Re: [Talk-GB] UCL Mapping Party - Pub Location

2010-09-25 Thread Nick Black
The Edinboro Castle is always a nice pub:

http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=51.536239&lng=-0.144979&zoom=18&styleId=997&geocoding=poi:edinboro+castle

Plus we can discuss the perils of geocoding the pub's name with the GIS
students ;-)

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On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 3:46 PM, Dan Karran  wrote:

> On 24 Sep 2010, at 08:22, Nick Black  wrote:
>
> Hi Guys,
>
> Does anyone know if a pub has been chosen for a meetup after the UCL
> mapping party next week?
>
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/UCLMappingParties>
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/UCLMappingParties
>
>
> Not that I'm aware of... Any suggestions for a place in Camden that'll be
> nice, and easy to find for people who don't know the area yet?
>
>
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[Talk-GB] UCL Mapping Party - Pub Location

2010-09-24 Thread Nick Black
Hi Guys,

Does anyone know if a pub has been chosen for a meetup after the UCL mapping
party next week?

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London/UCLMappingParties

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Re: [Talk-GB] GB Chapter

2010-04-26 Thread Nick Black
I would be super keen on Charlbury.  Richard's beer pitch sold perfectly :-)

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On Mon, Apr 26, 2010 at 3:39 PM, Emilie Laffray
 wrote:
>
>
> On 26 April 2010 15:18, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists)
>  wrote:
>>
>> Replying to myself here. Northampton would be another location option. Its
>> on the London Midland line which has some cheap fares. It's also a very
>> very
>> unloved town.
>
> For those living near Croydon and not afraid of me driving, this could be a
> possibility at some point.
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Re: [Talk-GB] London Mapping Marathons

2010-04-15 Thread Nick Black
Well, hope I can make it to the next one :-)

For all the POI mappers out there, CloudMade have been experimenting
with a style I like to call "POI Overkill"

http://maps.cloudmade.com/?lat=51.516755&lng=-0.133896&zoom=17&styleId=6618&opened_tab=0



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On Tue, Apr 13, 2010 at 11:32 PM, Someoneelse
 wrote:
> Jo Walsh wrote:
>> "Donde estan los frikis con mapas?"
>>
>> mucha suerte,
>>
>>
>> jo
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> How about in Catalan...
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[Talk-GB] London Mapping Marathons

2010-04-12 Thread Nick Black
Hi Guys,

What are the chances we could do the London Mapping Marathons on
Tuesday or Thursdays?  There's a SOTM conference call every Wednesday
from 8pm BST that makes it difficult to make it to the mapping
parties.

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Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Nick Black
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 5:08 PM, Chris Hill  wrote:

>  Nick Whitelegg wrote:
>
>  What is the point  of local chapters in England?  We don't have language
>
>
>  conversion issues, currency issues or time zone issues.
>
>
>
>  Cheers, Chris
>
>
>  One need would be to organise and coordinate local mapping. For instance,
> in my area (the "Solent" area or "central southern England" for want of a
> better word) a goal to work towards might be to get all towns done, or to
> map local national parks / recreational areas e.g. the New Forest or South
> Downs.
>
> Nick
>
>
>
>  This just feels horribly like a layer of bureaucracy to me.  Why would the
> foundation want to get involved with organising local mapping?  I certainly
> don't need some "official" body to prod me into completing an area.
>

Right, but just because you don't doesn't mean that other people who haven't
yet heard of OSM wouldn't benefit from outreach activities that a local GB
group could support.  Thinking back on the funding we got from RightMove (
http://www.opengeodata.org/?p=204) to sponsor mapping parties, it all helped
get the ball rolling and helped build the OSM community.

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Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Nick Black
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 3:29 PM, Jonathan Bennett <
openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk> wrote:

> Nick Black wrote:
>
> > So far as the structure goes, I had thought that one GB org could work,
> > if it had a series of user groups associated with it.  The GB Chapter
> > could handle GB issues, raising funds to help support national and user
> > group activities, perhaps running a GB website, lobbying the UK
> > government to release data (!), and generally promoting OSM throughout
> > the GB area.  The user groups would be focussed on a more local area (eg
> > Greater London) and would be affiliated (loosely or more closely) to the
> > GB Chapater.
>
> All those activities are ones we want to see, but is there anything
> about them that requires a separate legal entity to OSMF? I'm worried
> that we'd be creating extra bureaucracy unnecessarily.
>
> Can you explain the specific benefits of having both OSMF and OSMF-GB?


Focus.  OSM-F focuses on global issues, OSMF-GB focusses on local / national
issues.  This is just an idea, but I think are two quite different sets of
responsibilities, that should actually reduce the bureaucracy for the local
/ national group.

