Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

2019-11-13 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB

On 13/11/2019 15:42, Jez Nicholson wrote:

Hi Dave,

There was a long and detailed discussion about where is covered by OSMUK.

Hi
Where/when was this discussion held?

DaveF

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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

2019-11-13 Thread Rob Nickerson
Thanks all.

As noted the wiki page is not run by OSM-UK (the company) although company
members and directors are free to update it, along with everyone else. I
personally have done some edits recently (more to come) and found it odd
that the page has that text at the top about what the UK is and the term
Britain. I am not sure how that helps people to map and I was very tempted
to delete it completely. Those wanting to know about the UK can use their
favourite search engine and/or Wikipedia.

The website (osmuk.org) is run by OSM-UK (the company) although if anyone
would like to help make changes, please let me know. In addition to the
company membership, we also maintain an email newsletter. The audience for
that is higher at 190 subscribers. Whilst I would love to see those
additional people become company members, it is entirely their choice. It
is also worth noting that we have a set percentage of members that need to
attend meetings in order for them to be quorate. Having the differentiation
between company members and newsletter subscribers helps here. Those that
to participate in decision making should join as a company member, whereas
those just wanting the occasional update can just join the newsletter list.

I'm going to start a new thread as we also have some news about future
meetings.

Best regards,
*Rob*
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

2019-11-13 Thread Robert Whittaker (OSM lists)
On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 at 16:35, Mateusz Konieczny  wrote:
> This message seems to complain
> about something, but it is unclear
> what is the problem.

Having looked at https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom I
assume the problem was that in the opening sentence under the map, the
page erroneously said that the UK included the Crown Dependencies and
the British Overseas Territories. I've now (hopefully) fixed that, and
also explained what the "British Isles" is.

As far as OSMUK is concerned, I think the Community Interest Company
formally has the UK as it's scope, although as an OSMF local chapter
it officially covers the UK (including Northern Ireland) and the three
Crown Dependencies (Isle of Man, Jersey and Guernsey). We're happy to
overlap with the OSMIE local chapter, who cover the whole of the
island of Ireland (so also including Northern Ireland).

Re the size of OSMUK's membership, the annual report at
https://osmuk.org/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/Annual_Report_of_the_Directors_OSMUK_CIC_for_Year_Ending_March_31_2019.pdf
says there were 95 regular and 4 corporate members.

Hope that helps,

Robert.

> 13 Nov 2019, 16:08 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org:
>
> Someone involved with OSM-UK may wish to check the definition of The British 
> Isles:
> https://www.britannica.com/place/British-Isles
>
> They may also wish to have a read of this:
> https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/cabinet-office/external-relations/constitution/
>
>
> What is the size of OSM-UK's membership?




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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

2019-11-13 Thread Mateusz Konieczny

Can you explain what you 
want to achieve?

This message seems to complain
about something, but it is unclear 
what is the problem.
13 Nov 2019, 16:08 by talk-gb@openstreetmap.org:
> Someone involved with OSM-UK may wish to check the definition of The British 
> Isles:
> https://www.britannica.com/place/British-Isles
>
> They may also wish to have a read of this:
> https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/cabinet-office/external-relations/constitution/
>
>
> What is the size of OSM-UK's membership?
>
>
> Cheers
> DaveF
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

2019-11-13 Thread Brian Prangle
Bit of a misunderstanding here Dave  - this is the wiki page of the UK
mapping community not the UK OSM chapter. Everone is free to contribute to
improve the wiki page, so if you find poor information there - just edit it
to improve its content.

Regards

Brian

On Wed, 13 Nov 2019 at 15:19, Dave F via Talk-GB 
wrote:

> Here's OSM-UK's page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#Guidelines
>
> On 13/11/2019 15:08, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Someone involved with OSM-UK may wish to check the definition of The
> > British Isles:
> > https://www.britannica.com/place/British-Isles
> >
> > They may also wish to have a read of this:
> >
> https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/cabinet-office/external-relations/constitution/
> >
> >
> >
> > What is the size of OSM-UK's membership?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > DaveF
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

2019-11-13 Thread Jez Nicholson
Hi Dave,

There was a long and detailed discussion about where is covered by OSMUK.
The result was United Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland
+ British Crown Dependencies, which includes the Isle of Man. I believe
that this is also what many people in the OSM community tend to mean when
they say 'UK'.

Like many relationships, it's complicated.

Regards,
 Jez

On Wed, Nov 13, 2019 at 3:19 PM Dave F via Talk-GB <
talk-gb@openstreetmap.org> wrote:

> Here's OSM-UK's page
> https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#Guidelines
>
> On 13/11/2019 15:08, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:
> > Hi
> >
> > Someone involved with OSM-UK may wish to check the definition of The
> > British Isles:
> > https://www.britannica.com/place/British-Isles
> >
> > They may also wish to have a read of this:
> >
> https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/cabinet-office/external-relations/constitution/
> >
> >
> >
> > What is the size of OSM-UK's membership?
> >
> >
> > Cheers
> > DaveF
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Re: [Talk-GB] OSM-UK misunderstands the British Isles

2019-11-13 Thread Dave F via Talk-GB

Here's OSM-UK's page
https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/United_Kingdom#Guidelines

On 13/11/2019 15:08, Dave F via Talk-GB wrote:

Hi

Someone involved with OSM-UK may wish to check the definition of The 
British Isles:

https://www.britannica.com/place/British-Isles

They may also wish to have a read of this:
https://www.gov.im/about-the-government/departments/cabinet-office/external-relations/constitution/ 




What is the size of OSM-UK's membership?


Cheers
DaveF


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