Re: [Talk-GB] New user reinstating old railways in Norfolk
It may be worth pointing out that you can have different view of the same data. For example ITO have a map highlighting the former railways: http://www.itoworld.com/map/198#fullscreenlat=52.58151540618443lon=1.0302901709739063zoom=9 Shaun ITO World Developer On 18 Feb 2013, at 14:24, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) robert.whittaker+...@gmail.com wrote: New user MATTHEW NIBARI [1] has created just two changesets [2], both yesterday (17th February). The OSM History viewer views of these are as follows: http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=15065237 http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=15066769 I've been though every way listed there, and every single change in both of these changesets involves changing railway=abandoned or railway=disused to railway=rail, and removing any highway=* tags. I haven't checked every way, but I expect that all these railway lines are indeed disused or abandoned, and so the previous tagging was correct. I sent Matthew a message a couple of hours ago through the OSM system to explain that our tagging should reflect the current reality, and that his changes are therefore inappropriate. His reply was that he was trying to track down old railway lines and make them easier to find in OSM. He didn't seem to see a problem with changing the tagging. His user page [1] includes the text If people are having problems please note the edited sections must not be changed for any reason so if anyone inbox me or changes it back, I will revert back if its put back suggesting he may revert any changes to his new tagging regardless of other's views. I've sent a second email half an hour ago to explain in more detail why current roads need to be tagged as roads and not railways, and suggested that he should discuss things with the community on talk-gb to find a suitable way to achieve his ends without messing up the map data for everyone else. At that stage I'd only found a couple of road-rail changes in one changeset, and wasn't aware of the History Viewer, so didn't know that *every* change was removing highway tags and changing to railway=rail. I thus wasn't sure whether the whole changeset would need reverting or just a part of it, and so I asked Matthew what his changes had involved. However, I think it's now clear that the whole of both changesets [3,4] need to be reverted. Presumably, this should be done as quickly as possible to avoid the risk of subsequent edits complicating things. I don't have any recent experience of doing reverts, so is there anyone reading this who would be able to do them instead? I haven't had a reply from Matthew to my second message yet, but once this has posted, I'll send him a web link to this thread. Many thanks, Robert. [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MATTHEW%20NIBARI [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MATTHEW%20NIBARI/edits [3] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15065237 [4] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15066769 -- Robert Whittaker ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New user reinstating old railways in Norfolk
On 18/02/13 14:24, Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: New user MATTHEW NIBARI [1] has created just two changesets [2], both yesterday (17th February). The OSM History viewer views of these are as follows: http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=15065237 http://osmhv.openstreetmap.de/changeset.jsp?id=15066769 I've been though every way listed there, and every single change in both of these changesets involves changing railway=abandoned or railway=disused to railway=rail, and removing any highway=* tags. I haven't checked every way, but I expect that all these railway lines are indeed disused or abandoned, and so the previous tagging was correct. He posted diary entries as well, and several of us have tried to engage with him there. From his last comment here: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/MATTHEW%20NIBARI/diary/18652 I wonder if he is just very confused and thinks this is the correct way to create a custom map for himself? His english doesn't seem to be brilliant which may not be helping with people's attempts to explain the problem to him. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New user reinstating old railways in Norfolk
Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: However, I think it's now clear that the whole of both changesets [3,4] need to be reverted. Presumably, this should be done as quickly as possible to avoid the risk of subsequent edits complicating things. I don't have any recent experience of doing reverts, so is there anyone reading this who would be able to do them instead? Done. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15078224 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15078231 cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/New-user-reinstating-old-railways-in-Norfolk-tp5749762p5749768.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] New user reinstating old railways in Norfolk
He's responded positively to comments in his latest diary entry, and has asked for help with JOSM. Hopefully this can now be resolved! Only trouble is, I fear what he wants to do is quite complex and he might struggle and get annoyed again :-s On Mon, Feb 18, 2013 at 3:07 PM, Richard Fairhurst rich...@systemed.netwrote: Robert Whittaker (OSM lists) wrote: However, I think it's now clear that the whole of both changesets [3,4] need to be reverted. Presumably, this should be done as quickly as possible to avoid the risk of subsequent edits complicating things. I don't have any recent experience of doing reverts, so is there anyone reading this who would be able to do them instead? Done. http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15078224 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/15078231 cheers Richard -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/New-user-reinstating-old-railways-in-Norfolk-tp5749762p5749768.html Sent from the Great Britain mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
