Re: [Talk-GB] UK-ST LEONARDS-ON SEA: CYCLE DATA COLLECTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT

2009-06-05 Thread Steve Coast

On Jun 4, 2009, at 6:37 PM, Jack Challen wrote:



 From: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com
 Incidentally, I was speaking to a senior professional person from the
 South West a few days ago who was aware that OSM had just mapped MK
 and was wishing that something similar could happen where he was. I
 suggested that all he had to do was ask, be nice and offer warm beer
 and pizzas at the end of the day from council funds!

 Hmm... If it's anywhere near St. Austell I'd probably be willing to  
 travel some distance for some well-kept Admiral's Ale and a decent  
 lamb jalfrezi

Isn't that also one of the places Free Beer was being brewed?



 In fact I wouldn't be surprised if mapping progress exhibited  
 something like the Ballmer Peak[1]
 The OSM mapping party: if you feed it, they will come...

 cheers
 jack

 1: http://xkcd.com/323/





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[Talk-GB] UK-ST LEONARDS-ON SEA: CYCLE DATA COLLECTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT

2009-06-04 Thread Peter Miller

The DfT have just published a contract out for the collection and  
management of cycle data for St Leonards on Sea

Lot 1. Cycle data collection. Undertaking cycle surveys to extend the  
Ordnance Survey Integrated Transport Network to include information  
about existing cycling infrastructure and where cycling is permitted  
and recommended. Cycle data will be provided in accordance to  
CycleNetXChange specification (http://www.cyclenetxchange.org.uk/).

Lot 2 - Cycle data management. Managing the central database  
including coordinating data collection, journey planner publishing,  
data maintenance and quality assurance activities and managing local  
authorities and data suppliers. These activities are supported through  
the online data management tools provided by Transport Direct.
http://www.publictenders.net/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=84033

Should we give the place a review and ensure it is top notch for  
cycling before the contact is awarded. The roads for the place seems  
to be complete, however there is a distinct lack of footpaths and  
cyclepaths in the town which seems unlikely. There is also a lack of  
paths through parks and there are no cycle lanes/tracks on roads  
according to OpenCycleMap. It might also need work on turn restrictions.

The users retselkim, timsc, fyremoon and the_winch seems to be  
reasonably active in the area. It is too far for me to go but might be  
a good venue for a mapping party this summer - south coast, sun, sea,  
ice cream etc ;)



Regards,



Peter








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Re: [Talk-GB] UK-ST LEONARDS-ON SEA: CYCLE DATA COLLECTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT

2009-06-04 Thread Peter Miller

On 4 Jun 2009, at 15:01, Andy Allan wrote:

 Out of interest, how much would one of these tenders go for i.e. how
 much do people pay in the real world for this kind of thing? Are we
 talking £500, £50,000, £250,000?


No idea, but the tender process must have significant costs associated  
with it measured in £x,000. Anyway, I feel that the 'real world' is  
shifting and possibly in the real world' in future the answer will be  
'not very much just so as long as you work with people not against  
them'.

Incidentally, I was speaking to a senior professional person from the  
South West a few days ago who was aware that OSM had just mapped MK  
and was wishing that something similar could happen where he was. I  
suggested that all he had to do was ask, be nice and offer warm beer  
and pizzas at the end of the day from council funds!



Regards,



Peter


 Cheers,
 Andy

 On Thu, Jun 4, 2009 at 2:15 PM, Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com 
  wrote:

 The DfT have just published a contract out for the collection and
 management of cycle data for St Leonards on Sea

 Lot 1. Cycle data collection. Undertaking cycle surveys to extend  
 the
 Ordnance Survey Integrated Transport Network to include information
 about existing cycling infrastructure and where cycling is permitted
 and recommended. Cycle data will be provided in accordance to
 CycleNetXChange specification (http://www.cyclenetxchange.org.uk/).

 Lot 2 - Cycle data management. Managing the central database
 including coordinating data collection, journey planner publishing,
 data maintenance and quality assurance activities and managing local
 authorities and data suppliers. These activities are supported  
 through
 the online data management tools provided by Transport Direct.
 http://www.publictenders.net/modules.php?op=modloadname=Newsfile=articlesid=84033

 Should we give the place a review and ensure it is top notch for
 cycling before the contact is awarded. The roads for the place seems
 to be complete, however there is a distinct lack of footpaths and
 cyclepaths in the town which seems unlikely. There is also a lack of
 paths through parks and there are no cycle lanes/tracks on roads
 according to OpenCycleMap. It might also need work on turn  
 restrictions.

 The users retselkim, timsc, fyremoon and the_winch seems to be
 reasonably active in the area. It is too far for me to go but might  
 be
 a good venue for a mapping party this summer - south coast, sun, sea,
 ice cream etc ;)



 Regards,



 Peter








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Re: [Talk-GB] UK-ST LEONARDS-ON SEA: CYCLE DATA COLLECTION MANAGEMENT CONTRACT

2009-06-04 Thread Jack Challen


 From: Peter Miller peter.mil...@itoworld.com
 Incidentally, I was speaking to a senior professional person from the  
 South West a few days ago who was aware that OSM had just mapped MK  
 and was wishing that something similar could happen where he was. I  
 suggested that all he had to do was ask, be nice and offer warm beer  
 and pizzas at the end of the day from council funds!

Hmm... If it's anywhere near St. Austell I'd probably be willing to travel some 
distance for some well-kept Admiral's Ale and a decent lamb jalfrezi

In fact I wouldn't be surprised if mapping progress exhibited something like 
the Ballmer Peak[1]
The OSM mapping party: if you feed it, they will come...

cheers
jack

1: http://xkcd.com/323/



  

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