Re: [Talk-GB] import / mech edit of some Aberdeen city council open data
On Sun, Feb 8, 2015, at 07:04 AM, Jo Walsh wrote: Ugh, okay, we had it from the horse's mouth so to speak that the license on the new CKAN catalogue would be OGL. I will sanity check this today. Sadly, the horse is over-optimistic, so to speak, on this topic. Aberdeen City Council plans a re-launch of its open data site, backed by a CKAN catalogue ( http://ckan.org/ ) and the same data will re-appear there, all re-licensed under the OGL. This is on a soonish timescale, so any attempt at an import, manual or otherwise, will have to wait until there is 150% license interop clarity. Ah well, worth socialising this issue on the list anyway I hope, sorry to take up time pre-emptively, zx ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
[Talk-GB] import / mech edit of some Aberdeen city council open data
I'm here at http://codethecity.org and neiljp has just arrived, too, and we are egging one another on to import some Aberdeen city council open data into OSM. Specifically looking at this dataset of schools with point locations: http://open311.xoverto.com/dev/v1/facilities/schools.json An overpass query reveals a mix of node and way data for schools existing, with nothing like the same coverage. Would people be broadly okay with this / should we be following a process through the list? The data is OGL licensed. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] import / mech edit of some Aberdeen city council open data
Ugh, okay, we had it from the horse's mouth so to speak that the license on the new CKAN catalogue would be OGL. I will sanity check this today. To their credit they are very sensitive to issues surrounding OS derived works. It is quietly wonderful to hear a local authority rep talking of QGIS and GeoJSON in a perfectly natural manner. neiljp went a lot further digging around with Overpass looking for matching names as well as tagged amenities, and there's a decent quantity of way rather than node data there already, so any import will be manual not semi-automated The feedback is apprec, Dan S On Sat, Feb 7, 2015, at 09:31 PM, Dan S wrote: Hi Jo, How do you know it's OGL licensed? I went to try and find the licence and I found this page: http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/open_data/education_learning.asp where the licence is stated to be CC-BY-SA-3, which cannot be imported into OSM (because the SA constraint means it can't be relicensed as ODBL). I can't be certain that I found the same schools data (...in fact it has 72 vs 70 items in it...), but I guess at some point the imports-list would demand proper proof that it's available under a compatible licence. They'd also ask how the lat/lon were found (did it involve OS? google?), since that's been an issue with some imports. From my point of view, this is a simple and small dataset and I personally would not object to an import as long as duplicates were avoided etc. Others probably feel different. It's mainly the licence question for me. Oh and I don't live anywhere near Aberdeen ;) Best Dan 2015-02-07 17:24 GMT+00:00 Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net: I'm here at http://codethecity.org and neiljp has just arrived, too, and we are egging one another on to import some Aberdeen city council open data into OSM. Specifically looking at this dataset of schools with point locations: http://open311.xoverto.com/dev/v1/facilities/schools.json An overpass query reveals a mix of node and way data for schools existing, with nothing like the same coverage. Would people be broadly okay with this / should we be following a process through the list? The data is OGL licensed. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] import / mech edit of some Aberdeen city council open data
Hi Jo, How do you know it's OGL licensed? I went to try and find the licence and I found this page: http://www.aberdeencity.gov.uk/open_data/education_learning.asp where the licence is stated to be CC-BY-SA-3, which cannot be imported into OSM (because the SA constraint means it can't be relicensed as ODBL). I can't be certain that I found the same schools data (...in fact it has 72 vs 70 items in it...), but I guess at some point the imports-list would demand proper proof that it's available under a compatible licence. They'd also ask how the lat/lon were found (did it involve OS? google?), since that's been an issue with some imports. From my point of view, this is a simple and small dataset and I personally would not object to an import as long as duplicates were avoided etc. Others probably feel different. It's mainly the licence question for me. Oh and I don't live anywhere near Aberdeen ;) Best Dan 2015-02-07 17:24 GMT+00:00 Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net: I'm here at http://codethecity.org and neiljp has just arrived, too, and we are egging one another on to import some Aberdeen city council open data into OSM. Specifically looking at this dataset of schools with point locations: http://open311.xoverto.com/dev/v1/facilities/schools.json An overpass query reveals a mix of node and way data for schools existing, with nothing like the same coverage. Would people be broadly okay with this / should we be following a process through the list? The data is OGL licensed. zx -- Jo Walsh metaz...@fastmail.net ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
