Re: [OSM-talk-ie] A UK/GB OpenStreetMap group
Hi Rob, I've been thinking about this recently as I'm putting together a proposed Constitution for OpenStreetMap Ireland at the moment and will be sending it out for feedback shortly. One piece of feedback was that the issue of coverage should be called out in a mission statement or some other formal document. If we are doing this, and you are in the process of setting up OSM UK, then I think we should be smart in how we do it so that its simple in practice, workable and fair for all parties. You also have several regional groups so I'm assuming this will come up anyway in relation to Mappa Mercia, OSM Scotland etc. What I'm thinking is something along the lines of the following: - In terms of membership, leave it to the individual themselves to decide which to join, OSM Ireland or OSM UK. - In terms of logistics, data, resources, everything we have at the moment covers both North & South equally so it makes sense to stay as is. If OSM UK chose to supply additional resources we can always link to those and vice versa without restriction. - In terms of representation, when it comes to looking for data from govt. bodies, again I would keep it simple. For formal (in person, snail mail) representations, if the body is based in NI, it falls to OSM Ireland, if the body is based elsewhere it falls to OSM UK. For informal (email, phone) its open to either entity, but it would be a good idea to for us to contact you in advance (and vice versa) to see if you have already been down the same road before. Those would cover 99.9% of things that might crop up. For the 0.1%, add a statement that anything else can be sorted as they arise, between rep's for each entity and in the event of no agreement, escalate to the OSMF for a final decision (though I can't ever see that being required). Let me know what you think and if you have had this come up in relation to the other smaller groups within the UK so far. Dave On Mon, Aug 3, 2015 at 6:49 PM, Rory McCann wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > Hi Rob, > > Thanks for your email. Yes, we're looking into setting up OSMIE, but > I'm not sure how far along that is at this stage. > > On 02/08/15 13:55, Rob Nickerson wrote: > > Personally I see no problem in going UK and those in NI can then > > join either group (or better still, both). This would work the same > > as if a OSM-Scotland group was formalised - those members can then > > be part of both the OSM-Scotland and OSM-UK/GB group. > > > > That's just my view. What is important to me is that I hear your > > views on this. > > That's basically the decision we came to here on talk-ie. You can see > some of the discussion here ( > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-ie/2014-November/000772.html > ). It makes a lot of sense for some of the things we're doing that > might require talking to outside bodies, such as requesting old maps > for mapping townlands. > > Likewise, I think we're of the view that you can have overlapping > "areas" and people can join which ones they want. > > > Whatever we end up doing I think it would be great if we could > > work together on this. We both are going to need to set up a > > constitution and then once established we can share work and even > > do joint events. > > Definitely! Best of luck! > > Rory > > -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- > Version: GnuPG v1 > > iQEcBAEBAgAGBQJVv6mVAAoJEOrWdmeZivv2IGUH/R49Kq4oHXtzpndl+HE1RFxP > PY/g5Qs6udSfBG+e6RP3rqOurD7uhAM0QmI9gP0ST1lcO/HCLzcATnHaS0bWdiXU > OTqpPSHZSdVEdDA7cXyo51NIUakWHXehvsPBndQTLu1Z4gCNpVuGbgTGgcRtC6Eo > 3/9EkOJ/GKjorA1Q051hZ+cQkt1jIp7vxHQhzPo1zXWOEwmjhAhDZnVYfypTIghG > Z5l98him7GdGHPiXK1rbgAMxF1x7xeBpRQ+UrMi3y3SDpoa44Mpufa06C8mgXKGm > MwrDrpy9hDKJMIIxtYlg3MSmn1I9c1XTk7eGVvyrqNGEYm2J8jmDcXa5W3WJhks= > =iSBI > -END PGP SIGNATURE- > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Design competition for a new logo
Howdy Folks - In case anyone is interested or needs some inspiration as to
how unoriginal you can be with making a logo check out my entry (the lonely
one) here -> http://cbroderick.me/media/cbrod_ireland_logo.svg
All the best,
Colin
On Tue, 4 Aug 2015 at 21:05 Dave Corley wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So the deadline came and went and unfortunately there was only a single
> entry and having a vote with only one option is kind of pointless.
