Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
Sorry if I did not make myself clear enough.  (Every day is a new learning 
opportunity!)

At least it's good to know that I have not broken the system :-)

Regards,Peter 

On Monday, 27 April 2020, 11:24:14 BST, Andy Townsend  
wrote:  
 
  On 27/04/2020 11:16, Peter Neale wrote:
  
 
  It seems that we have had 2 of us attempting the same change at the same 
time. 

 
 
Generally speaking, IRC's better for this sort of request as everyone sees 
what's happening in real time
 
 
   I hope that the database change  control can cope with this. 

 
It can - multiple deletion requests will just be ignored
 
 
> I did try to avoid such a clash by responding here before starting work.
 
I've clearly been working with people from the Netherlands and Germany too long 
:)  - I didn't interpret "I think that I understand the issue ... A solution 
may be ... I am happy to spend a while trying this" as "I'm doing it NOW".
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Andy Townsend 

On 27/04/2020 11:16, Peter Neale wrote:
It seems that we have had 2 of us attempting the same change at the 
same time.



Generally speaking, IRC's better for this sort of request as everyone 
sees what's happening in real time




I hope that the database change  control can cope with this.


It can - multiple deletion requests will just be ignored

> I did try to avoid such a clash by responding here before starting 
work.


I've clearly been working with people from the Netherlands and Germany 
too long :)  - I didn't interpret "I think that I understand the issue 
... A solution may be ... I am happy to spend a while trying this" as 
"I'm doing it NOW".


Best Regards,

Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
Noted.  I have been careful to separate the ways sharing points and only delete 
the way in question.
Regards,Peter
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On Monday, 27 April 2020, 10:56:40 BST, Jez Nicholson 
 wrote:  
 
 Note that the vast majority of the points in the Way were pre-existing. Any 
fix should leave them in place.
On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM nathan case  wrote:


I’m fairly sure Potlach (assuming you want to tackle this via a browser editor) 
allows you to delete larger areas in one go – rather than deleting point by 
point.

 

Cheers.

 

From: Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 10:43 AM
To: Talk-GB ; Jez Nicholson 
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

 

I think that I understand the issue.  A solution may be to delete individual 
points until the whole way is small enough to be shown on a screen at editable 
zoom.  

 

I am happy to spend a while trying this, but it is probably best if only one of 
us is stirring the pot at once.

 

Regards,

Peter

 

 

 

On Monday, 27 April 2020, 10:32:44 BST, Jez Nicholson  
wrote:

 

 

A new user has created a new way in Brighton to indicate the Hollingbury 
residential error https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/785162533 They freely admit 
their error but are unable to remove it, as am I. Would anyone be able to 
assist please?

 

I only have anecdotal evidence (like this one) but it seems that a 'new user 
thing to do' is to 'correct my local area'. Might be another reason to lock 
boundaries from new user changes?

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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Jez Nicholson 
A big thank you form me to everyone who sorted this out :)

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 11:19 AM Andy Townsend  wrote:

> On 27/04/2020 11:09, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:
>
> I THINK I have done it.
>
> It took a bit of fiddling to separate some shared points, but then I was
> able to cut the offending line and delete a section at a time (which fitted
> on the screen).
>
> That definitely sounds like "the hard way" :)
>
> It would probably have worked (apart from the orphan nodes).
>
> I hope that I have not disturbed anything else in the process.
>
> I don't think so - you can see the changes here:
>
> https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=84190221
>
> Best Regards,
>
> Andy
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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
It seems that we have had 2 of us attempting the same change at the same time.  
I hope that the database change  control can cope with this.
I did try to avoid such a clash by responding here before starting work.

Regards,Peter


On Monday, 27 April 2020, 11:12:59 BST, Andy Townsend  
wrote:  
 
  On 27/04/2020 10:56, Jez Nicholson wrote:
  
 
Note that the vast majority of the points in the Way were pre-existing. Any fix 
should leave them in place. 
  On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM nathan case  wrote:
  
   
I’m fairly sure Potlach (assuming you want to tackle this via a browser editor) 
allows you to delete larger areas in one go – rather than deleting point by 
point.
 
   
  
I believe I've resolved this in 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/84189877 - please let us know if all is 
OK.
 
 
For completeness, that was done in JOSM using the reverter plugin.  It also 
deleted the three extra nodes added in 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/82728827 .
 
Potlatch 2 would also have worked, but I'd have needed to delete the 3 new 
nodes separately.
 
Some combination of  "revert.pl" "undo.pl" and/or "delete.pl" in the OSM revert 
scripts https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Revert_scripts would have worked, 
but I'd have needed to explicitly say "yes please delete the new way and the 3 
new nodes".
 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Andy Townsend 

On 27/04/2020 11:09, Peter Neale via Talk-GB wrote:

I THINK I have done it.

It took a bit of fiddling to separate some shared points, but then I 
was able to cut the offending line and delete a section at a time 
(which fitted on the screen).



That definitely sounds like "the hard way" :)

It would probably have worked (apart from the orphan nodes).


I hope that I have not disturbed anything else in the process.


I don't think so - you can see the changes here:

https://overpass-api.de/achavi/?changeset=84190221

Best Regards,

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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Andy Townsend 

On 27/04/2020 10:56, Jez Nicholson wrote:
Note that the vast majority of the points in the Way were 
pre-existing. Any fix should leave them in place.