OSM-F

* Licensing
* Monitoring data inputs
* Global outreach and partnering
* Annual OSM-wide conferences like SOTM
* Legal frameworks
* Owning core API servers
* Global membership

OSM-F Local

* Local community building and outreach
* Local / national conferences
* Local / national press contacts & outreach
* Supporting local user groups in mapping and outreach
* Running local websites
* Local membership schemes


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Re: [Talk-GB] English chapter

2009-08-18 Thread Nick Black
On Tue, Aug 18, 2009 at 1:51 PM, Jonathan Bennett <
openstreet...@jonno.cix.co.uk> wrote:

> David Earl wrote:
> > On 18/08/2009 12:42, Chris Hill wrote:
> >> What is the point  of local chapters in England?  We don't have language
> >> conversion issues, currency issues or time zone issues.
> >
> > The main reason is one of the reasons behind the idea of local chapters
> > in the first place - to give an "official" point of contact for bodies
> > that care about such things. Some bodies find it very hard to deal with
> > individuals somehow representing an amorphous organisation.
>
> How does the OSMF* not fulfil this role? There's no reason someone who
> needs official backing, as it were, can't be made a member of the
> foundation.


When Local Chapters are up and running, the OSM-F will be focussed more on
issues that affect the whole of the OpenStreetMap community.  Things like
maintaining the central DB and API, legal representation for things like
licenses, organizing the annual SOTM, running the osm.org websites,
merchandising and so on, will be more of the focus of the OSM-F.

Local Chapters are there to support OSM in local communities.  This could
include things like talking with local organizations about data imports,
supporting local initiatives (like Mappa-Mercia, or the London summer
mapping marathon), running local conferences and events and generally
supporting the local OSM community.  The OSM-F would be focussed on more
pan-OSM issues, like the ones explained above.

So far as the structure goes, I had thought that one GB org could work, if
it had a series of user groups associated with it.  The GB Chapter could
handle GB issues, raising funds to help support national and user group
activities, perhaps running a GB website, lobbying the UK government to
release data (!), and generally promoting OSM throughout the GB area.  The
user groups would be focussed on a more local area (eg Greater London) and
would be affiliated (loosely or more closely) to the GB Chapater.

Just some ideas - interested to hear your comments.

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Re: [Talk-GB] Isle of Wight 2

2009-06-02 Thread Nick Black
+1
addressing FTW

On Tue, Jun 2, 2009 at 12:01 AM, Mark Williams wrote:

> Peter Childs wrote:
> > 2009/6/1 SteveC :
> >> I'm tempted, but half the point is that we need to stop thinking that
> >> the IoW is mapped, without addresses or turn restrictions there's a
> >> long way to go.
> >>
> >> On 1 Jun 2009, at 10:53, Steve Chilton wrote:
> >>
> >>> Steve
> >>>
> >>> I would be very interested.
> >>> Would you consider pitching at somewhere "less mapped".
> >>> Parts of Devon/Cornwall spring to mind.
> >>>
> >
> > Mapping is NEVER finished, You can always fill in more gaps make some
> > updates etc etc. I think the point is that some places need more work
> > than others,  Is it better to map everywhere a bit or a few places
> > perfectly?
> >
> > Peter
>
> +1
>
> I spend a lot of weekends on the IOW.
> I still occasionally find a 'new' road - 2 in the last year - as well as
> loads of POI's. I wanted an ATM at the weekend - the nearest to Sandown
> is, allegedly, the TSB in Newport (which I placed some time ago).
>
> I think a showcase or two is important, and although I have had some
> impressive usage back from OSM there are always a few lacks anywhere,
> and the IOW is our 'first' big hit. Getting it modernised & filled in to
> what we might like to think of as a good up-to-date standard would help
> keep that position from looking a bit sad. I wouldn't like to find one
> of our flagships getting to look, well, poorly done, by comparison with
> any other mapping, or even our own elsewhere.
>
> BTW well done whoever caught up on the footpaths - I noticed a recent
> leap forward.
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] CLoudMade's launch tomorrow

2009-02-11 Thread Nick Black
Yes - all will be filmed, uploaded to YouTube, Vimeo and posted on the blog.
- http://blog.cloudmade.com


On Wed, Feb 11, 2009 at 9:41 PM, Thomas Wood wrote:

> I'm unfortunately unable to attend, would have liked to see what you
> guys have been getting up to :) , any chance of some of the demos
> being filmed?
>
> 2009/2/11 SteveC :
> > Come along!
> >
> >http://developer.cloudmade.com/events/email/ldn
> >
> >
> http://blog.cloudmade.com/2009/02/09/introducing-the-cloudmade-developer-zone/
> >
> > We'll be bring the launch to London this Thursday February 12th. There
> > will be keynotes, live demonstrations from CloudMade partners that
> > will include social networking, navigation, real estate, personal
> > tracking, fleet tracking applications and more. There are only a few
> > places left, so please sign-up now to avoid disappointment.
> >
> > The CloudMade Developer Zone has all the resources developers need to
> > get started building awesome location based applications
> >
> >
> >
> > Best
> >
> > Steve
> >
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[Talk-GB] GeoMob London: The newest Geo event in the capital

2009-01-09 Thread Nick Black
Hello,

I new event has sprung up in London that is focussed on Geo and Mobile
development and the intersection of the two.  The last event was hosted by
Google and was a lot of fun, the next event is on the 29th January and will
be hosted by Yahoo!  Confirmed speakers include the Google Geo Team and
Ruumble.

