Re: [Talk-GB] Blue Plaques and others

2012-01-29 Thread Robert Norris


> I have stated to map the 60ish p laques (mostly blue) in Hull and  
> update the openplaques site too. I wrote a blog about it earlier this  
> month http://chris-osm.blogspot.com/2012/01/plaques-blue-or-not.html .  
> It seems there is a plaque to Dickens here too, though I haven't  
> checked it out yet. I'm creating a small-scale tourism site including  
> blue plaques and other memorials such statues. 

Interesting read - thanks.

Yeah, Dickens seemed to get about!
 
> I use historic=memorial, memorial=blue_plaque, description=summary,  
> openplaques:id=* I will happily change if there is a consensus, but the  
> blog and comments show some issues. Many a wiki page would help discuss  
> the issue (now I feel dirty). 

I feel as long as the information is there, then we can always run some 
auto/manual conversions to the latest scheme to make it easy/obvious for data 
consumers.

The landmark = memorial_plaque came from the 'landmark wiki page'

If we agree on things up front it makes it simpler.

I was thinking about making a initial Wiki page, perhaps after some discussion 
here.
I choose talk-GB, as mostly these plaques are GB (over 5000 exist according to 
OpenPlaques), rather than the wider tagging mail list for a start point.
 
> Cheers, Chris 
> Cheers, Chris 
> User chillly 
> Blog http://chris-osm.blogspot.com 
  
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Re: [Talk-GB] Blue Plaques and others

2012-01-29 Thread Robert Norris

> >
> > Optional Extended Detail:
> >
> > openplaques:id=number
> > description='full inscription text' - without operator information
> > operator='civic society name' | 'local council name' | whatever if known
> > start_date= date plaque was erected if known
> >
> > It would be really good if the only existing map I know of - that uses OSM 
> > data - could be expanded to cover the whole of the UK:
> >
> > http://mappa-mercia.org/blue-plaques-map.shtml
> >
> > (Or maybe a bit more information on how the 'blue-plaques.tsv' was created 
> > to power that map).
>
> Is there any conflict adding a link to http://openplaques.org/people/413 and 
> the
> relevant plaque. We might also be able to convert them to OSM ;)
>
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A link to the person could be made, however that seems a little specific to 
OpenPlaques.

Following just the plaque ID should take you to the personal links.

I'm not sure how / if anywhere in OSM objects are linked to people.
I suspect this would mainly be for historical interest.

I would suggest the canonical link would be to the relevant Wikipedia page.

Interesting OpenPlaques use OSM via Mapquest for the places overview (eg 
http://openplaques.org/places/gb/areas/portsmouth)

However for the individual plaques they use Google Maps.



  
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Re: [Talk-GB] Blue Plaques and others

2012-01-29 Thread Chris Hill
Robert Norris  wrote:



Seeing as it's Charles Dicken's 200th Birthday soon,
http://www.charlesdickensbirthplace.co.uk/charles-dickens/charles-dickens-200

I thought I should get around to mapping the Blue and other Coloured Plaques in 
my area of Portsmouth, especially as there's one at his birthplace.

However OSM seems a little vague in the best way to tag them, as there's 
nothing recommended in the wiki AFAIK.

TagInfo has some clues of in use methods

He's my planned tagging scheme:

Basic:

historic=memorial
landmark=memorial_plaque
memorial_plaque:colour=blue|brown|whatever|RGB code?
name='name' - just the name of the person / organization the plaque is about eg 
'Charles Dickens' 

Optional Extended Detail:

openplaques:id=number
description='full inscription text' - without operator information
operator='civic society name' | 'local council name' | whatever if known
start_date= date plaque was erected if known

It would be really good if the only existing map I know of - that uses OSM data 
- could be expanded to cover the whole of the UK:

http://mappa-mercia.org/blue-plaques-map.shtml

(Or maybe a bit more information on how the 'blue-plaques.tsv' was created to 
power that map).



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I have stated to map the 60ish plaques (mostly blue) in Hull and update the 
openplaques site too. I wrote a blog about it earlier this month 
http://chris-osm.blogspot.com/2012/01/plaques-blue-or-not.html . It seems there 
is a plaque to Dickens here too, though I haven't checked it out yet. I'm 
creating a small-scale tourism site including blue plaques and other memorials 
such statues. 

I use historic=memorial, memorial=blue_plaque, description=summary, 
openplaques:id=* I will happily change if there is a consensus, but the blog 
and comments show some issues. Many a wiki page would help discuss the issue 
(now I feel dirty).

Cheers, Chris
Cheers, Chris
User chillly
Blog http://chris-osm.blogspot.com 

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Re: [Talk-GB] Blue Plaques and others

2012-01-29 Thread Lester Caine

Robert Norris wrote:



Seeing as it's Charles Dicken's 200th Birthday soon,
http://www.charlesdickensbirthplace.co.uk/charles-dickens/charles-dickens-200

I thought I should get around to mapping the Blue and other Coloured Plaques in 
my area of Portsmouth, especially as there's one at his birthplace.

However OSM seems a little vague in the best way to tag them, as there's 
nothing recommended in the wiki AFAIK.

TagInfo has some clues of in use methods

He's my planned tagging scheme:

Basic:

historic=memorial
landmark=memorial_plaque
memorial_plaque:colour=blue|brown|whatever|RGB code?
name='name' - just the name of the person / organization the plaque is about eg 
'Charles Dickens'

Optional Extended Detail:

openplaques:id=number
description='full inscription text' - without operator information
operator='civic society name' | 'local council name' | whatever if known
start_date= date plaque was erected if known

It would be really good if the only existing map I know of - that uses OSM data 
- could be expanded to cover the whole of the UK:

http://mappa-mercia.org/blue-plaques-map.shtml

(Or maybe a bit more information on how the 'blue-plaques.tsv' was created to 
power that map).


Is there any conflict adding a link to http://openplaques.org/people/413 and the 
relevant plaque. We might also be able to convert them to OSM ;)


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