Royal Mail. I use the 

I never said they were, although I concede it could read like that.
However, some addresses do seem to get mutilated once Royal Mail get
their hands on them.

As others have pointed out, it can lead to having a hard time getting
some things delivered.

How can you determine the postal town from a survey?

Of course, you can't.  If I want the _postal_ address of somewhere, I
use the RM web site.

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Re: [Talk-GB] addr:place

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On Sun, 26 Oct 2014 19:27:11 +
Chris Hill o...@raggedred.net wrote:

Hello Chris,

Like you, I live in a different parish than the one RM route my post
through.

spurious and wholly wrong concept of Royal Fail's postal town. Postal 

I agree it's a shame that so many people attribute so much value to
RM's postal address.  After all it was, and remains, designed for
*their* purposes only.  That is, the purpose of routing mail
deliveries.  Nothing more.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Life Ring - British English

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On Mon, 16 Jun 2014 11:05:34 +0200
Andreas Goss andi...@t-online.de wrote:

Hello Andreas,

Is life ring how it is commonly referred to in British English. Just 

Always been referred to as lifebelts wherever I've been in England.

Lifebuoy immediately makes me think of soap.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Duff data on facebook

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On Mon, 09 Jun 2014 08:48:13 +0100
Lester Caine les...@lsces.co.uk wrote:

Hello Lester,

Facebook. Can anybody throw ANY light on to why they insistthat their
data is the correct view?

The company that runs facebook don't give a toss.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Sustrans Cycle Maps - Copyright

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 07 Jun 2014 16:09:02 +0100
Bogus Zaba bog...@bogzab.plus.com wrote:

Hello Bogus,

This seems to be saying that use has been made in these maps of both 
OpenStreetMap data and OS data, but overall copyright is being claimed 
by CycleCity Guides and FourPoint Mapping. Does this make any sense? Or 
am I misunderstanding the last line of the above?

My interpretation (note: IANAL) would be that they are claiming
copyright in the way the data is _presented_, not the data itself.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 12:30:42 +
Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote:

Hello Andy,

If there is a facility that allows the general public access to collect
or send mail then I'd consider amenity=post_office to be appropriate.

Royal Mail, Post Office and Parcel Force are three separate companies,
and have been for a number of years now, so care should be taken when
using the word 'or' in that way;  Royal Mail Sorting Offices have the
facility for customers to collect post, but can't be described as Post
Offices, since you can't, for example, tax your car there.

I will freely admit that, in some cases, the lines between the
companies and services they offer can be blurred.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Royal Mail Parcelforce delivery offices

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 12 Jan 2014 14:00:20 +
Andy Street a...@street.me.uk wrote:

Hello Andy,

Not only that but there are other companies in the UK post/parcel
market. I'd absolutely agree that setting the correct operator= and/or
brand= tags is important.

Good point.

FWIW I can't tax my car at my local Post Office nor can I get my
passport checked. Not all post offices will offer the same range of
services but what they do all have in common is that the public will
visit them for sending or collection of mail.

A poor choice, on my part, as an example.  Although, thinking about it,
that aren't *that* many products or services that _all_ Post Offices
offer that are unique to them.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Names on Power Lines

[Brad Rogers]

On Sun, 13 Oct 2013 19:00:58 +0100
Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Rob,

seeing signs on pylons but cannot recall exactly what was on it. 

Usually warnings of dire consequences (i.e. death) for anyone playing on
them.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 12:25:25 +0100
Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu wrote:

Hello Kevin,

Is it not just a browser caching issue? Looks okay to me in Firefox and

Doesn't render correctly at the resolution Jason indicated for me,
either.  It's not an area I look at usually.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 14:27:37 +0100
Jason Woollacott wool...@hotmail.com wrote:

Hello Jason,

It renders fine at all levels when I look at it on the standard map, 
however on the french map the gap is still there.

Strange, as I find it to be okay on the French map, and broken on
streetmap.org.  

I shouldn't be surprised by that, since streetmap.org shows some weird
stuff around my area;  Power lines with chunks missing, roads with gaps
in, roads missing entirely.  The details are there, they just don't
render correctly.   It's been like it for months. Somebody (I don't
recall who) said the issues were on their list of things to fix, but
didn't know when that might be.

Does nothing positive for the image of streetmap.org.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Dartmoor needs fixing (heath area missing a chunk)

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 24 Apr 2013 17:04:48 +0100
Kevin Peat k...@k3v.eu wrote:

Hello Kevin,

I assume you mean openstreetmap.org ?

My apologies.  Yes, I mean openstreetmap.org.  Bad shorthand on my part.

[snipped]
If none of this makes a difference to your problem then let people know
as there may be something else that needs to be investigated.

I knew some of what you suggested, but not all.  I know it's not locally
cached tiles being viewed, but some of the other things you suggest I
didn't know.

Currently, I can't try them as the web site is giving an Application
error message.

Murphy's Law in action.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Ambiguous restrictions sign

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 09:13:48 +
Andy Allan gravityst...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Andy,

Both those links are the same, and both seem to point (for me anyway)
to the original except buses junction.

It's not just you, Andy.  I got the same result and thought it must be
me.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Ambiguous restrictions sign

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 20 Mar 2013 11:31:26 +
David Earl da...@frankieandshadow.com wrote:

Hello David,

Sigh. I corrected them immediately afterwards.

They've not arrived here yet, nor do they appear in the list archive.

