Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API

2010-05-09 Thread Bob Kerr
Superb and thanks,
Open Knowledge Scotland is the perfect venue to go forward with this
Cheers
Bob

--- On Sun, 9/5/10, Jo Walsh  wrote:

From: Jo Walsh 
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API
To: "Bob Kerr" 
Cc: talk-gb@openstreetmap.org
Date: Sunday, 9 May, 2010, 15:34

dear Bob, all,

On 08/05/2010 18:17, Bob Kerr wrote:
> Hi, I have been in touch with them and they are keen that we should be
> allowed to use their data so that we can create derived information that
> we can use for Openstreetmap. They have told me that they are willing to
> use the Open Database Licence with OSM they may just need some
> clarification of some minor details

> Is there anyone on the list that has experience with licensing that
> could get in touch with them. I am happy to be an intermediary and I
> have met them more than once and they know me. I would just like a
> little backup because this could be very beneficial to us in
> openstreetmap and to the Library. It would be beneficial to the library
> because they get more interest and recognition for their work

Okay, Chris Fleet (the Map Librarian at NLS) will be presenting this service at 
Open Knowledge Scotland, and relevantly, Charlotte Waelde and Andres Guadamuz, 
old colleagues of Jordan Hatcher (of Open Data Commons/ODBL) at SCRIPT, they'll 
be doing a "clinic" on open data licensing issues.

So we can make sure everyone meets - Bob i see you're on the okscotland 
attendee list already which is great because we're well overcapacity - and even 
raise this as a test case at their clinic, if they have that kind of 
flexibility.

Bob, i did forward Chris and Petr the original mail from Frederik lasy week, if 
there's any followup I'll definitely cc you (and look forward to meeting on 
Thursday!)

I could also *try* asking JISC Legal, it would be useful to get stable advisory 
words wrt ODbL from them.

cheers,


jo
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Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API

2010-05-09 Thread Jo Walsh
dear Bob, all,

On 08/05/2010 18:17, Bob Kerr wrote:
> Hi, I have been in touch with them and they are keen that we should be
> allowed to use their data so that we can create derived information that
> we can use for Openstreetmap. They have told me that they are willing to
> use the Open Database Licence with OSM they may just need some
> clarification of some minor details

> Is there anyone on the list that has experience with licensing that
> could get in touch with them. I am happy to be an intermediary and I
> have met them more than once and they know me. I would just like a
> little backup because this could be very beneficial to us in
> openstreetmap and to the Library. It would be beneficial to the library
> because they get more interest and recognition for their work

Okay, Chris Fleet (the Map Librarian at NLS) will be presenting this 
service at Open Knowledge Scotland, and relevantly, Charlotte Waelde and 
Andres Guadamuz, old colleagues of Jordan Hatcher (of Open Data 
Commons/ODBL) at SCRIPT, they'll be doing a "clinic" on open data 
licensing issues.

So we can make sure everyone meets - Bob i see you're on the okscotland 
attendee list already which is great because we're well overcapacity - 
and even raise this as a test case at their clinic, if they have that 
kind of flexibility.

Bob, i did forward Chris and Petr the original mail from Frederik lasy 
week, if there's any followup I'll definitely cc you (and look forward 
to meeting on Thursday!)

I could also *try* asking JISC Legal, it would be useful to get stable 
advisory words wrt ODbL from them.

cheers,


jo
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Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API

2010-05-08 Thread Bob Kerr
Hi, I have been in touch with them and they are keen that we should be allowed 
to use their data so that we can create derived information that we can use for 
Openstreetmap. They have told me that they are willing to use the Open Database 
Licence with OSM they may just need some clarification of some minor details 
I think the only problem is that that they have a great deal of much older maps 
which they hope to eventually put online. These images are the ones that under 
law they need to protect.
 However derived data from them they would be ok with.
Is there anyone on the list that has experience with licensing that could get 
in touch with them. I am happy to be an intermediary and I have met them more
 than once and they know me. I would just like a little backup because this 
could be very beneficial to us in openstreetmap and to the Library. It would be 
beneficial to the library because they get more interest and recognition
 for their work
If there are any people that are good at licencing please either contact me or 
to them directly
There contact information is on
http://geo.nls.uk/maps/api/
If you do contact them could you please CC me just to keep me in the loop
Cheers
Bob
--- On Wed, 5/5/10, Frederik Ramm  wrote:

From: Frederik Ramm 
Subject: Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API
To: "Bob Kerr" 
Cc: Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org
Date: Wednesday, 5 May, 2010, 20:08

Hi,

Bob Kerr wrote:
> The data released has some overlap with the data that we already have but it 
> does go into more detail than ours. The license is also compatible with ours.

Perhaps they could be approached cautiously and asked whether they would 
consider allowing derived information to be published under ODbL as it is still 
not
 entirely impossible that we'll want to use that license some time in the 
future.

Bye
Frederik

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Re: [Talk-GB] National Map Library of Scotland API

2010-05-05 Thread Frederik Ramm
Hi,

Bob Kerr wrote:
> The data released has some overlap with the data that we already have 
> but it does go into more detail than ours. The license is also 
> compatible with ours.

Perhaps they could be approached cautiously and asked whether they would 
consider allowing derived information to be published under ODbL as it 
is still not entirely impossible that we'll want to use that license 
some time in the future.

Bye
Frederik

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