Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mobile speed camera zones

2016-08-18 Thread Daniel Cussen
>I'd also be hesitant to remove pre-existing data if it's not incorrect. Is 
>there a reason you >want to do this? Sorry, just trying to understand.

In simple terms there were different mobile camera zones. Over time
some were added and some removed by garda. The garda data is the
correct set. Zones are changed every few years.

Fixed cameras are a different matter. I believe most do not work and
are in areas long bypassed, but there are notable exceptions. We can
manually confirm this. We will also need to manually confirm speed
limits but that is a different project. There are lots of new 30km/h
zone signs popping up everywhere.

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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mobile speed camera zones

2016-08-18 Thread Dave Corley
Daniel,

Fair play on the work so far.

It would be a good idea to review the import guidelines page before
proceeding with any import to prevent errors or incurring the wrath of the
DWG.

http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

I'd also be hesitant to remove pre-existing data if it's not incorrect. Is
there a reason you want to do this? Sorry, just trying to understand.

It might be a case, for this type of data, that a layer be created that can
be used in josm/id to manually add the info.

Also, just to note, in terms of licensing, the ok hasn't been given yet for
CC-BY 4.0 data in OSM, which is what all Irish open data is licensed under.
I mentioned this in an earlier mail so it's something to be aware of. I'll
follow up again and see if there has been a response from Creative Commons.
I had hoped to have this resolved before people found data to import but
you work faster ;)

Dave

On 18 Aug 2016 20:38, "Daniel Cussen"  wrote:

> To answer a question asked in another thread, I have not progressed this
> yet.
> I think Rory may be the ideal person to progress if he is willing to
> volunteer.
>
> I think what needs to be done is all mobile speed camera zones in ROI
> need to be removed, and then the data formatted and imported into OSM.
>
> Rory are you interested?
>
> On 12/06/2016, Daniel Cussen  wrote:
> > We now have permission to use the Garda mobile zone data.
> > See:
> > https://www.tog.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Page1.jpg
> > https://www.tog.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Page2.jpg
> >
> > The data is here:
> > http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=5590=1
> > in particular:
> > http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/SafetyZones19052016.kmz
> >
> > I am not good with data processing. My suggestion is to remove all
> > exising speed zones from ROI OSM and then try to replace them with the
> > latest Garda data. I am not sure how to do this, hopefully someone
> > here can help.
> >
> > Ideally I would like the data to trigger warnings in apps like OsmAnd
> >
> > Here is some info on enforcement tags:
> > http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement
> >
>
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Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Mobile speed camera zones

2016-08-18 Thread Daniel Cussen
To answer a question asked in another thread, I have not progressed this yet.
I think Rory may be the ideal person to progress if he is willing to volunteer.

I think what needs to be done is all mobile speed camera zones in ROI
need to be removed, and then the data formatted and imported into OSM.

Rory are you interested?

On 12/06/2016, Daniel Cussen  wrote:
> We now have permission to use the Garda mobile zone data.
> See:
> https://www.tog.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Page1.jpg
> https://www.tog.ie/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/Page2.jpg
>
> The data is here:
> http://www.garda.ie/Controller.aspx?Page=5590=1
> in particular:
> http://www.garda.ie/Documents/User/SafetyZones19052016.kmz
>
> I am not good with data processing. My suggestion is to remove all
> exising speed zones from ROI OSM and then try to replace them with the
> latest Garda data. I am not sure how to do this, hopefully someone
> here can help.
>
> Ideally I would like the data to trigger warnings in apps like OsmAnd
>
> Here is some info on enforcement tags:
> http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:enforcement
>

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