>
> I also contacted a number of people directly who I know are good at this
> sort of stuff but several were in the middle of holidays etc.
>
> Given all of that, after chatting to a few on the best way to proceed, the
> logo competition closing date is going to be extended, this time until
> Friday 11th Sep.
>
> The next meetup is planned for 12th Sep so it will tie in nicely.
>
> That gives 5 weeks for all you budding artists to come up with a design.
>
> It occurred to me that someone might have a great idea for a logo but not
> be able to meet the criteria above, so if you're like me and are
> technically challenged (can't think of a better way to describe it) try
> drawing and scanning something or even use MS Paint. We can always get a
> design refined and tidied up later on if its voted as the favorite.
>
> Best of luck,
> Dave
>
> On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Dave Corley wrote:
>
> > Hi all,
> >
> > So at the last meetup one thing everyone agreed was that we need to get
> > moving on forming into a proper entity. Its something that has been
> spoken
> > about off an on for the last 2 years and something which we have done
> > little about.
> >
> > With that in mind, I spent most of the meetup working on the website
> > www.openstreetmap.ie and its starting to come together nicely.
> >
> > Cliff originally designed the logo on that site but pointed out in a
> > recent email that it was something that was intended as a placeholder
> only
> > and that a better logo is probably achievable.
> >
> > On that basis, using the recent JOSM & Hot logo competition parameters as
> > a guideline, I'd like to announce a competition for a new logo for
> > OpenStreetMap Ireland. This logo will primarily be used on the website
> and
> > twitter, however in time and with the right resources there's no reason
> it
> > wouldn't end up on stickers, t-shirts etc.
> >
> > On to the competition guidelines
> >
> > *Competition Rules*
> >
> >- The competition is open to anyone. Entrants can be an individual or
> >team of people, even a design company
> >- Entries must be in SVG format
> >- Entry designs should be emailed to my at davecor...@gmail.com as
> >attached SVG file(s) with a subject line of "Logo entry from XYZ"
> >- Entries must be received before midnight GMT on 17th July 2015
> >- Artists can make variations of other public domain artwork, although
> >credit must be given where credit is due (and credit will be given
> when the
> >winner is chosen)
> >- Individuals are allowed to submit multiple entries, but you are
> >encouraged to put work into one or two designs, and no more than five.
> >- The winning design will be chosen by a community vote to be held
> >during a one week period from 20th-26th July 2015
> >- The winning design will be announced on 01st Aug 2015
> >- Have fun!
> >
> > *Design Brief*
> >
> > *Conceptual Suggestions*
> >
> >- Remember, OpenStreetMap Ireland is a cross border group so steer
> >clear of a design that is overtly Southern or Northern focused
> >- The logo should use the current OpenStreetMap logo as a basis, but
> >don't let that constrain your design, some out of the box surreal
> design
> >might look awesome but then something super simple might look just as
> good
> >so don't dismiss anything
> >- You may find inspiration among other community designs at
> >http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos#Logo_design_competitions or
> >the JOSM competition enteries
> >https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/LogoContest
> >
> > *Where will the logo be used?*
> >
> >- The twitter account
> >- We will also use the logo in the openstreetmap.ie homepage
> >- Other electronic materials, proposal documents, presentation slides
> >etc.
> >- It may get used on printed materials: Letter headings, small
> >stickers ('moo.com' size), large stickers (to go on boxes), T-shirts.
> >- Any other creative uses by the community promoting OpenStreetMap in
> >Ireland.
> >
> > *Design requirements*
> >
> >- *Vector -* The design must be available in a vector format. If you
> >do not know how to create SVG, team up with someone who does.
> >- *Copyright.* You must be willing and able to waive all rights to
> >your design, handing over copyright ownership to OpenStreetMap
> Ireland,
> >granting them a complete and irrevocable right to use, adapt,
> distribute
> >the work. Of course, we intend to allow all use and re-use, bu
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Design competition for a new logo
Hi all,
So the deadline came and went and unfortunately there was only a single
entry and having a vote with only one option is kind of pointless.