If you are interested in attending (there will be free Y!-Beer), take a look
here:

http://gmdlondon.ning.com/

The event's organiser, Chris Osbourne is always on the look out for people
to talk at the event, so anyone involved in OSM based projects who wants to
spread the word should defintinitely attend.

Best,




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Re: [Talk-GB] OS's home city (almost) mapped!

2008-12-13 Thread Nick Black
Nick - great work by all of the Southampton OSMers - especially you for
driving the mapping down there.  Have you thought about throwing a
completion party or putting together some publicity?  Make sure people know
the OS's home city is 100% osm'd

Best,



On Fri, Dec 12, 2008 at 6:07 PM, Nick Whitelegg  wrote:

> I think we're now in a position where the OS's home city of Southampton is
> (almost!) completely mapped. Exceptions are a number of roads with no
> visible street sign, and a few odd roads dotted here and there across the
> city that may have been missed out, but now that the unfeasibly huge
> Millbrook estate is done, no substantial areas need mapping
>
> Thanks to all who have contributed.
>
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[Talk-GB] Wales mapping action

2008-09-08 Thread Nick Black
Hello,

Its only a few days until the eagerly anticipated Welsh mapping
weekend. I don't know about you guys, but my preparations are well
underway - pumping bike tyres, charging batteries...  I have a few
ideas / questions:

* Where exactly is the cottage?  Is there an address / postcode?
* BBQ - how about a BBQ on the Sat evening or Sun afternoon?  It may
rain, but thanks to the awesomeness of cheap mass manufacturing, Argos
sell gazeebos for £9.99, which make a great BBQ shelter.  Its more fun
than cooking indoors and I bet there are some great butchers in the
area.
* Mapping planning - I've updated the wiki page to include a mapping
planning section to organise areas to map, preferred mapping regions
* Lifts - I can still give a lift from central London on the Friday
evening, returning Sunday evening.

Looking forward to a great weekend.


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Re: [Talk-GB] FW: BBC 'Britain From Above'

2008-08-03 Thread Nick Black
Very pretty - will be worth a watch.

 Wonder if they will acknowledge Cab Spotting
(http://cabspotting.org/), Aaron Koblin's Flight tracking
(http://www.aaronkoblin.com/work/flightpatterns/index.html), Steve and
Tom's ecourier animation
(http://www.ecourier.co.uk/media/eCourier_GPS.mpeg) as inspiration.



On Sun, Aug 3, 2008 at 4:13 AM, Paul Jaggard <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Interesting clip from the BBC:
> http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7539529.stm
>
> It's a plug for a programme, 'Britain From Above', which starts 10th August,
> but the trailer alone is worth watching for some lovely GPS-derived
> visualisations.
>
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> (aka southglos)
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[Talk-GB] OpenTech Conference in London this Saturday

2008-06-30 Thread Nick Black
Hello,

This Saturday its OpenTech 2008
(http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2008/), being held at the
University of London Union, Mallet Street, London.  The line-up looks
pretty cool and includes a session entitled "Overthrowing the
Government Using OpenSource" which will surely come in useful.  I'm
giving an update on OSM too.  More details:

http://www.ukuug.org/events/opentech2008/schedule/

Tickets are £5 & pre-registration is recommended.  Hope to see the
London OSM regulars & others there.


ULU - 
http://openstreetmap.org/?mlat=51.52242&mlon=-0.13104&zoom=16&layers=B00FTF

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Re: [Talk-GB] London Calling

2008-05-04 Thread Nick Black
On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 1:36 PM, 80n <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Sometimes I think it would be more useful for those people that do Yahoo
> tracing to concentrate on parks, lakes and buildings.  At least then we'd be
> more motivated to go out and survey these areas on the ground.
>
>  And how do you tag a road that definitely does not have a name?  name=no
> seems wrong somehow.  noname=yes perhaps.

We were talking about this on Wednesday after the London mapping
party.  If the renders suddenly stopped rendering roads with no name
tag, it could shake things up a bit.

>
> 80n
>
>
>
> On Sun, May 4, 2008 at 12:18 PM, SteveC <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > Dave has made this really nice map of london
> >
> >
> http://dev.openstreetmap.org/~random/progress/london-noname-exsegs-080430-mapnik.png
> >
> > white is unnamed roads / roads with name:FIXME
> > purple is unwayed segments.
> >
> > So London needs quite some work yet.
> >
> > If you live near any of the areas please help fix them, every road
> > counts. Come to one of the London mapping parties
> >
> >
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/London/Summer_2008_Mapping_Party_Marathon
> >
> > or set up one yourself!
> >
> >
> > Also if you're anywhere near Regents Park then there are areas just
> > East of it
> >
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52867&lon=-0.14189&zoom=16&layers=B0FT
> >
> > and just North
> >
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.53558&lon=-0.16674&zoom=16&layers=B0FT
> >
> > and West
> >
> >
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52483&lon=-0.17013&zoom=16&layers=B0FT
> >
> > that are quite incomplete.
> >
> > Best
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] Help with Dissertation on Open Street Map

2008-05-01 Thread Nick Black
Hi Angela,

Welcome to OSM.  Which university are you attached to?