On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM nathan case > wrote:


I’m fairly sure Potlach (assuming you want to tackle this via a
browser editor) allows you to delete larger areas in one go –
rather than deleting point by point.


I believe I've resolved this in 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/84189877 - please let us know if 
all is OK.


For completeness, that was done in JOSM using the reverter plugin.  It 
also deleted the three extra nodes added in 
https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/82728827 .


Potlatch 2 would also have worked, but I'd have needed to delete the 3 
new nodes separately.


Some combination of  "revert.pl" "undo.pl" and/or "delete.pl" in the OSM 
revert scripts https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Revert_scripts would 
have worked, but I'd have needed to explicitly say "yes please delete 
the new way and the 3 new nodes".


Best Regards,

Andy


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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
I THINK I have done it.  
It took a bit of fiddling to separate some shared points, but then I was able 
to cut the offending line and delete a section at a time (which fitted on the 
screen).
I hope that I have not disturbed anything else in the process.  
Regards,Peter
 Peter Neale 
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m: 07968 341930 
skype: nealepb 

On Monday, 27 April 2020, 10:44:26 BST, Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
 wrote:  
 
 I think that I understand the issue.  A solution may be to delete individual 
points until the whole way is small enough to be shown on a screen at editable 
zoom.  
I am happy to spend a while trying this, but it is probably best if only one of 
us is stirring the pot at once.
Regards,Peter


On Monday, 27 April 2020, 10:32:44 BST, Jez Nicholson 
 wrote:  
 
 A new user has created a new way in Brighton to indicate the Hollingbury 
residential error https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/785162533 They freely admit 
their error but are unable to remove it, as am I. Would anyone be able to 
assist please?
I only have anecdotal evidence (like this one) but it seems that a 'new user 
thing to do' is to 'correct my local area'. Might be another reason to lock 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Jez Nicholson 
Note that the vast majority of the points in the Way were pre-existing. Any
fix should leave them in place.

On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 10:54 AM nathan case  wrote:

> I’m fairly sure Potlach (assuming you want to tackle this via a browser
> editor) allows you to delete larger areas in one go – rather than deleting
> point by point.
>
>
>
> Cheers.
>
>
>
> *From:* Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
> *Sent:* Monday, April 27, 2020 10:43 AM
> *To:* Talk-GB ; Jez Nicholson <
> jez.nichol...@gmail.com>
> *Subject:* Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?
>
>
>
> I think that I understand the issue.  A solution may be to delete
> individual points until the whole way is small enough to be shown on a
> screen at editable zoom.
>
>
>
> I am happy to spend a while trying this, but it is probably best if only
> one of us is stirring the pot at once.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Peter
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Monday, 27 April 2020, 10:32:44 BST, Jez Nicholson <
> jez.nichol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> A new user has created a new way in Brighton to indicate the Hollingbury
> residential error https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/785162533 They freely
> admit their error but are unable to remove it, as am I. Would anyone be
> able to assist please?
>
>
>
> I only have anecdotal evidence (like this one) but it seems that a 'new
> user thing to do' is to 'correct my local area'. Might be another reason to
> lock boundaries from new user changes?
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread nathan case 
I’m fairly sure Potlach (assuming you want to tackle this via a browser editor) 
allows you to delete larger areas in one go – rather than deleting point by 
point.

Cheers.

From: Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
Sent: Monday, April 27, 2020 10:43 AM
To: Talk-GB ; Jez Nicholson 
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

I think that I understand the issue.  A solution may be to delete individual 
points until the whole way is small enough to be shown on a screen at editable 
zoom.

I am happy to spend a while trying this, but it is probably best if only one of 
us is stirring the pot at once.

Regards,
Peter



On Monday, 27 April 2020, 10:32:44 BST, Jez Nicholson 
mailto:jez.nichol...@gmail.com>> wrote:


A new user has created a new way in Brighton to indicate the Hollingbury 
residential error https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/785162533 They freely admit 
their error but are unable to remove it, as am I. Would anyone be able to 
assist please?

I only have anecdotal evidence (like this one) but it seems that a 'new user 
thing to do' is to 'correct my local area'. Might be another reason to lock 
boundaries from new user changes?
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Re: [Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Peter Neale via Talk-GB 
I think that I understand the issue.  A solution may be to delete individual 
points until the whole way is small enough to be shown on a screen at editable 
zoom.  
I am happy to spend a while trying this, but it is probably best if only one of 
us is stirring the pot at once.
Regards,Peter


On Monday, 27 April 2020, 10:32:44 BST, Jez Nicholson 
 wrote:  
 
 A new user has created a new way in Brighton to indicate the Hollingbury 
residential error https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/785162533 They freely admit 
their error but are unable to remove it, as am I. Would anyone be able to 
assist please?
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[Talk-GB] Can anyone reverse this changeset please?

2020-04-27 Thread Jez Nicholson 
A new user has created a new way in Brighton to indicate the Hollingbury
residential error https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/785162533 They freely
admit their error but are unable to remove it, as am I. Would anyone be
able to assist please?

I only have anecdotal evidence (like this one) but it seems that a 'new
user thing to do' is to 'correct my local area'. Might be another reason to
lock boundaries from new user changes?
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