Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Did you add Electoral Divisions or DEDs to OSM?
...other than for the division of EDs into rural and urban parts after 1898 and the set-up of urban and rural districts. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 2:30 PM Patrick Matthews wrote: > I know that for both Longford and Cavan where I mapped EDs the ED > boundaries have not changed since they were first set up in the 1840s. > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 1:25 PM Donal Hunt wrote: > >> I suspect Brian is trying to ascertain what sources were used for mapping >> each ED. We may have to look at the history of the relations / boundaries >> to identify the mappers / changesets. >> >> Going forward it would be wise to include the source on the actual >> boundary >> so it can be verified / it's clear where it was sourced from. >> >> Donal >> >> >> On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 12:13, Patrick Matthews >> wrote: >> >> > Brian, >> > >> > As far as I know there were only a few changes in DED boundaries between >> > 1901 and 1911, most of them consisting of a new DED being split off >> from an >> > existing one (Derry from Roscarbery in Cork, Glenanne in Armagh). The >> 1911 >> > census reports are available at >> > https://archive.org/search.php?query=1911%20census%20ireland >> > >> > Paddy. >> > >> > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:56 AM Brian Hollinshead > > >> > wrote: >> > >> > > If you did, can you please remember what date applied and what sources >> > were >> > > used? >> > > >> > > It was recently remarked that some of the Dublin ones were only dated >> > 1901. >> > > As I added quite a few of them using the 1901 census index because I >> knew >> > > no better, I am curious as to what was used across the country. >> > > >> > > If I had access to those countrywide ED sources I would like compare >> some >> > > with my 1901 boundaries to see how closely, if at all, they match. >> With >> > > hindsight, nationwide conformity would be good. If changes or >> > replacements >> > > are needed it would be nicer to do it during the remaining two weeks >> > rather >> > > than after liberation. >> > > ___ >> > > Talk-ie mailing list >> > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> > > >> > ___ >> > Talk-ie mailing list >> > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> > >> ___ >> Talk-ie mailing list >> Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org >> https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie >> > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Did you add Electoral Divisions or DEDs to OSM?
I know that for both Longford and Cavan where I mapped EDs the ED boundaries have not changed since they were first set up in the 1840s. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 1:25 PM Donal Hunt wrote: > I suspect Brian is trying to ascertain what sources were used for mapping > each ED. We may have to look at the history of the relations / boundaries > to identify the mappers / changesets. > > Going forward it would be wise to include the source on the actual boundary > so it can be verified / it's clear where it was sourced from. > > Donal > > > On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 12:13, Patrick Matthews > wrote: > > > Brian, > > > > As far as I know there were only a few changes in DED boundaries between > > 1901 and 1911, most of them consisting of a new DED being split off from > an > > existing one (Derry from Roscarbery in Cork, Glenanne in Armagh). The > 1911 > > census reports are available at > > https://archive.org/search.php?query=1911%20census%20ireland > > > > Paddy. > > > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:56 AM Brian Hollinshead > > wrote: > > > > > If you did, can you please remember what date applied and what sources > > were > > > used? > > > > > > It was recently remarked that some of the Dublin ones were only dated > > 1901. > > > As I added quite a few of them using the 1901 census index because I > knew > > > no better, I am curious as to what was used across the country. > > > > > > If I had access to those countrywide ED sources I would like compare > some > > > with my 1901 boundaries to see how closely, if at all, they match. With > > > hindsight, nationwide conformity would be good. If changes or > > replacements > > > are needed it would be nicer to do it during the remaining two weeks > > rather > > > than after liberation. > > > ___ > > > Talk-ie mailing list > > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > > > ___ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Did you add Electoral Divisions or DEDs to OSM?
I suspect Brian is trying to ascertain what sources were used for mapping each ED. We may have to look at the history of the relations / boundaries to identify the mappers / changesets. Going forward it would be wise to include the source on the actual boundary so it can be verified / it's clear where it was sourced from. Donal On Thu, 5 Nov 2020 at 12:13, Patrick Matthews wrote: > Brian, > > As far as I know there were only a few changes in DED boundaries between > 1901 and 1911, most of them consisting of a new DED being split off from an > existing one (Derry from Roscarbery in Cork, Glenanne in Armagh). The 1911 > census reports are available at > https://archive.org/search.php?query=1911%20census%20ireland > > Paddy. > > On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:56 AM Brian Hollinshead > wrote: > > > If you did, can you please remember what date applied and what sources > were > > used? > > > > It was recently remarked that some of the Dublin ones were only dated > 1901. > > As I added quite a few of them using the 1901 census index because I knew > > no better, I am curious as to what was used across the country. > > > > If I had access to those countrywide ED sources I would like compare some > > with my 1901 boundaries to see how closely, if at all, they match. With > > hindsight, nationwide conformity would be good. If changes or > replacements > > are needed it would be nicer to do it during the remaining two weeks > rather > > than after liberation. > > ___ > > Talk-ie mailing list > > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > > > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
Re: [OSM-talk-ie] Did you add Electoral Divisions or DEDs to OSM?
Brian, As far as I know there were only a few changes in DED boundaries between 1901 and 1911, most of them consisting of a new DED being split off from an existing one (Derry from Roscarbery in Cork, Glenanne in Armagh). The 1911 census reports are available at https://archive.org/search.php?query=1911%20census%20ireland Paddy. On Thu, Nov 5, 2020 at 9:56 AM Brian Hollinshead wrote: > If you did, can you please remember what date applied and what sources were > used? > > It was recently remarked that some of the Dublin ones were only dated 1901. > As I added quite a few of them using the 1901 census index because I knew > no better, I am curious as to what was used across the country. > > If I had access to those countrywide ED sources I would like compare some > with my 1901 boundaries to see how closely, if at all, they match. With > hindsight, nationwide conformity would be good. If changes or replacements > are needed it would be nicer to do it during the remaining two weeks rather > than after liberation. > ___ > Talk-ie mailing list > Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org > https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie > ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
[OSM-talk-ie] Did you add Electoral Divisions or DEDs to OSM?
If you did, can you please remember what date applied and what sources were used? It was recently remarked that some of the Dublin ones were only dated 1901. As I added quite a few of them using the 1901 census index because I knew no better, I am curious as to what was used across the country. If I had access to those countrywide ED sources I would like compare some with my 1901 boundaries to see how closely, if at all, they match. With hindsight, nationwide conformity would be good. If changes or replacements are needed it would be nicer to do it during the remaining two weeks rather than after liberation. ___ Talk-ie mailing list Talk-ie@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ie
