Re: [OSM-talk] Overpass API v0.7.50 almost done
On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:03 AM, Roland Olbricht roland.olbri...@gmx.de wrote: Dear all, first of all a big thank you to all who have contributed to the SSD funding or to the general FOSSGIS funding for Overpass API. I will publish before SotM-EU 2014 a new stable Overpass API release, the first since about a year. To avoid confusion, I would like to sketch what it does and what it doesn't and how this relates to the running service. A proper documentation will be written along with the workshop slides for the SotM-EU. Roland, thanks for all of you continued work on Overpass, it is an invaluable resource for most of us. Thanks, Simone. -- -S ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Canadian OSM POI quality
I was curious how complete OpenStreetMap shop data was, so decided to do an analysis for some Canadian chains. The results were mixed. Starting with a Canada extract, I processed the data into PostGIS and ran queries against name, brand and franchise for objects where amenity, office or shop was null. Brands which have recently changed names (e.g. Zellers/Target) were avoided. OSM completeness varied from 7% to 81%, with no overwhelming trends. The four major fast food and restaurants chains considered ranged from 33% to 51%. Shops opening and closing change the accuracy of these results, and the accuracy of the external sources for number of shops may be variable. Method == The geofabrik extract for Canada was imported with osm2pgsql with a custom .style file containing name, operator, brand, franchise, amenity, building, office and shop columns. The last four columns caused an object to be placed in the polygon table. After import, the tables were filtered to remove rows where there was not an amenity, office, or shop tag. Appropriate indexes were added. A view was created combining the two tables and giving lower-case versions of the name, operator, brand and franchise tags. Queries of the following form were run SELECT COUNT(*) FROM shops WHERE lname LIKE :'name' OR lbrand LIKE :'name' OR lfranchise LIKE :'name'; :'name' was substituted in by psql for what I was searching for. For example, 'mcdonald%' for McDonald's. The queries used were intended to catch all possible shops even if it resulted in false positives. Brand selection was not done in any systematic manner. Public sources were used for the true number of shops of a particular chain, generally Wikipedia or public data aggregators. Results === OSM True Completenmess Tim Horton's 1480 4304 34% Subway 849 2563 33% McDonalds 722 1417 51% Starbucks 592 1363 43% Both OSM and Google use both Starbucks and Starbucks Coffee A W 292800 37% Domino's67383 17% Wendy's224369 61% Burger King150281 53% East Side Mario's 46 85 54% Milestones 32 44 73% Chili's 10 16 63% Sears 105 15707% Rona 122500 24% The Bay 50421 12% Walmart265382 69% Home Depot 95180 53% Canadian Tire 400491 81% May be double-counting automative centers. Chapters47233 20% Sleep Country 22179 12% London Drugs54 78 69% May be double-counting some stores with a pharmacy inside Remarks === It took significantly longer to find the true number of stores than to get results from the OSM data. Part of this is my increased familiarity with OSM tools, but a large part is that it is not necessary to track down many different sources to get store counts. Although no urban/rural analysis was performed, it is generally expected that OSM is more complete in populated urban areas than low-density rural areas, and completeness in these urban areas are often more important for many uses. No proprietary data sources were available for comparison, but it should not be assumed that they are any more complete, nor that their name or similar tagging is any more consistent. As an example, Google's data was observed to use both Starbucks and Starbucks Coffee for the coffee chain, sometimes having both for what was really the same location. The tools used to generate counts could easily be used to extract the shop data to work with. Improving the data == Inconsistent tagging was observed with some shops, such as variability between amenity=restaurant and amenity=fast_food. This should reflect differences between locations but may not. Inconsistent names were also observed, such as Walmart, Wal-mart, and Wal Mart. These issues are not as significant as the large percentage of missing shops. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] gpsbabel and osm (.osm.cc file)
