Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query help - roads within a ward
Hi Tom, My guess would be that since this wad was added very recently, then the corresponding 'area', which is updated less frequently (only within overpass) does not generate results for you. You can see this if you comment out certain parts of your last query: - the line showing the relation (A) works fine - the line generating points around the edges of the relation (A) works fine - the line generating points within the area (a) derived from the relation (A) shows no difference, ie. it doesn't work! Perhaps keeping trying, or just try waiting a day or so and try again :) -- Neil On 28 April 2016 at 08:08, Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net> wrote: > Okay, another one with a problem. > > Using the exact same query for this ward relation: > https://www.openstreetmap.org/relation/6173643 > > Returns an empty dataset: > http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fWi > > If I run the equivalent query suggesting by Neil, it downloads some of > ways that are near to the boundary, but not all, and not the ways within > the boundary: > http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fWj > > Any suggestions gratefully received! > > Tom > > web: http://tomchance.org > twitter: http://twitter.com/tom_chance > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TomChanceGP > > On 25 April 2016 at 16:45, Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net> wrote: > >> Thanks Neil, >> >> I think I'll just have to go with that solution and then delete the ways >> I don't want. >> >> Tom >> >> web: http://tomchance.org >> twitter: http://twitter.com/tom_chance >> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TomChanceGP >> >> On 23 April 2016 at 16:42, Neil Pilgrim <osm-talk...@kepier.clara.net> >> wrote: >> >>> I've had a play with this since I've been working with overpass turbo a >>> bit recently; the best I've come up with so far is something like this: >>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fPR (wy over-commented ;)) >>> As you'll see, this does include these roads, but does also include >>> roads leaving the area. >>> If you un-comment the relation, then that shows the boundary too, which >>> I found useful for debugging. >>> This may be able to be simplified/optimised, but I've gone with what >>> works, and I switched to using a timeout/json as I'm used to that :) >>> If the ways missing were part of the relation then I think >>> way(r.A)[highway][name] should select them too, but that's not how the >>> relation is composed. >>> >>> Hope that gives some other ideas, if nothing else :) >>> >>> -- >>> Neil >>> >>> >>> On 23 April 2016 at 14:20, Tom Chance <t...@acrewoods.net> wrote: >>> >>>> Hi all, >>>> >>>> It has been a very long time since I last posted here! >>>> >>>> I'm trying to use the Overpass API to extract all the roads within the >>>> bounds of a relation, in this case a local government ward. Can anyone spot >>>> the problem in the data? >>>> >>>> Here's the example I'm working with: >>>> http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fPI >>>> >>>> The problem is that some roads aren't being downloaded with the query. >>>> >>>> If you follow that link and run the query, you'll see that the top >>>> section of Belvedere Road, and all of Landsdowne Place, are excluded. There >>>> are a few others like this on the edges of the area. >>>> >>>> I thought it might be because the way used by the boundary relation >>>> runs down the same nodes as those roads. But just at the top of those >>>> roads, the A-Road Church Road is downloaded despite being represented in >>>> the data in the same way. >>>> >>>> I tried putting a 'kink' in the boundary way down at the other end of >>>> Landsdowne Place where it meets Fox Hill so it 'encompasses' a node, but >>>> that didn't help. >>>> >>>> I hope this all makes sense, and maybe somebody can help? >>>> >>>> Tom >>>> >>>> web: http://tomchance.org >>>> twitter: http://twitter.com/tom_chance >>>> facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TomChanceGP >>>> >>>> ___ >>>> Talk-GB mailing list >>>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>>> >>>> >>> >>> ___ >>> Talk-GB mailing list >>> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >>> >>> >> > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Overpass query help - roads within a ward
