Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging references to web-enabled databases (war memorials & others)

[Richard Fairhurst]

Andy Mabbett wrote:
> Generally speaking, is it best to use the full URL;
> UKNIWM_URL = http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/server/show/conMemorial.2049
> or the unique ID part:
> UKNIWM_ID = 2049

Generally we have taken the approach that such data should not be included
in OSM; we are not a mashup centre for other databases. There may also be
copyright implications with including substantial linkages to third-party
datasets.

Better approaches include:
a) store OSM IDs in the third-party database, not the other way round (the
Flickr approach)
b) create a separate database to associate third-party database ids with OSM
ids
c) match by verifiable characteristics (lat/long, name, postcode)
d) use a system such as WOEIDs
(http://developer.yahoo.com/geo/geoplanet/guide/concepts.html)

cheers
Richard



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Re: [Talk-GB] Tagging references to web-enabled databases (war memorials & others)

[Tom Chance]

On 1 November 2011 15:44, Andy Mabbett  wrote:

> As I've just mentioned in another thread, the UK National Inventory of
> War Memorials , based at the Imperial War
> Museum, is creating a comprehensive archive of all war memorials in
> the United Kingdom. They have records for over 60,000 of the estimated
> 100,000 war memorials in the UK. These range from window and brass
> plaques to church organs, obelisks an crosses, and buildings. An
> example of the latter is the entry for Birmingham's Hall of Memory:
> .
>
> How should I tag that?
>
> Generally speaking, is it best to use the full URL;
>
>   UKNIWM_URL = http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/server/show/conMemorial.2049
>
>  or the unique ID part:
>
>   UKNIWM_ID = 2049
>
> and why?
>

I would just plug the web site address into "website=" and use a tag
"ukniwm_id=" for the ID in case that's of extra use for people.

Why? Because the website tag is already known by data users, and for most
of these memorials there is unlikely to be a better reference web page. If
we're interested in specifically connecting up with the UKNIWM then the ID
is more useful than an URL that may change and that isn't so easily
processed.

Regards,
Tom

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[Talk-GB] Tagging references to web-enabled databases (war memorials & others)

[Andy Mabbett]

As I've just mentioned in another thread, the UK National Inventory of
War Memorials , based at the Imperial War
Museum, is creating a comprehensive archive of all war memorials in
the United Kingdom. They have records for over 60,000 of the estimated
100,000 war memorials in the UK. These range from window and brass
plaques to church organs, obelisks an crosses, and buildings. An
example of the latter is the entry for Birmingham's Hall of Memory:
.

How should I tag that?

Generally speaking, is it best to use the full URL;

   UKNIWM_URL = http://www.ukniwm.org.uk/server/show/conMemorial.2049

 or the unique ID part:

   UKNIWM_ID = 2049

and why?

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Andy Mabbett
@pigsonthewing
http://pigsonthewing.org.uk

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