Hi folks, Recently I noticed that gpsbabel still uses version='0.5' string in its osm.cc (1). Latest josm for example complains now when it does not find version='0.6' string. I told gpsbabel about it in their mailing list (2). Today I got a reply (3): We don't really use the OSM API; we just read and write OSM XML files. The doc you cite doesn't appear to be relevant to our use. If 0.5 and 0.6 are different in some incompatible way, we need informationon what to change, sample files, etc. I don't think we haveany active OSMusers on our lists, so if you're interested in making this better, you can advance things. If it's been broken since 2009 and you're the first to notice, we should probably drop it as it's received only mechanical changes since 2008. The first step will be to identify the needed changes. If you're ready to tackle it, the OSM code is a little grubby, but you can see it at https://code.google.com/p/gpsbabel/source/browse/trunk/gpsbabel/osm.cc I wrote back Well, all programs using .osm files understand version='0.6' now but some programs (like well-known josm) complain now when trying to open a file with version='0.5' string. and reply on that I just committed the change, but I've A) marked OSM for deprecationsince you're apparently the only one that's used it in five yeras andB) find gratuitous, pointlessly incompatible changes silly. I use gpsbabel not very often and don't know about other osm users but there might be some .cc developpers which might want to check their code (1). greetings Roman (1) https://code.google.com/p/gpsbabel/source/browse/trunk/gpsbabel/osm.cc (2) http://sourceforge.net/p/gpsbabel/mailman/message/32426224/ (3) http://sourceforge.net/p/gpsbabel/mailman/message/32434559/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [Talk-br] Edição destrutiva em BH
Obrigado Arlindo,eu não tenho como verificar como estava o mapa antes da minha edição,o que pretendo fazer é acrescentar ao mapa semáforos e travessias para pedestre,nos cruzamentos onde fiz alterações. Ob: encontrei a solução para evitar estes problemas, ativei a opção ver ícones de nós no vespucci. abraço. Gerson, Não se preocupe. Todos podemos cometer erros, novatos ou experientes. Tenha certeza que você contribuiu muito mais que eventualmente tenha prejudicado com esse engano. Abraços e feliz mapeamento! =) Arlindo Em 07/06/2014 13:13, Gerson Barcelos gbst...@gmail.com escreveu: Antes de mais nada,quero tornar público,o meu pedido de desculpas aos mapeadores e usuários do OSM,pelos possiveis transtornos por mim causados com edições que fiz,nas quais apaguei linhas e pontos,com a intenção única e exclusiva de melhorar o cálculo de rotas para veículos automotores,me esquecendo que a proposta do OSM vai muito além disso,porém prometo que me empenharei ao máximo para reverter a situação;a descoberta dos erros só foi possível graças a uma conversa com o Fernando Trebien para esclarecer dúvidas sobre restrição de manobra ,onde constatamos que a imagem captada pelo VESPUCCI (ferramenta que uso para editar) não contêm informações detalhadas dos pontos que representam as travessia para pedestres e semáforos,o que é perfeitamente visível nas imagens geradas pelo JOSM,por este motivo é bem provável,que eu tenha exluido do mapa rotas de ônibus, faixas de pedestres e semáforos,se alguém tiver disponibilidade de colaborar comigo na reversão,as edições em questão estão representas no site do OSM por comentários do tipo;corrigindo o traçado da via,apagando linhas e nós,corrigindo ou ajustando o cruzamento,no mais gradeço a todos pela compreensão. Me senti na obrigação de publicar este texto por entender,que se não o fizesse estaria traindo a confiança dos membros desta lista que me incentivaram e a todos que de uma foma direta ou indireta estão sempre contribuíndo com informações sobre edição e uso OSM. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Edição deformativa
Em Valparaíso-GO, estas duas vias: https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/103070516/history, https://www.openstreetmap.org/way/160999476/history estão com formas deformadas. O changeset que possivelmente as deformou foi este: https://www.openstreetmap.org/changeset/22239474 Alguém poderia ver se é isto mesmo, e se for o caso, fazer uma reversão? Obrigado. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Edição destrutiva em BH