I've had a play with this since I've been working with overpass turbo a bit recently; the best I've come up with so far is something like this: http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fPR (wy over-commented ;)) As you'll see, this does include these roads, but does also include roads leaving the area. If you un-comment the relation, then that shows the boundary too, which I found useful for debugging. This may be able to be simplified/optimised, but I've gone with what works, and I switched to using a timeout/json as I'm used to that :) If the ways missing were part of the relation then I think way(r.A)[highway][name] should select them too, but that's not how the relation is composed. Hope that gives some other ideas, if nothing else :) -- Neil On 23 April 2016 at 14:20, Tom Chancewrote: > Hi all, > > It has been a very long time since I last posted here! > > I'm trying to use the Overpass API to extract all the roads within the > bounds of a relation, in this case a local government ward. Can anyone spot > the problem in the data? > > Here's the example I'm working with: > http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/fPI > > The problem is that some roads aren't being downloaded with the query. > > If you follow that link and run the query, you'll see that the top section > of Belvedere Road, and all of Landsdowne Place, are excluded. There are a > few others like this on the edges of the area. > > I thought it might be because the way used by the boundary relation runs > down the same nodes as those roads. But just at the top of those roads, the > A-Road Church Road is downloaded despite being represented in the data in > the same way. > > I tried putting a 'kink' in the boundary way down at the other end of > Landsdowne Place where it meets Fox Hill so it 'encompasses' a node, but > that didn't help. > > I hope this all makes sense, and maybe somebody can help? > > Tom > > web: http://tomchance.org > twitter: http://twitter.com/tom_chance > facebook: http://www.facebook.com/TomChanceGP > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Data search request: help please
A quick search on FHRS (which admittedly doesn't do all of them) seems to support the two-pub hypothesis (excepting maybe a bowling club). -- Neil On 22 January 2015 at 22:31, Frederik Ramm frede...@remote.org wrote: Hi, On 01/22/2015 10:59 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: I want to compile a list of all the pubs (including taverns bars, etc) in the UK, with the word Louise as part of the name. I, too, found a much smaller number than expected, by querying a database I have installed for rendering purposes: select 'W' as type,osm_id,coalesce(amenity,tourism) as what,tags-'name' as name,st_x(st_centroid(way)) as lon,st_y(st_centroid(way)) as lat from planet_osm_polygon where tags-'name' like '%Louise%' and way st_makebox2d(st_makepoint(-14.02,49.88),st_makepoint(1.83,61.07)) and ( amenity in('pub','bar','restaurant','fastfood') or tourism='hotel' ); type | osm_id | what | name |lon | lat --+---+--+-++-- W| 164418353 | pub | The Bree Louise | -0.135489232160522 | 51.5270537134717 W| 97237916 | pub | Princess Louise | -0.12157304700441 | 51.5172546574115 (2 rows) And the same query for points gives zero results. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Upcoming changes to OpenStreetMap.org website
I wondered when the SOTM-suggested redesign would surface :) For me (regarding the redesigned version): - The mobile website looks better (menus hidden in the typical menu section), though the top title bar could be shrunk a little IMO. - The regular website is better on my little netbook screen a) the wider/shorter search/welcome piece is an improvement, even if simply due to the absence of a vertical scroll bar due to the height of the previous left-hand sidebar. b) I would second (third?) the comment re the ability to 'X' or drop down/up the welcome piece, though when to have it (re)display by default (new window/tab, new session, cookie/duration) isn't clear. c) Another thing is that the Edit box requires log-in, so... is there a reason that the 'log in' isn't the main route to editing, or should it really be greyed out until the user is logged-in (with a hover-tip)? I suppose this is about making people aware that it can be edited (online)? d) Lastly, the same point applies as per the mobile website, that the top white bar is higher/deeper now; it may be more aesthetically pleasing, but for those of us with tiny screens it's a little frustrating? Do we need to forward our comments to the talk list, or is there some other official channel to make comments to? -- Neil On 16 November 2013 18:01, ael law_ence@ntlworld.com wrote: On Sat, Nov 16, 2013 at 01:36:40PM +, David Earl wrote: On 15/11/2013 20:15, Rob Nickerson wrote: (The aim of this email is to provide prior knowledge of an upcoming change to the OSM website and to give you an opportunity to provide constructive feedback) Would it be possible to have a dismiss button on the Welcome to OpenStreetMap box (including Learn More and Sign Up, but not including search)? Just like the x on the panels that replace it, e.g. when you search. Perhaps if you dismiss it it could join the green buttons as 'Welcome' to get it back. On iPad and netbooks, this box takes up a substantial part of the screen obscuring the map. Less of a problem on larger screens, but still intrusive if you want to see the whole map. Clearly it is a very important part of the page when the whole point is to promote OSM, but being able to make it go away would be helpful when you're just trying to make use of the map. +1 ael ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] UK Food Hygiene Rating System
On 19 Oct 2013 15:15, Andy Street m...@andystreet.me.uk wrote: On Sat, 19 Oct 2013 15:02:01 +0100 Dave F. dave...@madasafish.com wrote: Importing much of another database seems a bit pointless to me when much of the data can change. I feel just a reference back to it is suffice. +1 +1 A quick look at taginfo suggests that fhrs:id would be an appropriate way to tag this: http://taginfo.openstreetmap.org.uk/keys/fhrs%3Aid I'm pretty new to what to do with 'designing' new tags, but that isn't many existing ones really (is it?), and isn't ref more in line with existing usage? ie fhrs:ref ? or is id in common use in other cases? Whether it should be a full URL, or just FHRSID=516821, I'm not sure about. Which would be better for web page design/rendering? I'd opt for just the id rather than a URL. Database primary keys are generally changed infrequently and the URL may well change if the FSA decide to redesign their website. +1 -- Neil ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Ongoing routing develiopments
On 24 June 2013 17:48, Andrew M. Bishop osm-li...@gedanken.org.uk wrote: May I suggest that you give Routino (http://www.routino.org/) a try? There is a UK example running on that website that you can try out. Disclaimer: I wrote Routino, so I might be slightly biased. Perhaps I missed it, but is there a last updated from OSM date/time listed somewhere on the test site? just tested it locally and I thought I added a turn restriction - though admittedly the first I've done - and it seems to have ignored it. Thanks, -- Neil ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] (Olympics) Gold postbox map - credits missing? add to metadata on tagged postboxes?
Hi, I noticed a few days ago that the royal mail has made a map of the postboxes they've painted gold (just temporarily?) for this Olympics. Quite nicely, they use OSM, but they don't (obviously? at all?) credit OSM: http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ Is it credited? If not, who follows up these kinds of things? The post box positions as marked on that map are an overlay of the OSM map, so could give hints as to positions of untagged postboxes for later surveying. I saw an earlier discussion which indicated a lack of enthusiasm (my impression at least), regarding adding olympics data as it was considered 'transient' or 'historical' - or at least in a few weeks/months time it will. What's the feeling regarding tagging the 'gold' nature of these for 2012? Immediate ideas that spring to mind are something like tagging them as gold temporarily and then adding a prefix like 'was:' (akin to disused:). Alternatively, since post boxes are all ref'd (in theory!) then an external database suffices... except that lots of extra data is already *in* the database... Thoughts? -- Neil ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] (Olympics) Gold postbox map - credits missing? add to metadata on tagged postboxes?
On 7 August 2012 17:19, Nick Whitelegg nick.whitel...@solent.ac.uk wrote: I noticed a few days ago that the royal mail has made a map of the postboxes they've painted gold (just temporarily?) for this Olympics. Quite nicely, they use OSM, but they don't (obviously? at all?) credit OSM: http://www.goldpostboxes.com/ This has come up before on the talk list. The site does now credit OSM - look at the bottom. Ah, ok, thanks. I should probably subscribe to -talk as well as -gb... though the torch route came up on -gb, which was why I posted here. I naively expected the credit to be on the map... There is some hint of the olympics on the wiki, but no obvious tagging to date, at least by my taginfo searches. -- Neil ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb