Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Road junctions

2019-06-01 Thread Gareth L
Thank you all for your feedback on this. I’ll have a look at the options and 
hopefully get to tidy it up early next week.




From: Brian Prangle 
Sent: Thursday, May 30, 2019 1:35:29 PM
To: Rob Nickerson; OSM Group WM
Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Road junctions

Hi Rob

Replied in a similar vein to Gareth with a  reworked JOSM file for him to study 
and/or upload

Regards

Brian

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:29 PM Rob Nickerson 
mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com>> wrote:
I would put a lot less feeder roads in. How does it look if you only split the 
road when there is a physical object it needs to go around? For example don't 
split the left/right turn lanes when driving frm Technology Drive to Mill Road 
as there is no physical barrier between these lanes.

If you'd like, I can have a go at mapping it how I would do it so that you can 
compare...let me know?

Rob


On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 23:53, Gareth L 
mailto:o...@live.co.uk>> wrote:
Hello all,

Is there a nice example of mapping road junctions? Particularly ones that are 
spread out?
Basically, I’ve had a punt at mapping the junction between technology drive and 
mill road in Rugby. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.38125/-1.24981 It 
has all the turn restrictions correct, and I’d expect it to route beautifully, 
but... avoiding the mapping for the renderer pitfalls, it looks rather rough.
My objective here was actually to allow myself to map the pedestrian/cycle ways 
more clearly - especially the crossing islands - as the crossing doesn’t clear 
right across the junction, just across the lane. The issue is this large T 
junction is spread over a very large area of asphalt with filter lanes etc.

I guess my gripe is having a bunch of ways representing what is really a field 
of asphalt. I’d welcome some advice on this, even if it’s “oh gads, revert that 
to a simple T junction immediately”, although in that case I’d really like to 
know the right way to do it, if such a thing exists.

There’s substantial mapillary and google streetview imagery available of this 
location if you want some context.

Kind regards
Gareth

Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10

___
Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org>
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
___
Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org<mailto:Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org>
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
___
Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands


Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Road junctions

2019-05-30 Thread Brian Prangle
Hi Rob

Replied in a similar vein to Gareth with a  reworked JOSM file for him to
study and/or upload

Regards

Brian

On Thu, May 30, 2019 at 1:29 PM Rob Nickerson 
wrote:

> I would put a lot less feeder roads in. How does it look if you only split
> the road when there is a physical object it needs to go around? For example
> don't split the left/right turn lanes when driving frm Technology Drive to
> Mill Road as there is no physical barrier between these lanes.
>
> If you'd like, I can have a go at mapping it how I would do it so that you
> can compare...let me know?
>
> *Rob*
>
>
> On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 23:53, Gareth L  wrote:
>
>> Hello all,
>>
>>
>>
>> Is there a nice example of mapping road junctions? Particularly ones that
>> are spread out?
>>
>> Basically, I’ve had a punt at mapping the junction between technology
>> drive and mill road in Rugby.
>> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.38125/-1.24981 It has all the
>> turn restrictions correct, and I’d expect it to route beautifully, but...
>> avoiding the mapping for the renderer pitfalls, it looks rather rough.
>>
>> My objective here was actually to allow myself to map the
>> pedestrian/cycle ways more clearly - especially the crossing islands - as
>> the crossing doesn’t clear right across the junction, just across the lane.
>> The issue is this large T junction is spread over a very large area of
>> asphalt with filter lanes etc.
>>
>>
>>
>> I guess my gripe is having a bunch of ways representing what is really a
>> field of asphalt. I’d welcome some advice on this, even if it’s “oh gads,
>> revert that to a simple T junction immediately”, although in that case I’d
>> really like to know the right way to do it, if such a thing exists.
>>
>>
>>
>> There’s substantial mapillary and google streetview imagery available of
>> this location if you want some context.
>>
>>
>>
>> Kind regards
>>
>> Gareth
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from Mail  for
>> Windows 10
>>
>>
>> ___
>> Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
>> Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
>> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
>>
> ___
> Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
> Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
>
___
Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands


Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] Road junctions

2019-05-30 Thread Rob Nickerson
I would put a lot less feeder roads in. How does it look if you only split
the road when there is a physical object it needs to go around? For example
don't split the left/right turn lanes when driving frm Technology Drive to
Mill Road as there is no physical barrier between these lanes.

If you'd like, I can have a go at mapping it how I would do it so that you
can compare...let me know?

*Rob*


On Tue, 28 May 2019 at 23:53, Gareth L  wrote:

> Hello all,
>
>
>
> Is there a nice example of mapping road junctions? Particularly ones that
> are spread out?
>
> Basically, I’ve had a punt at mapping the junction between technology
> drive and mill road in Rugby.
> https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.38125/-1.24981 It has all the
> turn restrictions correct, and I’d expect it to route beautifully, but...
> avoiding the mapping for the renderer pitfalls, it looks rather rough.
>
> My objective here was actually to allow myself to map the pedestrian/cycle
> ways more clearly - especially the crossing islands - as the crossing
> doesn’t clear right across the junction, just across the lane. The issue is
> this large T junction is spread over a very large area of asphalt with
> filter lanes etc.
>
>
>
> I guess my gripe is having a bunch of ways representing what is really a
> field of asphalt. I’d welcome some advice on this, even if it’s “oh gads,
> revert that to a simple T junction immediately”, although in that case I’d
> really like to know the right way to do it, if such a thing exists.
>
>
>
> There’s substantial mapillary and google streetview imagery available of
> this location if you want some context.
>
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> Gareth
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail  for
> Windows 10
>
>
> ___
> Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
> Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
>
___
Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands


[Talk-gb-westmidlands] Road junctions

2019-05-28 Thread Gareth L
Hello all,

Is there a nice example of mapping road junctions? Particularly ones that are 
spread out?
Basically, I’ve had a punt at mapping the junction between technology drive and 
mill road in Rugby. https://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=19/52.38125/-1.24981 It 
has all the turn restrictions correct, and I’d expect it to route beautifully, 
but... avoiding the mapping for the renderer pitfalls, it looks rather rough.
My objective here was actually to allow myself to map the pedestrian/cycle ways 
more clearly - especially the crossing islands - as the crossing doesn’t clear 
right across the junction, just across the lane. The issue is this large T 
junction is spread over a very large area of asphalt with filter lanes etc.

I guess my gripe is having a bunch of ways representing what is really a field 
of asphalt. I’d welcome some advice on this, even if it’s “oh gads, revert that 
to a simple T junction immediately”, although in that case I’d really like to 
know the right way to do it, if such a thing exists.

There’s substantial mapillary and google streetview imagery available of this 
location if you want some context.

Kind regards
Gareth

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

___
Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list
Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org
https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands