Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

2018-10-29 Thread Rob Nickerson
Yeah those dates did not tally with the proposed delivery plan (PDF) on
their website. Hence I didn't mention it in my initial email as I was
already doubting it. May have been an earlier aspiration that got put back
to allow more consultation. Disappointingly slow but gives us a bit more
time to come up with plans of what we might or might not do with the new
data.



Thanks,
*Rob*


On Thu, 18 Oct 2018 at 12:26, SK53  wrote:
>
>> Anna Powell-Smith reports that some of these commitments have recently
>> disappeared from the text:
>> https://twitter.com/darkgreener/status/1052228644318392320
>>
>> On Fri, 12 Oct 2018 at 19:36, Rob Nickerson 
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> Recap: The Ordnance Survey are working with the new Geospatial
>>> Commission on opening up access to more of their data.
>>>
>>> 
>>>
>>>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

2018-10-12 Thread Mark Goodge



On 12/10/2018 21:32, Nick Whitelegg wrote:


Interesting. "Detailed path network" in particular looks interesting, is 
this rights of way or physical paths on the ground I wonder?


It would be physical paths on the ground.

Mark

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Re: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

2018-10-12 Thread Nick Whitelegg

Interesting. "Detailed path network" in particular looks interesting, is this 
rights of way or physical paths on the ground I wonder?


Nick



From: Rob Nickerson 
Sent: 12 October 2018 19:35:16
To: Talk-GB
Subject: [Talk-GB] Fwd: Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement

Hi all,

Recap: The Ordnance Survey are working with the new Geospatial Commission on 
opening up access to more of their data.

Today this email landed in OSM UK's inbox (you too can subscribe for updates). 
It is a tad confusing because there are releasing things under two different 
routes (free up to a threshold, and fully free under OGL open data licence). 
This is explained on their website [1] but hidden under a FAQ. Here is the text:


OS MasterMap will be made available for free, up to a threshold, through an 
API. This will include:

  *   OS MasterMap Topography Layers, including building heights and functional 
sites
  *   OS MasterMap Greenspace Layer
  *   OS MasterMap Highways Network
  *   OS MasterMap Water Network Layer
  *   OS Detailed Path Network

In addition, key parts of Ordnance Survey's highly detailed OS MasterMap are 
being made completely open under Open Government Licence (OGL). This includes:

  *   Property extents derived from OS MasterMap Topography Layer
  *   Spatial identifiers:
 *   OS MasterMap Topography Layer TOIDs (Topographic Object Identifiers) 
will be incorporated into the features in OS Open Map-Local.
 *   Over the next 12 months the Geospatial Commission will work with 
GeoPlace, LGA, the Improvement Service (on behalf of Scottish Local 
Government), and OS to investigate how best to open up the key identifiers UPRN 
and USRN, together with their respective geometries, for the whole of Great 
Britain under OGL terms. Due to the importance of these identifiers this will 
need to be done in a such a way that protects the integrity and authority of 
these identifiers. A way to give both businesses and public sector 
organisations the confidence to continue to rely on these within their own 
products and services, without restricting their ability to use and benefit 
from them.

UPRN = Unique Property Reference Number
USRN = Unique street reference number

Clearly we feel that "free and without restriction" is not compatible with free 
open data and that they should be going further with their OGL release. This is 
something we will be feeding back. I encourage you to do the same if time 
and/or business interest allows.

They also link to the Geospatial Commission consultation, something that we are 
well into writing an answer. You can continue to feed back via OSM UK, or you 
can submit your own response.

[1] 
https://www.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/business-and-government/products/open-mastermap.html

Thanks,
Rob

 Original Message 

Subject:Open MasterMap progress since Policy Announcement
Date:   2018-10-12 15:04
From:   "ordnancesur...@connect.os.uk<mailto:ordnancesur...@connect.os.uk>" 
mailto:ordnancesur...@connect.os.uk>>





An update on Open MasterMap Open MasterMap progress since Policy announcement 
Following the Open MasterMap Policy announcement in June by Cabinet Office, 
Ordnance Survey set up the Open MasterMap Implementation Programme (OMMIP) to 
successfully deliver the elements of the announcement that
[https://cdn.uploadlibrary.com/OSPricingandLicensing/Os-Logo-New-background.jpg]








An update on Open MasterMap

Open MasterMap progress since Policy announcement






Following the Open MasterMap Policy announcement in June by Cabinet Office, 
Ordnance Survey set up the Open MasterMap Implementation Programme (OMMIP) to 
successfully deliver the elements of the announcement 
<http://connect.os.uk/_act/link.php?mId=J9207806963818685268428496414423=240174329>
 that OS is responsible for. We have continued to work closely with the 
Geospatial 
Commission<http://connect.os.uk/_act/link.php?mId=J9207806963818685268428496414423=240174332>,
 an expert committee within the Cabinet Office, on delivery plans, and we are 
now in a position where we can start to share more of the proposed Outputs for 
your information and feedback.



Details of the proposed 'Utility' APIs and a summary of the proposed delivery 
plan can be found on our website 
><http://connect.os.uk/_act/link.php?mId=J9207806963818685268428496414423=240174335>



We believe that the APIs we're proposing will ensure that users have better 
access to our world class mapping and geospatial data, but we'd welcome your 
feedback on these. We have also shared the summary of our proposed delivery 
plan in order to demonstrate several things:

  1.  Our approach to delivery will be collaborative in nature, i.e. co-design 
principles of user testing will influence Outputs
  2.  Outputs will be delivered throughout the programme, rather than a 
'big-bang'.

We're currently working with