Cheers,


On Thu, May 1, 2008 at 9:43 AM, Andy Robinson (blackadder)
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> Angela,
>
>  Welcome :-)
>
>  My suggestion would be to join one of the mapping party events running
>  around the UK. Several are already planned and there will be another half
>  dozen announced shortly running throughout the year in different locations.
>  You can find links/details of these in the calendar on the front page of the
>  wiki.
>
>  Cheers
>
>  Andy
>
>
>
>  >-Original Message-
>  >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:talk-gb-
>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Angela .E.
>  >Sent: 30 April 2008 11:32 PM
>  >To: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
>  >Subject: [Talk-GB] Help with Dissertation on Open Street Map
>  >
>  >Hi,
>  >
>  >My name is Angela and I will be working on the OpenStreetMap for my Masters
>  >Dissertation to research the Usability of the site - ie how usable is it
>  >and ways it can be improved but in order to do this, I will require your
>  >help, I will like to meet up with users of the site if possible to help
>  >introduce me to how to use the map (although i have had an initial play
>  >around) and how the outside user will interact with the site.
>  >
>  >Your help will be greatly appreciated. If you like to contact me, here is
>  >my email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >
>  >Thanks,
>  >
>  >
>  >Angela Egbunu
>  >
>  >
>  >
>  >
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Re: [Talk-GB] Summer 2008 London Mapping Marathon

2008-04-20 Thread Nick Black
Great Shaun - this is just what we need to get London complete by the
end of the summer.

On Fri, Apr 18, 2008 at 11:39 PM, Shaun McDonald
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>
>  In my move to London, I've come to realise how large and unmapped the
>  city is (apart from being Yahoo traced).
>
>  I'm going to be organising a series of mini mapping parties
>  fortnightly on a Wednesday evening. The first one will be in just over
>  a week, on Wednesday 30th April 2008, meeting at Stockwell Tube
>  Station, between 17:30 and 18:30. I will have a series of zoom 17 maps
>  printed out of the surrounding area printed out. I'm looking at
>  getting, not just streets named, but points of interest added to OSM.
>  It is very useful to know where the nearest post box, post office,
>  bike shop, toucan crossing, or more importantly bicycle parking, and
>  station platforms.
>
>  More information is available from
>  
> <http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/London/Summer_2008_Mapping_Party_Marathon
>   >
>
>  Shaun
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Re: [Talk-GB] [OSM-talk] Birmingham mapping party - Radio Interview today

2008-04-08 Thread Nick Black
Great interview!

On Tue, Apr 8, 2008 at 6:32 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Steve Chilton [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
>  >Sent: 08 April 2008 2:38 PM
>  >To: Steve Chilton; Andy Robinson (blackadder); talk-gb@openstreetmap.org;
>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >Subject: RE: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Birmingham mapping party - Radio
>  >Interview today
>  >
>
> >Nice one Andy! Came across really well. Hope we get some local takeup for
>  >the weekend mapping party.
>  >After his reference to the QI item in lead-up I couldn't help think of the
>  >QI moment when Stephen Fry asked panel to say what map of the UK would
>  >cost. Alan Davies answered £4-99, to which Fry responded something on lines
>  >of "Close. Well, I meant the whole OS Mastermap database of UK, which would
>  >co(a)st you something like 4.99 million pounds".
>  >
>
>  Cheers Steve, It was fun.
>
>  Matthew Gates kindly did a recording, available here for those that missed
>  the live feed. http://porpoisehead.net/hi/?q=node/35
>
>  Cheers
>
>  Andy
>
>
>
>  >Cheers
>  >STEVE
>  >
>  >Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
>  >Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager
>  >School of Health and Social Sciences
>  >Middlesex University
>  >phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
>  >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  >Chair of the Society of Cartographers: http://www.soc.org.uk/
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>  >SoC conference 2008:
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>  >Sent: 08 April 2008 13:54
>  >To: Andy Robinson (blackadder); talk-gb@openstreetmap.org;
>  >[EMAIL PROTECTED]
>  >Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] [Talk-GB] Birmingham mapping party - Radio
>  >Interview today
>  >
>  >Definitely happening - being trailered right now, by a guy who sounds as
>  >though he knows nothing!
>  >
>  >Steve Chilton, Learning Support Fellow
>  >Learning and Technical Support Unit Manager
>  >School of Health and Social Sciences
>  >Middlesex University
>  >phone/fax: 020 8411 5355
>  >email: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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>  >-Original Message-
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>  >(blackadder)
>  >Sent: 08 April 2008 10:29
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>  >For those interested I'm expecting to go into BBC WM local radio to do a
>  >live interview at 14:10ish BST today. Part of the Les Ross show.
>  >
>  >http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/aod/wm.shtml to listen live
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Re: [Talk-GB] OpenStreetMap - Reminder - South Birmingham Mapping Party - 12/13 April

2008-04-04 Thread Nick Black
On Fri, Apr 4, 2008 at 9:28 PM, Andy Robinson (blackadder)
<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi there,

This should be a great party - looking forward to it!

