Re: [Talk-GB] Queensferry Crossing

2017-08-30 Thread Derick Rethans 
On Wed, 30 Aug 2017, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:

> The new Queensferry Crossing opened this morning. There's an article
> at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-41081556 with people
> complaining that the new bridge doesn't appear in Google maps yet.
> Although OS says they've added it to their MasterMap database, it's
> not yet on e.g.
> https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/55.99866,-3.40057,14 . It's also
> not yet on Bing maps.
> 
> On OSM, the bridge is mostly there, but some of the link roads at the
> north end are still marked as highway=construction. Does anyone have
> enough local knowledge to be able to fix these up correctly? There's a
> chance for a bit of publicity if OSM is the only mapping provider to
> have the bridge in place on the day it opens.

The Scottish Government has this on it:
https://www.transport.gov.scot/projects/forth-replacement-crossing/forth-replacement-crossing/#1325

cheers,
Derick

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Re: [Talk-GB] Queensferry Crossing

2017-08-30 Thread me 
On 30/08/17 at 10:28am, Tom Hughes wrote:
> On 30/08/17 10:26, Tom Hughes wrote:
> 
> > As best I can tell from wikipedia the new bridge is the M90 and under
> > motorway conditions with the old bridge presumably expected to carry
> > non-motorway traffic as the A9000.
> 
> So from http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41086779
> it seems it is non-motorway for now but will become a motorway once the old
> bridge has been "adapted for public transport".

I am just double checking things now. As far as I can make out the new
bridge is as Tom said the M90 but with a 40mph speed limit until
October. 

To make things more complicated the Queensferry Crossing is open for 2
days, then closed for 6 before re-opening. My thinking is to leave it as
open rather than close it for 6 days. 

The old bridge is effectively closed to all motor traffic, until
October/November... 

Usefully one of the colleagues filmed the crossing this morning:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=25SdGmTPlf0

Cheers
Chris

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Re: [Talk-GB] Queensferry Crossing

2017-08-30 Thread alasdair 
I drove over it this morning so have local knowledge if you need it.
(not sure where you are Chris)

  Al.
On 30/08/2017 10:45, Chris Fleming wrote:

> I am just checking over it now. 
> 
> On Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 10:30 Tom Hughes  wrote: 
> 
>> On 30/08/17 10:26, Tom Hughes wrote:
>> 
>>> As best I can tell from wikipedia the new bridge is the M90 and under
>>> motorway conditions with the old bridge presumably expected to carry
>>> non-motorway traffic as the A9000.
>> 
>> So from
>> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41086779 it
>> seems it is non-motorway for now but will become a motorway once the old
>> bridge has been "adapted for public transport".
>> 
>> Tom
>> 
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Re: [Talk-GB] Queensferry Crossing

2017-08-30 Thread Chris Fleming 
I am just checking over it now.

On Wed, 30 Aug 2017, 10:30 Tom Hughes  wrote:

> On 30/08/17 10:26, Tom Hughes wrote:
>
> > As best I can tell from wikipedia the new bridge is the M90 and under
> > motorway conditions with the old bridge presumably expected to carry
> > non-motorway traffic as the A9000.
>
> So from
> http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41086779 it
> seems it is non-motorway for now but will become a motorway once the old
> bridge has been "adapted for public transport".
>
> Tom
>
> --
> Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu)
> http://compton.nu/
>
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Re: [Talk-GB] Queensferry Crossing

2017-08-30 Thread Tom Hughes 

On 30/08/17 10:26, Tom Hughes wrote:

As best I can tell from wikipedia the new bridge is the M90 and under 
motorway conditions with the old bridge presumably expected to carry 
non-motorway traffic as the A9000.


So from 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-edinburgh-east-fife-41086779 it 
seems it is non-motorway for now but will become a motorway once the old 
bridge has been "adapted for public transport".


Tom

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Re: [Talk-GB] Queensferry Crossing

2017-08-30 Thread Tom Hughes 

On 30/08/17 09:46, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote:


On OSM, the bridge is mostly there, but some of the link roads at the
north end are still marked as highway=construction. Does anyone have
enough local knowledge to be able to fix these up correctly? There's a
chance for a bit of publicity if OSM is the only mapping provider to
have the bridge in place on the day it opens.


There seems to be come confusion over status as well - much of it has a 
ref of M90 but is highway=trunk while the link road to the south has a 
ref of A90 instead.


Meanwhile the old bridge was changed from A90 to A9000 last night but is 
still part of a relation labelled A90 which may be what is causing the 
labelling to flip back and forth or that might just be old tiles.


As best I can tell from wikipedia the new bridge is the M90 and under 
motorway conditions with the old bridge presumably expected to carry 
non-motorway traffic as the A9000.


Tom

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[Talk-GB] Queensferry Crossing

2017-08-30 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) 
The new Queensferry Crossing opened this morning. There's an article
at http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-41081556 with people
complaining that the new bridge doesn't appear in Google maps yet.
Although OS says they've added it to their MasterMap database, it's
not yet on e.g.
https://osmaps.ordnancesurvey.co.uk/55.99866,-3.40057,14 . It's also
not yet on Bing maps.

On OSM, the bridge is mostly there, but some of the link roads at the
north end are still marked as highway=construction. Does anyone have
enough local knowledge to be able to fix these up correctly? There's a
chance for a bit of publicity if OSM is the only mapping provider to
have the bridge in place on the day it opens.

Robert.

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