Gerson, os benefícios que você tem contribuído são maiores que os problemas. Como você é taxista no local vai poder acrescentar os semáforos facilmente e atualizados.. Em 8 de junho de 2014 10:25, Gerson Barcelos gbst...@gmail.com escreveu: Obrigado Arlindo,eu não tenho como verificar como estava o mapa antes da minha edição,o que pretendo fazer é acrescentar ao mapa semáforos e travessias para pedestre,nos cruzamentos onde fiz alterações. Ob: encontrei a solução para evitar estes problemas, ativei a opção ver ícones de nós no vespucci. abraço. Gerson, Não se preocupe. Todos podemos cometer erros, novatos ou experientes. Tenha certeza que você contribuiu muito mais que eventualmente tenha prejudicado com esse engano. Abraços e feliz mapeamento! =) Arlindo Em 07/06/2014 13:13, Gerson Barcelos gbst...@gmail.com escreveu: Antes de mais nada,quero tornar público,o meu pedido de desculpas aos mapeadores e usuários do OSM,pelos possiveis transtornos por mim causados com edições que fiz,nas quais apaguei linhas e pontos,com a intenção única e exclusiva de melhorar o cálculo de rotas para veículos automotores,me esquecendo que a proposta do OSM vai muito além disso,porém prometo que me empenharei ao máximo para reverter a situação;a descoberta dos erros só foi possível graças a uma conversa com o Fernando Trebien para esclarecer dúvidas sobre restrição de manobra ,onde constatamos que a imagem captada pelo VESPUCCI (ferramenta que uso para editar) não contêm informações detalhadas dos pontos que representam as travessia para pedestres e semáforos,o que é perfeitamente visível nas imagens geradas pelo JOSM,por este motivo é bem provável,que eu tenha exluido do mapa rotas de ônibus, faixas de pedestres e semáforos,se alguém tiver disponibilidade de colaborar comigo na reversão,as edições em questão estão representas no site do OSM por comentários do tipo;corrigindo o traçado da via,apagando linhas e nós,corrigindo ou ajustando o cruzamento,no mais gradeço a todos pela compreensão. Me senti na obrigação de publicar este texto por entender,que se não o fizesse estaria traindo a confiança dos membros desta lista que me incentivaram e a todos que de uma foma direta ou indireta estão sempre contribuíndo com informações sobre edição e uso OSM. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Cordeiro de Deus que tira os pecados do mundo, tenha piedade de nós... ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
Re: [Talk-br] Edição destrutiva em BH
valeu Wallace Em 08/06/2014 17:16, Wallace Silva wsi...@gmail.com escreveu: Gerson, os benefícios que você tem contribuído são maiores que os problemas. Como você é taxista no local vai poder acrescentar os semáforos facilmente e atualizados.. Em 8 de junho de 2014 10:25, Gerson Barcelos gbst...@gmail.com escreveu: Obrigado Arlindo,eu não tenho como verificar como estava o mapa antes da minha edição,o que pretendo fazer é acrescentar ao mapa semáforos e travessias para pedestre,nos cruzamentos onde fiz alterações. Ob: encontrei a solução para evitar estes problemas, ativei a opção ver ícones de nós no vespucci. abraço. Gerson, Não se preocupe. Todos podemos cometer erros, novatos ou experientes. Tenha certeza que você contribuiu muito mais que eventualmente tenha prejudicado com esse engano. Abraços e feliz mapeamento! =) Arlindo Em 07/06/2014 13:13, Gerson Barcelos gbst...@gmail.com escreveu: Antes de mais nada,quero tornar público,o meu pedido de desculpas aos mapeadores e usuários do OSM,pelos possiveis transtornos por mim causados com edições que fiz,nas quais apaguei linhas e pontos,com a intenção única e exclusiva de melhorar o cálculo de rotas para veículos automotores,me esquecendo que a proposta do OSM vai muito além disso,porém prometo que me empenharei ao máximo para reverter a situação;a descoberta dos erros só foi possível graças a uma conversa com o Fernando Trebien para esclarecer dúvidas sobre restrição de manobra ,onde constatamos que a imagem captada pelo VESPUCCI (ferramenta que uso para editar) não contêm informações detalhadas dos pontos que representam as travessia para pedestres e semáforos,o que é perfeitamente visível nas imagens geradas pelo JOSM,por este motivo é bem provável,que eu tenha exluido do mapa rotas de ônibus, faixas de pedestres e semáforos,se alguém tiver disponibilidade de colaborar comigo na reversão,as edições em questão estão representas no site do OSM por comentários do tipo;corrigindo o traçado da via,apagando linhas e nós,corrigindo ou ajustando o cruzamento,no mais gradeço a todos pela compreensão. Me senti na obrigação de publicar este texto por entender,que se não o fizesse estaria traindo a confiança dos membros desta lista que me incentivaram e a todos que de uma foma direta ou indireta estão sempre contribuíndo com informações sobre edição e uso OSM. ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br -- Cordeiro de Deus que tira os pecados do mundo, tenha piedade de nós... ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-br] Novos kits de compilação Garmin