>
>  Apologies for the cross posting. I know there are quite a number of
>  Wolverhampton/Birmingham LUGgers with an OpenStreetMap interest as well as
>  the local OSMers.
>
>  A reminder that next weekend's mapping party based out of Kings Heath is
>  shaping up to be a great event. We are being hosted at the Kitchen Garden
>  café in York Road, Kings Heath. Group meet-ups at 10:00 and 14:00 both days
>  (for hardened mappers there will be someone around from 9:30 on Saturday if
>  you want to sign up for an area and get out before the crowd)
>
>  A film is being made of the event by Tom Black, brother of Nick Black.
>  Should be cool :-)

So if you want your 5 minutes of OSM fame, have been working on
something cool that you want profiled, or have some strange mapping
stories to tell, this is your chance.

>
>  You might be interested in the attached pdf, which is an 8-fold flyer that
>  looks great when printed off on a colour inkjet printer. Slice off the white
>  borders and fold and you can give the credit card sized flyer away to your
>  friends. No more having to explain what OSM is all about.
>
>  Hope to see loads of you there next weekend. It's going to be a blast.
>  If you can let us know via the wiki or an email back to me if you plan on
>  coming. It helps with the organisation on the day.
>
>  Cheers
>
>  Andy Robinson
>  0777 553 7872
>
>  http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Birmingham_Mapping_Party
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[Talk-GB] South East London Mapping Party Reminder

2008-01-25 Thread Nick Black
Hello,

Quick reminder about the South East London Mapping Party this Saturday
(tomorrow).

* Meet at 10am Cafe Uno, Blackheath
* Lunch 1-2pm
* Pub 6pm onwards

More details on the wiki:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/South_East_London_Mapping_Party

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Re: [Talk-GB] South East London Mapping Party 26th Jan 2008

2008-01-15 Thread Nick Black
Yeah, if there's interest I'll turn up.

On Jan 15, 2008 9:33 AM, Tom Chance <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Ahoy,
>
> On Tue, 2008-01-15 at 09:03 +, Nick Black wrote:
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/South_East_London_Mapping_Party
> >
> > Saturday 26th January, Blackheath, London.
>
> Would anyone want to extend it to the Sunday as well? I'm busy on
> Saturday but would like to lug over from my little stronghold in Peckham
> to help out.
>
> Kind regards,
> Tom
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[Talk-GB] South East London Mapping Party 26th Jan 2008

2008-01-15 Thread Nick Black
Hello,

Its the first mapping party of the year:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/South_East_London_Mapping_Party

Saturday 26th January, Blackheath, London.

"Come map the wide streets of Blackheath, absorb the culture of
Lewisham, discover what difference a datum makes in Greenwhich - The
OpenStreetMap South East London Fill in the Blanks Mapping Party,
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Re: [Talk-GB] oxford uni is not using OSM anymore

2007-12-12 Thread Nick Black
Is there someone from Oxford University who can shed some light on the
real reason for the decision to/not to use OSM?  I've tried to get in
touch via the website, but got directed to an external company who
haven't replied.


On Dec 12, 2007 11:49 AM, Artem Pavlenko <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> On 12 Dec 2007, at 10:48, Matthew Westcott wrote:
>
> > On 11 Dec 2007, at 18:14, Artem Pavlenko wrote:
> >
> >> Hello,
> >>
> >> It looks like Oxford university dropped OSM in favor of Google Maps.
> >> I wonder why?
> >> Has anyone got any insights?
> >
> > Hi,
> > I've not been involved in the OU website myself, but I know a few
> > people who are...
>
> Hi Matthew,
> >
> > Apparently it was mostly down to organisational reasons - we
> > reluctantly changed it on their behalf, as two members of OUCS staff
> > had invested time in the OXPOINTS project and wanted to put it to
> > use: http://www.oucs.ox.ac.uk/oxpoints/
>
> Understand. Still, OSM has more up-to-date mapping of Oxford and
> university (buildings,walks).
> Could having an optional OSM layer on Google Maps interface be a
> solution?  It's trivial to implement and I'm happy to help;)
> For an example see: http://media.mapnik.org/oxford-osm.html.
>
> > As a secondary reason, there were reports that OSM "felt slower" than
> > Google - whatever that might mean.
>
> I'm not sure either. Could be OpenLayers vs GMap JavaScript.
>
> >
> > - Matthew
> > (developer at Torchbox and part-time Charlbury Code Ninja)
>
> Artem
> (who thinks OUCS should use OSM)
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[Talk-GB] Come for a drink on the 20th December

2007-12-11 Thread Nick Black
Hello,

If you missed the fake inviation, here is a real one.  All osmers are
invited to ZXV's christmas party on the 20th December in Putney, which
is basically just going to the pub earlier than usual - there should a
good crowd there.  Last year steve dressed up as father christmas,
worth it for that alone.

http://www.zxv.ltd.uk/2007/12/06/zxv-christmas-drinks/

venue tbc

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Re: [Talk-GB] Conflicting tagging of london undergound stations

2007-09-19 Thread Nick Black
On 9/19/07, Robert (Jamie) Munro <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE-
> Hash: SHA1
>
> Nick Black wrote:
> > On 9/19/07, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >>
> >> It should be railway=subway of course, not railway=rail.
> >
> > Not if the line isn't subterranean.
>
> I think that the whole underground system should be railway=subway, and
> for clarity, tunnel=yes or tunnel=no should always also be used. I guess
> the default assumption by renderers could be tunnel=yes, but I'm not sure.
>
> The reason is that if a renderer had a style for Subway stations, and
> another style for long distance rail, the whole underground should be
> shown as subway stations, not differently for different stations.