I also contacted a number of people directly who I know are good at this
sort of stuff but several were in the middle of holidays etc.
Given all of that, after chatting to a few on the best way to proceed, the
logo competition closing date is going to be extended, this time until
Friday 11th Sep.
The next meetup is planned for 12th Sep so it will tie in nicely.
That gives 5 weeks for all you budding artists to come up with a design.
It occurred to me that someone might have a great idea for a logo but not
be able to meet the criteria above, so if you're like me and are
technically challenged (can't think of a better way to describe it) try
drawing and scanning something or even use MS Paint. We can always get a
design refined and tidied up later on if its voted as the favorite.
Best of luck,
Dave
On Wed, Jul 1, 2015 at 4:35 PM, Dave Corley wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> So at the last meetup one thing everyone agreed was that we need to get
> moving on forming into a proper entity. Its something that has been spoken
> about off an on for the last 2 years and something which we have done
> little about.
>
> With that in mind, I spent most of the meetup working on the website
> www.openstreetmap.ie and its starting to come together nicely.
>
> Cliff originally designed the logo on that site but pointed out in a
> recent email that it was something that was intended as a placeholder only
> and that a better logo is probably achievable.
>
> On that basis, using the recent JOSM & Hot logo competition parameters as
> a guideline, I'd like to announce a competition for a new logo for
> OpenStreetMap Ireland. This logo will primarily be used on the website and
> twitter, however in time and with the right resources there's no reason it
> wouldn't end up on stickers, t-shirts etc.
>
> On to the competition guidelines
>
> *Competition Rules*
>
>- The competition is open to anyone. Entrants can be an individual or
>team of people, even a design company
>- Entries must be in SVG format
>- Entry designs should be emailed to my at davecor...@gmail.com as
>attached SVG file(s) with a subject line of "Logo entry from XYZ"
>- Entries must be received before midnight GMT on 17th July 2015
>- Artists can make variations of other public domain artwork, although
>credit must be given where credit is due (and credit will be given when the
>winner is chosen)
>- Individuals are allowed to submit multiple entries, but you are
>encouraged to put work into one or two designs, and no more than five.
>- The winning design will be chosen by a community vote to be held
>during a one week period from 20th-26th July 2015
>- The winning design will be announced on 01st Aug 2015
>- Have fun!
>
> *Design Brief*
>
> *Conceptual Suggestions*
>
>- Remember, OpenStreetMap Ireland is a cross border group so steer
>clear of a design that is overtly Southern or Northern focused
>- The logo should use the current OpenStreetMap logo as a basis, but
>don't let that constrain your design, some out of the box surreal design
>might look awesome but then something super simple might look just as good
>so don't dismiss anything
>- You may find inspiration among other community designs at
>http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Logos#Logo_design_competitions or
>the JOSM competition enteries
>https://josm.openstreetmap.de/wiki/LogoContest
>
> *Where will the logo be used?*
>
>- The twitter account
>- We will also use the logo in the openstreetmap.ie homepage
>- Other electronic materials, proposal documents, presentation slides
>etc.
>- It may get used on printed materials: Letter headings, small
>stickers ('moo.com' size), large stickers (to go on boxes), T-shirts.
>- Any other creative uses by the community promoting OpenStreetMap in
>Ireland.
>
> *Design requirements*
>
>- *Vector -* The design must be available in a vector format. If you
>do not know how to create SVG, team up with someone who does.
>- *Copyright.* You must be willing and able to waive all rights to
>your design, handing over copyright ownership to OpenStreetMap Ireland,
>granting them a complete and irrevocable right to use, adapt, distribute
>the work. Of course, we intend to allow all use and re-use, but we may at
>some point need to register the design as a trademark. Let's do away with
>any awkward legal barriers up front. We also promise the winning artist(s)
>will be credited, including a link of their choice, on the
>openstreetmap.ie blog, but beyond that we do not guarantee any
>attribution, and certainly don't want to require it for downstream uses.
>- *Square -* We're looking for a logo which fits OK in a square area.
>This is to fit with the twitter requ
