Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] FW: Monarch's way distributed mapping party Saturday October 8th

2011-09-09 Thread Steve Brook
Some answers to various recent questions:

The monarch's way is described in three books so if it was to be split I
would suggest using the same split as the books as listed on
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monarch's_Way ie.
Worcester to Stratford-upon-Avon via Boscobel
Stratford-upon-Avon to Charmouth
Charmouth to Shoreham

One good reason for creating route relations is so applications such as
http://hiking.lonvia.de/relation/20611 can exist.

It also serves as a place to put common tags such as these taken from the
monarch's way relation

website : http://www.themonarchsway.com 
distance : 990km 
name : Monarch's Way 
route : hiking 
description : approximate route of Charles II's escape 
wikipedia : Monarch's_Way 
note : not a "National Trial", but at ~1000km longer than most, the MW
foundation wants it to be a Natioanl Trial, I think network=nwn is
appropriate 
type : route 
symbol : ship above a royal oak tree 
network : nwn

For looking at the history of big relations I found you can use the OSM
History Browser to list the change sets and allow you to compare selected
changes.
 
http://osm.virtuelle-loipe.de/history/ 
 
Also the Route Relations 'h' link on the
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_United_Kingdom_Long_Distance_
Paths  page will provide the relation number and take you straight there:
http://osm.virtuelle-loipe.de/history/?type=relation&ref=20611 

-Original Message-
From: Jonathan Harley [mailto:j...@spiffymap.net] 
Sent: 09 September 2011 18:15
To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] FW: Monarch's way distributed
mapping party Saturday October 8th

On 08/09/11 22:37, Dave F. wrote:
>
> Before any mapping gets done can we make sure the relation system to 
> be used can cope with a long distance route?
>
> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/52310
>
> This relation is fairly long & upto v341 already. It gives a time out 
> error when attempting to view its history.
>
> Instead of having just one relation I think it would be a good idea to 
> split it into child/parent relations such as has been done to NCN 4:
...

This may be a stupid question, but what precisely is the purpose of grouping
the parts of Monarch's Way, or similar, into relations at all? 
I know that in general, relations allow tags to be applied to the whole
thing, but it escapes me what tags you might want to apply to the whole of a
long distance footpath apart from its name? Am I missing something?

Jonathan.

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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] FW: Monarch's way distributed mapping party Saturday October 8th

2011-09-09 Thread Jonathan Harley

On 08/09/11 22:37, Dave F. wrote:


Before any mapping gets done can we make sure the relation system to 
be used can cope with a long distance route?


http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/52310

This relation is fairly long & upto v341 already. It gives a time out 
error when attempting to view its history.


Instead of having just one relation I think it would be a good idea to 
split it into child/parent relations such as has been done to NCN 4:

...

This may be a stupid question, but what precisely is the purpose of 
grouping the parts of Monarch's Way, or similar, into relations at all? 
I know that in general, relations allow tags to be applied to the whole 
thing, but it escapes me what tags you might want to apply to the whole 
of a long distance footpath apart from its name? Am I missing something?


Jonathan.

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Email: m...@spiffymap.com   Phone: 0845 313 8457   www.spiffymap.com
Post: The Venture Centre, Sir William Lyons Road, Coventry CV4 7EZ


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Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] FW: Monarch's way distributed mapping party Saturday October 8th

2011-09-09 Thread Dave F.

On 24/08/2011 13:14, Andy Robinson (blackadder-lists) wrote:

Widening out to the rest of the gb list.

Cheers
Andy

-Original Message-
From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com]
Sent: 22 August 2011 3:11 PM
To: Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
Subject: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Monarch's way distributed mapping party
Saturday October 8th

Hi everyone

After many hours wrestling with wiki formatting (ugh!) there's a page
devoted to this event where you can sign up

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Monarch%27s_Way_Distibuted_Mapping_Party_October_8


Before any mapping gets done can we make sure the relation system to be 
used can cope with a long distance route?


http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/52310

This relation is fairly long & upto v341 already. It gives a time out 
error when attempting to view its history.


Instead of having just one relation I think it would be a good idea to 
split it into child/parent relations such as has been done to NCN 4:


Parent:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1318931

Children:
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1318929
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1318928
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/1318930

These three are still a bit cumbersome to load so I recommend using at 
least four sections for the Monarch's way.


Cheers
Dave F.





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