Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
On 02/06/2016 10:10, Jez Nicholson wrote: I'm guessing that the Malcolm H. responding here is the Malcolmh OSM User involved with openseamapif so, could you tell us whether seamark tags are specifically for known/acknowledged navigation objects or whether anything visible from the sea can be a seamark? I am he! A seamark is any object of navigational importance. Onshore wrecks, such as the Purton Hulks, do not fall into this category as they are not a hazard to navigation. I suggest that these objects be tagged as historical wrecks. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
I'm guessing that the Malcolm H. responding here is the Malcolmh OSM User involved with openseamapif so, could you tell us whether seamark tags are specifically for known/acknowledged navigation objects or whether anything visible from the sea can be a seamark? On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 at 09:45 Brian Prangle wrote: > Should have looked one menu down to see the substructure! Currently the > only hulk tags are for floating objects, so I suggest start a new hulk tag > for sunken breakwater. These objects are clearly hulks so the tagging > scheme needs to be extended. > > Regards > > Brian > > On 1 June 2016 at 22:55, Malcolm Herring > wrote: > >> On 01/06/2016 17:37, Brian Prangle wrote: >> >>> If you go to OSM's sister project openseamap you'll find they have a tag >>> for hulk >>> >> >> Those tags are not suitable for the objects described in the OP. All the >> categories of seamark:type=hulk are floating objects, whereas the Purton >> Hulks are beached & non-floatable. >> >> >> >> ___ >> Talk-GB mailing list >> Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb >> > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
Should have looked one menu down to see the substructure! Currently the only hulk tags are for floating objects, so I suggest start a new hulk tag for sunken breakwater. These objects are clearly hulks so the tagging scheme needs to be extended. Regards Brian On 1 June 2016 at 22:55, Malcolm Herring wrote: > On 01/06/2016 17:37, Brian Prangle wrote: > >> If you go to OSM's sister project openseamap you'll find they have a tag >> for hulk >> > > Those tags are not suitable for the objects described in the OP. All the > categories of seamark:type=hulk are floating objects, whereas the Purton > Hulks are beached & non-floatable. > > > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
On 01/06/2016 17:37, Brian Prangle wrote: If you go to OSM's sister project openseamap you'll find they have a tag for hulk Those tags are not suitable for the objects described in the OP. All the categories of seamark:type=hulk are floating objects, whereas the Purton Hulks are beached & non-floatable. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
If you go to OSM's sister project openseamap you'll find they have a tag for hulk https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Seamarks/Seamark_Objects Regards Brian On 1 June 2016 at 12:12, Andy Mabbett wrote: > The Purton Hulks: > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purton_Hulks > > are a set of boats, which have been deliberately beached on the banks > of the River Severn, to reinforce the river banks. > > The author of the above Wikipedia article and I would like to mark > each individual hulk on OSM, and to include their coordinates in the > Wikipedia article. > > A Bristol University Survey map of 1996 is on page 6 of: > > > http://nauticalarchaeologysociety.org/sites/default/files/u9/purton_report_2008.pdf > > Some of the hulks are visible in Bing imagery. > > Can anyone assist? How should they be tagged? > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
In a prior life I worked for an engineering firm who's boss was a keen sailor, as was the chief engineer. They decided to build concrete sailing yachts based on an Australian design. One got built but alas that’s as far as it went. Cheers Andy -Original Message- From: Tom Hughes [mailto:t...@compton.nu] Sent: 01 June 2016 12:41 To: Andy Mabbett; Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks On 01/06/16 12:12, Andy Mabbett wrote: > The Purton Hulks: > >https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purton_Hulks > > are a set of boats, which have been deliberately beached on the banks > of the River Severn, to reinforce the river banks. > > The author of the above Wikipedia article and I would like to mark > each individual hulk on OSM, and to include their coordinates in the > Wikipedia article. > > A Bristol University Survey map of 1996 is on page 6 of: > > > http://nauticalarchaeologysociety.org/sites/default/files/u9/purton_re > port_2008.pdf > > Some of the hulks are visible in Bing imagery. > > Can anyone assist? How should they be tagged? I suggest barge=concrete ;-) Not that I had any trouble believing you could make ships out of concrete or anything when I first heard about them as a teenager. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
is it not a historic=wreck ? I also think that The Purton Hulks makes a great name for a Rugby League team ;) On Wed, 1 Jun 2016 at 13:51 Andy Mabbett wrote: > On 1 June 2016 at 12:40, Tom Hughes wrote: > > >> How should they be tagged? > > > I suggest barge=concrete ;-) > > Even the wooden and steel ones? > > -- > Andy Mabbett > @pigsonthewing > http://pigsonthewing.org.uk > > ___ > Talk-GB mailing list > Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb > ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
On 1 June 2016 at 12:40, Tom Hughes wrote: >> How should they be tagged? > I suggest barge=concrete ;-) Even the wooden and steel ones? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
On 01/06/16 12:12, Andy Mabbett wrote: The Purton Hulks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purton_Hulks are a set of boats, which have been deliberately beached on the banks of the River Severn, to reinforce the river banks. The author of the above Wikipedia article and I would like to mark each individual hulk on OSM, and to include their coordinates in the Wikipedia article. A Bristol University Survey map of 1996 is on page 6 of: http://nauticalarchaeologysociety.org/sites/default/files/u9/purton_report_2008.pdf Some of the hulks are visible in Bing imagery. Can anyone assist? How should they be tagged? I suggest barge=concrete ;-) Not that I had any trouble believing you could make ships out of concrete or anything when I first heard about them as a teenager. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] Purton Hulks
The Purton Hulks: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Purton_Hulks are a set of boats, which have been deliberately beached on the banks of the River Severn, to reinforce the river banks. The author of the above Wikipedia article and I would like to mark each individual hulk on OSM, and to include their coordinates in the Wikipedia article. A Bristol University Survey map of 1996 is on page 6 of: http://nauticalarchaeologysociety.org/sites/default/files/u9/purton_report_2008.pdf Some of the hulks are visible in Bing imagery. Can anyone assist? How should they be tagged? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
