Re: [Talk-GB] Building with mapseg

2010-06-01 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 29 May 2010 20:31, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote:
 Hi all,

 I have updated the code and put out a new version of mapseg (now v0.2).
 As Roy Jamison discovered, the previous version was broken by upper case
 filenames. The program is now case insensitive to that. Available here:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapseg

Is there an easy way to find the tile reference for a given area. I
have found what I need so far by trial and error, but with 400 tiles
it can be a bit of a pain.

-- 
Philip Stubbs

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[Talk-GB] Building with mapseg

2010-06-01 Thread TimSC


Is there an easy way to find the tile reference for a given area. I
have found what I need so far by trial and error, but with 400 tiles
it can be a bit of a pain.

--
Philip Stubbs
   

Philip,

A quick sketch on the method to go from tile filename to coordinates. 
Say we use the filen//ame su85se.tiff. The su part, the 85 part and 
the se part each give a different northing and easting offset. The 
must be summed to get the final bottom left corner position.


The first offset is basically coarse grid letter offset and is found in 
a look up table. The codes are arranged like this: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:National_Grid_for_Great_Britain_with_central_meridian.gif


The 85 is an intermediate offset, I think it is 8x1 metres east 
and 5x1 metres north.


The final code can be se, sw, ne, nw for a fine tile offset. The n 
sheets are offset north by 5000m. The e sheets are offset east by 5000m.


Each tile is 5000m by 5000m, as far as I remember so you can get the 
coordinates of the other corners.


Re-reading your question, I guess you really want the inverse of what I 
just described? I hope that helps a little anyway.


TimSC

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Re: [Talk-GB] Building with mapseg

2010-06-01 Thread Philip Stubbs
On 1 June 2010 15:43, TimSC mapp...@sheerman-chase.org.uk wrote:
 Is there an easy way to find the tile reference for a given area. I
 have found what I need so far by trial and error, but with 400 tiles
 it can be a bit of a pain.

 --
 Philip Stubbs


 Philip,

 A quick sketch on the method to go from tile filename to coordinates. Say we
 use the filename su85se.tiff. The su part, the 85 part and the se part
 each give a different northing and easting offset. The must be summed to get
 the final bottom left corner position.

 The first offset is basically coarse grid letter offset and is found in a
 look up table. The codes are arranged like this:
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:National_Grid_for_Great_Britain_with_central_meridian.gif

 The 85 is an intermediate offset, I think it is 8x1 metres east and
 5x1 metres north.

 The final code can be se, sw, ne, nw for a fine tile offset. The n sheets
 are offset north by 5000m. The e sheets are offset east by 5000m.

 Each tile is 5000m by 5000m, as far as I remember so you can get the
 coordinates of the other corners.

 Re-reading your question, I guess you really want the inverse of what I just
 described? I hope that helps a little anyway.

 TimSC

Thanks Tim.

I had worked out that there was some logic to the tile numbers. Having
downloaded the tiles for SU, I wanted to find the tile that contained
Warsash. Each tile only covers a small area, so I opened tiles until I
recognised an area. Then I tried others near that one to see which way
they went. Now I have found Warsash, I can work my may through that
tile and the ones beside it with ease. I really asked the question for
when or if others start to use the tiles also.

Regards,
-- 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Building with mapseg

2010-05-29 Thread Roy Jamison
Hi all,
Just tested the raw output of this, and (without being flamed) have
uploaded a few of these tile outputs to OSM on the Isle of Sheppey.
Don't worry guys I have every intention of checking the entire island as
I live here anyway, so will check alignments, etc. It is in my opinion
as the only heavily active local local to the island that some
buildings are better than none, and I did scan through the output
briefly in JOSM and it looked extremely good!!
The problem I'm having is with the SV data and mapseg. In particular the
TR06NE.tif and TR06NW.tif tiles. For some strange reason, the .osm
output files from mapseg are shifted to Faversham, about 5-10 miles
south of where they should be. Any idea how to rectify this as I'm not
too good with python.
Thank you :)


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[Talk-GB] Building with mapseg

2010-05-29 Thread TimSC
Hi all,

I have updated the code and put out a new version of mapseg (now v0.2). 
As Roy Jamison discovered, the previous version was broken by upper case 
filenames. The program is now case insensitive to that. Available here: 
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mapseg

I also considered the problem of importing buildings into an area 
already containing building data. We obviously don't want overlaps. I 
created a python script to remove duplicate buildings before uploading. 
This enables building imports into partially mapped areas and also 
incremental imports. (Details on the wiki.)

Roy has been importing data in his area, it will probably take weeks to 
polish that data! Good luck with that! In my experience, about 10% of 
polygons are incorrect but flagged by the mapseg program for correction. 
The remaining 90% are pretty good but not as good as doing it manually, 
of course.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.43458lon=0.764zoom=15layers=0B00FTF

Here is an area I have imported and manually refined to be correct with 
OS street view:

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.26083lon=-0.61877zoom=17layers=B000FTF 


And here is an area I imported and corrected based on the surrey air 
survey.

http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.2455lon=-0.59884zoom=17layers=0B00FTF 


So many options to choose from...

TimSC

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