Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

[Jonathan Bennett]

On 01/02/2014 21:38, Kevin Peat wrote:

Only for helicopters on race weekends and for sightseeing trips, the runway was 
repurposed a few years ago. To complicate things further there is a new 
university building on the site so you could add campus to the list of possible 
tags.



You're all wrong. It's a concert venue:

http://www.gigwise.com/news/87744/kaiser-chiefs-to-perform-british-grand-prix-gig-at-silverstone---tickets


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Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

[Kevin Peat]

>
>I believe that Silverstone is also an active airfield.
>

Only for helicopters on race weekends and for sightseeing trips, the runway was 
repurposed a few years ago. To complicate things further there is a new 
university building on the site so you could add campus to the list of possible 
tags.

Kevin


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Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

[SK53]

I agree with Phil, stadium is stretching the point too.

Jerry


On 1 February 2014 21:11, Philip Barnes  wrote:

> On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 20:41 +, Dan S wrote:
> > leisure=stadium is appropriate for these?
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dstadium
>
> Stadium is not really appropriate for racing circuits like Silverstone.
> A stadium implies an area surrounded by grandstands, which may be
> appropriate in the US for NASCAR circuits, but not really for the open
> circuits we have in the UK.
>
> I believe that Silverstone is also an active airfield.
>
> Phil (trigpoint)
>
> >
> > 2014-02-01 SK53 :
> > > Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs  I noticed that the
> > > Silverstone GP circuit is tagged leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon
> > > Racecourse is tagged with leisure=track.
> > >
> > > Whereas it is true that Silverstone is a centre for a sport, my
> > > understanding is that leisure=sports_centre is usually used to map
> > > buildings, usually run by councils, which offer a range of facilities
> for
> > > different sports. Associated playing fields are usually mapped as
> > > leisure=recreation_ground.
> > >
> > > Similarly leisure=track is comprehensible to me, but would not make
> sense to
> > > any automated processing of tag values.
> > >
> > > I've muttered before about how extending the meaning of a tag usually
> > > degrades the tags value. In this case indiscriminate use of
> sports_centre
> > > means that OSM no longer becomes suitable for examining things like
> access
> > > to sports facilites by the general public.
> > >
> > > The other thing that this highlights is the potential need for a
> generic
> > > landuse type tag for areas devoted to some sporting purpose. I've
> noted this
> > > before in the US where people have taken to marking the in-bound areas
> of a
> > > ski resort with leisure=recreation_ground.
> > >
> > > Any thoughts,
> > >
> > > Jerry
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Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

[Philip Barnes]

On Sat, 2014-02-01 at 20:41 +, Dan S wrote:
> leisure=stadium is appropriate for these?
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dstadium

Stadium is not really appropriate for racing circuits like Silverstone.
A stadium implies an area surrounded by grandstands, which may be
appropriate in the US for NASCAR circuits, but not really for the open
circuits we have in the UK.

I believe that Silverstone is also an active airfield.

Phil (trigpoint)

> 
> 2014-02-01 SK53 :
> > Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs  I noticed that the
> > Silverstone GP circuit is tagged leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon
> > Racecourse is tagged with leisure=track.
> >
> > Whereas it is true that Silverstone is a centre for a sport, my
> > understanding is that leisure=sports_centre is usually used to map
> > buildings, usually run by councils, which offer a range of facilities for
> > different sports. Associated playing fields are usually mapped as
> > leisure=recreation_ground.
> >
> > Similarly leisure=track is comprehensible to me, but would not make sense to
> > any automated processing of tag values.
> >
> > I've muttered before about how extending the meaning of a tag usually
> > degrades the tags value. In this case indiscriminate use of sports_centre
> > means that OSM no longer becomes suitable for examining things like access
> > to sports facilites by the general public.
> >
> > The other thing that this highlights is the potential need for a generic
> > landuse type tag for areas devoted to some sporting purpose. I've noted this
> > before in the US where people have taken to marking the in-bound areas of a
> > ski resort with leisure=recreation_ground.
> >
> > Any thoughts,
> >
> > Jerry
> >
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Re: [Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

[Dan S]

leisure=stadium is appropriate for these?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:leisure%3Dstadium

Dan

2014-02-01 SK53 :
> Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs  I noticed that the
> Silverstone GP circuit is tagged leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon
> Racecourse is tagged with leisure=track.
>
> Whereas it is true that Silverstone is a centre for a sport, my
> understanding is that leisure=sports_centre is usually used to map
> buildings, usually run by councils, which offer a range of facilities for
> different sports. Associated playing fields are usually mapped as
> leisure=recreation_ground.
>
> Similarly leisure=track is comprehensible to me, but would not make sense to
> any automated processing of tag values.
>
> I've muttered before about how extending the meaning of a tag usually
> degrades the tags value. In this case indiscriminate use of sports_centre
> means that OSM no longer becomes suitable for examining things like access
> to sports facilites by the general public.
>
> The other thing that this highlights is the potential need for a generic
> landuse type tag for areas devoted to some sporting purpose. I've noted this
> before in the US where people have taken to marking the in-bound areas of a
> ski resort with leisure=recreation_ground.
>
> Any thoughts,
>
> Jerry
>
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[Talk-GB] Use of leisure=sports_centre at Silverstone etc

[SK53]

Today whilst moving bugs over from OpenStreetBugs  I noticed that the
Silverstone
GP circuit  is tagged
leisure=sports_centre and Huntingdon
Racecourseis tagged with
leisure=track.

Whereas it is true that Silverstone is a centre for a sport, my
understanding is that leisure=sports_centre is usually used to map
buildings, usually run by councils, which offer a range of facilities for
different sports. Associated playing fields are usually mapped as
leisure=recreation_ground.

Similarly leisure=track is comprehensible to me, but would not make sense
to any automated processing of tag values.

I've muttered before about how extending the meaning of a tag usually
degrades the tags value. In this case indiscriminate use of sports_centre
means that OSM no longer becomes suitable for examining things like access
to sports facilites by the general public.

The other thing that this highlights is the potential need for a generic
landuse type tag for areas devoted to some sporting purpose. I've noted
this before in the US where people have taken to marking the in-bound areas
of a ski resort with leisure=recreation_ground.

Any thoughts,

Jerry
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