It's not a big deal, just pointing out to Andy he wasn't alone.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 25 Jan 2013 20:24:44 +
John Aldridge j...@jjdash.demon.co.uk wrote:

Hello John,

In one case, the location of the path is clear, because it runs between 
two walls and the green Public Footpath signs are present, but a 
section of it has become completely and densely overgrown with
brambles. It also has a large pile of earth obstructing it, which makes
me wonder whether the obstruction is deliberate. It's been like this
for at least a couple of years.

Report it to the relevant PRoW Officer.  The landowner should be forced
to maintain the Way.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Invisible/impassable rights-of-way

[Brad Rogers]

On Sat, 26 Jan 2013 14:56:53 +
Jonathan Harley j...@spiffymap.net wrote:

Hello Jonathan,

Actually, AIUI, the landowner can't be forced to, but if the landowner 
won't reinstate and clear the path, the council must. The council can 
then charge the full cost of them doing so to the landowner - which is 
likely to be far more than if the landowner did it. The threat alone is 

I'm sure it would cost a good deal more.  My understanding appears to be
flawed, too.

Also you don't need to figure out, yourself, who the PRoW officer is - 
just contact the highways department of the local authority.

Good point, well made.

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Re: [Talk-GB] On footpaths

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 5 May 2011 11:20:45 +0100
Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote:

Hello Nick,

 area, and the National Parks. Time for some footpath parties, or
 getting people interested in (say) the southwest?

There's me, living just off Exmoor.  Time limited, but I do what I can.  

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Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 11:35:27 +0100
SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:

Hello SomeoneElse,

 there's not many of them, and a map rendering those nicely at a decent 

That depends on what you mean by not many.  The Long Distance Walkers
Association recognise 1200 or so LDPs.  Not all of them marked, either
on the ground or as routes on OS maps, though.

It's not that they've made them up, they create their list from
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Re: [Talk-GB] Long Distance Paths

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On Fri, 27 Aug 2010 08:50:03 +0100
Ian Spencer ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Ian,

 the OS map provides all sorts of useful clues (e.g. which side of a
 hedge should a footpath run can be very important when you are at a
 complicated junction of footpaths)

Trouble is, the OS maps can wrong:  The Coleridge Way is out of date on
OS maps in a couple of places to my certain knowledge (I walked it
recently).

Of course, this is not a problem unique to LDPs.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Derbyshire area unconnected

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On Wed, 25 Aug 2010 12:33:49 +0100
Ian Spencer ianmspen...@gmail.com wrote:

Hello Ian,

  It is a tricky one in that if you can't tell how they interact with
 OSM you don't know whether the person is being wilful or not. I always

True.  I tend to assume that user is doing accidental 'damage', until
proven otherwise.  I've not yet got enough knowledge and experience of
the OSM systems to be able to mentor anyone in the way that is now
happening to me.

 Funnily enough, when I went back to keepright over my main area of
 mapping this week, I was quite taken aback by how many mistakes I'd
 made and not spotted.

Gave me the willies too, looking at mine for the first time.   :-)

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Re: [Talk-GB] Local walking routes

[Brad Rogers]

On Thu, 5 Aug 2010 10:44:45 +0100
Richard Mann richard.mann.westoxf...@googlemail.com wrote:

Hello Richard,

 probably advise against putting them in the database unless they are
 waymarked.

There are named routes that aren't waymarked.  Near me, for example,
there's the Little Dart Ridge and Valley Walk.  I'd be inclined to add
those to a relation, too.

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Re: [Talk-GB] - Map layer with OS Locator comparison from ITO

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 04 Jun 2010 02:49:53 +0100
SomeoneElse li...@mail.atownsend.org.uk wrote:

Hello SomeoneElse,

 Chine; due west of Niton if you're interested).  It's been there a few 
 years and is not particularly subtle.

Indeed;

http://www.streetmap.co.uk/idld.srf?x=448645y=76705z=120sv=448645,76705st=4ar=ymapp=idld.srfsearchp=ids.srfdn=716ax=448645ay=76705lm=0

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Re: [Talk-GB] Stratford Imagery

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 28 May 2010 09:47:06 + (UTC)
Ed Avis e...@waniasset.com wrote:

Hello Ed,

 Apparently I have unlimited storage on Flickr, so I could do it.

With a proviso;

There is a restriction on the _free_ Flickr accounts in that only a
certain number of images (200, IIRC) are publicly viewable.  So,
eventually, those images would become unavailable when a sufficient
number have been uploaded.  Nothing gets deleted, though.

If you've upgraded to a paid for account, that restriction doesn't apply.

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Re: [Talk-GB] OS StreetView accuracy: caution!

[Brad Rogers]

On Fri, 09 Apr 2010 13:57:40 +0100
David Ellams osmli...@dellams.fastmail.fm wrote:

Hello David,

 it is just reassuring to know that even the great Ordnance Survey can't
 get it all right. 

By their very nature paper maps, like telephone directories, are almost
certain to be out of date before they're published;

New roads get built, people apply for a variance on a ROW, Post Offices
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM coverage

[Brad Rogers]

On Mon, 29 Mar 2010 20:22:26 +0100
Andy Street m...@andystreet.me.uk wrote:

Hello Andy,

 to download the csv file but the link isn't working (404).

It worked for me;  Temporary snafu somewhere, perhaps?

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Re: [Talk-GB] OS 1:25000 out of copyright maps and WMS url

[Brad Rogers]

On Wed, 13 Jan 2010 16:46:29 +
Brad Rogers b...@fineby.me.uk wrote:

Hello Brad,

Replying to self

 As an experiment;
 http://ooc.openstreetmap.org/wms/map.php?source=os1;
 I wonder if the above works correctly.

Not in my MUA.   :-(

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