I agree with the outcome, but not the reasoning.  I think its a
mistake to justify tagging by the outcome of rendering.  The
introduction of Mapnik and the proliferation of the Osmarender have
done a lot to encourage standards within tagging - but we need to look
beyond rendering.  If I want to select all of the ways that belong to
the london underground system, its not particularly straightforward.
>From this point of view, the values of k=v are not significant - its
the real-world representation of the objects they represent that
matters.

>
> Robert (Jamie) Munro
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Re: [Talk-GB] Conflicting tagging of london undergound stations

2007-09-19 Thread Nick Black
There's a lot of confusion here.  I'll think about this and make a
feature proposal, then look at planet and unify the tagging.

On 9/19/07, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>   "Nick Black" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > On 9/19/07, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > Nick Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > >
> > > > If I change all occurrences of tube= to line= , is this going to ruin
> > > > anyone's day?  We could then additionally add something like this to
> > > > identify London Underground stations:
> > > >
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >
> > > > My thinking here is that k='line' is generic/international and can 
> > > > equally
> > > > be applied to other rail networks.  How does this sound?
> > >
> > > I think I just used name="Central Line" for the eastern end of
> > > the Central Line when I was tidying that up.
> > >
> > > It should be railway=subway of course, not railway=rail.
> >
> > Not if the line isn't subterranean.
>
> When I asked on IRC before the conclusion was to still mark it as
> subway in that case, but to add tunnel=yes to the subterranean bits.
>
> Tom
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Re: [Talk-GB] Conflicting tagging of london undergound stations

2007-09-19 Thread Nick Black
On 9/19/07, Tom Hughes <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> In message <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Nick Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> > If I change all occurrences of tube= to line= , is this going to ruin
> > anyone's day?  We could then additionally add something like this to
> > identify London Underground stations:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> >
> > My thinking here is that k='line' is generic/international and can equally
> > be applied to other rail networks.  How does this sound?
>
> I think I just used name="Central Line" for the eastern end of
> the Central Line when I was tidying that up.
>
> It should be railway=subway of course, not railway=rail.

Not if the line isn't subterranean.


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Re: [Talk-GB] Conflicting tagging of london undergound lines

2007-09-19 Thread Nick Black
Edited the subject to reflect what I actually mean.

On 9/19/07, Michael Collinson <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> At 04:40 PM 9/19/2007, Nick Black wrote:
> >My thinking here is that k='line' is generic/international and can
> >equally be applied to other rail networks.  How does this sound?
>
>
> Yes, 'line' would work well internationally for both subway and
> regular railway systems. Japanese, for example, translates directly.
>
> Mike
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[Talk-GB] Conflicting tagging of london undergound stations

2007-09-19 Thread Nick Black
There seems to be no agreed way to tag the London Underground, resulting in:


http://openstreetmap.org/api/0.4/way/4008385
&
http://openstreetmap.org/api/0.4/way/4008533

If I change all occurrences of tube= to line= , is this going to ruin
anyone's day?  We could then additionally add something like this to
identify London Underground stations:







My thinking here is that k='line' is generic/international and can equally
be applied to other rail networks.  How does this sound?



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Re: [Talk-GB] Leeds Mapping Party Sept 15-16

2007-09-11 Thread Nick Black
Good work chippy.  The wiki could use some more lat and lons though.  I'll
try and get a few from OSM.



On 9/11/07, tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> We have an upgrade for the venue for Sunday, the brand new Old
> Broadcasting House, opposite the Fenton Pub, just a little way up from
> the main Leeds Met location. [1]
>
> Also, I've linked to the press release on the wiki. Richard Hamer from
> BlueSky PR re-wrote our template and made it a bit better :)
>
> Cheers,
>
> Tim
>
>
>
> [1]
> http://www.multimap.com/maps/#t=l&map=53.80566,-1.54859|16|4&loc=GB:53.80566:-1.54859:16|LS2%209PN|LS2%209PN
>
> On 9/7/07, Nick Black <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Curry is 100% necessary.  Show the southerners what a real naan bread
> > looks like.
> >
> > On 9/7/07, tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > > Ideally lat/longs for these places would be good.
> > >
> > > Good idea, I'll add them to the wiki.
> > >
> > > > Also, edit the press release off the party howto and send it to
> local
> > > > papers / radio?
> > >
> > > Yep, Richard Hamer from Blue Sky PR has done such a thing for us, and
> > > we will be sending to the local media today :)
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Re: [Talk-GB] Leeds Mapping Party Sept 15-16

2007-09-07 Thread Nick Black
Curry is 100% necessary.  Show the southerners what a real naan bread
looks like.

On 9/7/07, tim <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > Ideally lat/longs for these places would be good.
>
> Good idea, I'll add them to the wiki.
>
> > Also, edit the press release off the party howto and send it to local
> > papers / radio?
>
> Yep, Richard Hamer from Blue Sky PR has done such a thing for us, and
> we will be sending to the local media today :)
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[Talk-GB] Getting a Load of CDs printed

2007-08-21 Thread Nick Black
Hello,

I want to get around 100 of OSM live CDs printed.  I want them to have
nice labels rather than have bits of paper stuck on with glue.
Ideally the front would have a logo, and there would be a small paper
insert with some more details on it.

Has anyone had CDs printed before?  Or can anyone recommend a friend
who does this sort of thing.  Any pointers appreciated.

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Re: [Talk-GB] PD London Tube Stations

2007-08-16 Thread Nick Black
Yeah - this is super cool - esp as its PD.  I blogged about it this
evening and I've made a CSV.  There's a shapefile to follow, but gdal
isn't playing nicely :( .

http://www.blacksworld.net/blog/?p=124


On 8/16/07, Steve Coast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 16 Aug 2007, at 15:59, Grant Slater wrote:
>
> > GB,
> >
> > The Public Domain OpenStreetMap list of London Tube Stations is now
> > complete.
> >
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/London_Tube_Stations
> >
> > The list still needs to be double checked and some of the stations
> > still
> > need to be imported into the main OSM database.
> >
> > Congratulations to all those involved.
>
> awsomz
>
> >
> > Worthwhile putting out a mini OSM press release? (We should do more of
> > these)
>
> one for richard?
>
> >
> > Regards
> > Grant
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Re: [Talk-GB] gps units & mapping parties this month

2007-08-13 Thread Nick Black
Dan: I will bring the units over for the IoM.

On 8/13/07, Steve Coast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
>
> On 13 Aug 2007, at 11:02, Dan Karran wrote:
>
> > On 8/13/07, Steve Coast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >> I have most of the GPS units.
> >>
> >> I have funding to pay for beer etc for ONE party this month. I had
> >> said the SW mapping party for this, but it doesn't seem to be a big
> >> deal - only a few people in a tiny town. If that's the case, it won't
> >> need the units and they can go to the Isle of Man (which clashes) and
> >> the funding can go to Edinburgh this weekend? Or the units can be
> >> split up or something.
> >>
> >> Not trying to play favourite here - just need some help as I have all
> >> (minus one that andy has) the units and the £££ and I want to use
> >> them as best as possible :-)
> >>
> >> Also please fill out the units request wiki page http://
> >> wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/GPS_Units_for_Loan
> >
> > I've added the IOM party to the list there... would it be possible to
> > borrow a handful of the units for that? (Nick, would you be able to
> > take them over?) I don't think we'd need that many of them, but a few
> > would be very handy to have.
>
> should be fine
>
> >
> >
> > Cheers,
> > Dan
> >
> > --
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Re: [Talk-GB] Future UK mapping parties

2007-07-16 Thread Nick Black
Chippy has leeds pencelled in for September.

Chippy: is it the 15th and 16th you are aiming for?

On 7/16/07, Nick Whitelegg <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hello everyone,
>
> The mapping party list for the UK for the rest of the summer, and indeed
> the autumn, is looking a little sparse so I'd like to suggest a few more.
> The first two are possibles whilst the third is more definite and I can
> probably get a venue through people from work.
>
> * Following a discussion between myself and David Groom, Isle of Wight
> Mapping Party II : the Paths, likely to take place September. Like the
> Lake District this will be very much an off road event, appealing to
> walkers and off road cyclists.
>
> * Isle of Purbeck (near Bournemouth). Hilly area to the south of
> Bournemouth with some dramatic coastline, at its best in the summer so I'd
> be thinking of August or September. There are some towns so this could be
> suitable for all modes of transport.
>
> Please let me know if you're interested in one or both of these.
>
> I'd also like to propose a more definite mapping party for Winchester
> (Hampshire). A historic city with lots of nice tree lined streets but a
> big blank on the otherwise good OSM coverage of South Hampshire, this
> would make a good mapping party for the early autumn when it's still
> fairly warm and the trees are starting to turn. There's a good chance I
> can get a venue for this through people at work. Will speak to them about
> it and try and fix a date.
>
> Nick
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Re: [Talk-GB] Edinburgh

2007-06-05 Thread Nick Black

A mapping party would be cool.  August maybe?


Donald <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Hi,

On 5 Jun 2007, at 13:51, Daniel Glassey wrote:

> Hi,
> I can't remember who has been doing Edinburgh but there is a talk
> about OSM at Debconf[1], the Debian conference. afair it is on 18th
> June. Sometime during the week following that it would be great if a
> group of us could help with mapping.

Looking at the calendar on the wiki there is Chris Fleming who is
going to talk to the Edinburgh Linux Users Group on June 7th. Your
event doesn't appear to be in the calendar. [0]

I'm currently in Sighthill in the west of the city. [1] Going by
JOSM, I'm currently one of the main mappers. I should have time and
space here, if you need wifi/power/shelter.

Currently there is no real strategy in Edinburgh as far as I'm aware.
The wiki page is very out of date. [2]

>
> For the folks there in Edinburgh what is the best thing we can help
> with - most people will be on foot and public transport? And will you
> be able to get along and help?

There are a lot of areas that have segment, but no ways. I have been
going through many of them and turning them into ways so that they
show up on the map. However I have not been naming them. It would be
a good thing to get them named, and this would be able to be done by
those who don't have GPSs. The areas that I know of that need
wayified,  names added or more work to tidy them up are primarily:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?
lat=55.924773895703304&lon=-3.2984263206919593&zoom=16
http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?
lat=55.933116488584076&lon=-3.307052303015519&zoom=15
http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?
lat=55.95445765446907&lon=-3.301902462822349&zoom=14
http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?
lat=55.96082408005075&lon=-3.2016093250603617&zoom=15
http://www.informationfreeway.org/?
lat=55.981773200814416&lon=-3.2022135474480926&zoom=14&layers=B000T00

Search for name FIXME and use the maplint layer on the
informationfreeway are my recommendations for finding some areas that
need some TLC. The very city centre seems to be well covered.

http://www.informationfreeway.org/?
lat=55.981773200814416&lon=-3.2022135474480926&zoom=14&layers=B000T00
has an issue with the docks, that I'm not sure how to fix.

The main public transport company in the Edinburgh area is Lothian
Buses [3]. They have a flash route map which is useful, and fairly
cheap day tickets. [4]

Shaun
[]

[0]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Template:Calendar
[1]: http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?
lat=55.919603952774914&lon=-3.28480070184753&zoom=15
[2]: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/Edinburgh
[3]: http://www.lothianbuses.co.uk/
[4]: http://www.lothianbuses.co.uk/routemap.shtml and http://
www.lothianbuses.co.uk/tickets.shtml
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[Talk-GB] Fwd: [Geowanking] Hack Day in London

2007-05-09 Thread Nick Black

Apparently some of us are going ;-)

Shame its on the same weekend as the Richmond Mapping party.

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From: Tom Coates <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Date: May 9, 2007 4:46 PM
Subject: [Geowanking] Hack Day in London
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Hey,

I checked with Joshua and he seemed to think that this would be okay.
If it's not, really sorry.

I'm just here to let people know about the BBC/Yahoo Hack Day event
that's happening in London's Alexandra Palace on the 16th and 17th of
June. It's focused on five hundred people building and making things
for a couple of days, with the organisations having some talks on
APIs and services on the Saturday morning and a band on the Sunday.

There are a bunch of geo people coming along including people from
Open Street Map and a bunch of the Flickr crew including Dan Catt
from geobloggers, Cal Henderson and Aaron Straupe Cope. Should be
quite good fun.

Anyway, if anyone's got any questions about the event, ask on-list or
e-mail me at tom {at} plasticbag {dot} org.

That's all

Tom
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[Talk-GB] Mapping Party Reminder - South East Tip - Canterbury and Kent

2007-05-09 Thread Nick Black

A quick reminder of the next UK based mapping party, which will be based
around the towns and villages of Kent.

The plan is to meet at Meet in Cafe Nero, 4 High St, Canterbury, Kent, CT1
2SA at *10:00am*-
here<http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?mlat=51.279568&mlon=1.079772&zoom=17>on
the slippy map.  From there we'll move out and survey the surrounding
towns and countryside before meeting at Ye Old Beverly [1] around 6pm.


[1]
http://www.openstreetmap.org/index.html?lat=51.2902436139563&lon=1.0774826985217754&zoom=16

See the wiki page for deatils:

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/South_East_Tip


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[Talk-GB] OpenID - London Ruby User Group

2007-05-01 Thread Nick Black

Will Open ID save all of our woes - who knows?  There was talk in Essen that
someone should sort out openID for OSM and unify all the logons.  The London
Ruby User Group are presenting about openID on the 14th May.  I might go to
it - and if any other OSM developers fancy coming along, let me know.

http://lists.lrug.org/pipermail/chat-lrug.org/2007-May/001147.html


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[Talk-GB] SE Kent Mapping Party

2007-04-30 Thread Nick Black

OpenStreetMap is coming to the South-East of England.

When:  Sat 12th - Sun 13th May

Where: Canterbury and surrounding villages

See: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/South_East_Tip

Hope to see as many of you as possible there.

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Re: [Talk-GB] UK dev day - venue confirmed

2007-04-25 Thread Nick Black

Thats fantastic news, cheers Jamie.

On 4/25/07, Richard Fairhurst <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:


Thanks to Jamie Munro, we now have a venue for the UK developers' day.

Date: 5th May, i.e. a week on Saturday.

Venue: St Aldates conference room, 40 Pembroke Street, Oxford.

Map:
<
http://www.informationfreeway.org/?lat=6755149.43802&lon=-139972.88905&zoom=16&layers=B000
>

Wiki page:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/index.php/UK_Developers%27_Workshop

PBAlaptop.

cheers
Richard


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