Amigos, Foram disponibilizadas novas versões dos kits de compilação de mapas Garmin com muitos pedidos de melhorias atendidos: - Colocado --link-pois-to-ways como opção de compilação para evitar que vias com barreiras sejam usadas no roteamento; - Grafia correta do nome do projeto OpenStreetMap no texto do copyright; - Corrigida uma ordem de definição de variáveis que estava fazendo algumas variáveis ficarem em branco ou com valor incompleto; - As opções --country-abbr=BRA e --country-name=Brasil, iguais para todos os mapas, estavam sendo redefinidas localmente; - Os arquivos gerados não têm mais nomes com espaços em branco; - Removida duplicação da biblioteca osmpbf.jar na pasta requisitos; - Incluída regra em \requisitos\cocar_style_file\polygons para dar suporte a postos formatados como polígonos, para os quais não estavam sendo gerados os POIs correspondentes; - Os limites administrativos dos níveis 3, 5, 6, 7 e 9 não estão mais sendo incluídos. Além de não suportados pelo formato Garmin, eles estavam deixando o preprocessamento de limites administrativos mais pesado. Os limites aproveitáveis para Garmin são os de níveis 2(país), 4(estado), 8(município) e 10(bairro); - A configuração de arquivo TYP default passa a ser em branco, para usar o TYP default provido pelo compilador, que proporciona modo noturo. Os TYPs atualmente fornecidos com o kit não têm modo noturno, o que incomoda os motoristas usando os mapas à noite com o excesso de brilho na tela do GPS; - A product version tal como registrada no IMG segue o padrão AA.MM (ano.mês) ao invés de MMDD; - O padrão de nome do mapa do Brasil (CR-BR) segue AA.MM ao invés de MMDD mais adequado aos conjuntos estaduais; - Quando o kit atualiza o mapa-base local brazil-latest.osm.pbf, uma cópia da versão antes da atualização passa a ser salva com o nome de brazil-anterior.osm.pbf para facilitar os testes; - Corrigido o problema de alguns locais constarem SEM ESTADO como unidade federativa; - Os estados aparecem com suas siglas, nos resultados das buscas; - Há agora um .BAT separado, mais simples, somente para compilar o mapa do Brasil. http://www.cocardl.com.br/viewtopic.php?f=23t=114 abraço, Paulo Carvalho ___ Talk-br mailing list Talk-br@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-br
[Talk-de] Mailinglisten
*Hallo Liste, ich würde für mich und andere Mapper der Region Harz gerne eine Mailingliste nutzen. Ich habe die Wiki-Seite[1] dazu gelesen und die die Listenverwalter angeschrieben. Leider erhalte ich keine Antwort. Auch nach einer weiteren Mail zwei Wochen später habe ich wiederholt keine Antwort erhalten. Ist die E-Mail Adresse listenverwal...@openstreetmap.de noch aktuell? An wen kann man sich wenden? Gruß Thorsten [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Deutsche_Mailinglisten * ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-in] Societal GIS
On a summer jaunt at Ooty tried OsmAnd and GpsEssentials for doing some societal GIS. Found the Android apps quite good and accurate. Environmentalists and Osmmers alike can chipin to make tourism more eco-friendly and heritage oriented. http://wiki.osgeo.org/wiki/User_talk:Ravivundavalli#Societal_GIS_with_OsmAnd_and_GPSessentials___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] Civici FVG
(Semi OT) Ci sono anche delle belle mappe del 1923, anche georiferite[*]. Ciao, C [*] http://irdat.regione.fvg.it/Distributore/download?idFmt=1301type=lclidDset=10028path=Vincoli_idrogeologici/TRIESTE.zip ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] violazione a Pavia
ho mandato anche questo: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=908938589123703set=o.343595282445372type=1 e forse ho trovato una mail. 2014-06-05 10:45 GMT+02:00 Simone Cortesi sim...@osmfoundation.org: Nuova violazione OSM a Pavia. -- Forwarded message -- From: Simone Cortesi sim...@osmfoundation.org Date: 2014-06-05 10:41 GMT+02:00 Subject: violazione To: frailticinoei...@gmail.com Salve, ho trovato il vostro contatto sul sito [0] Scrivo per segnalarvi la violazione da parte vostra del diritto d'autore del progetto OpenStreetMap: http://osm.org in zona Francana - a Pavia, è stato trovato un cartello informativo su cui è raffigurata la seguente mappa http://imgur.com/95tpJoR copiata in maniera inequivocabile da OpenStreetMap, come si può notare qui [1] I nostri termini d'uso permettono sì il riutilizzo commerciale, ma obblgano a citare la fonte in qualunque visualizzazione pubblica della mappa [2], quindi nel caso in esame DEVE essere evidente la provenienza dell'immagine. Attendo una vostra risposta con proposta di azione correttiva sulla cartellonistica. Grazie, Simone Cortesi [0] http://www.frailticinoeilpo.info/ [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/#map=14/45.1768/9.1841 [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/copyright -- -S -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it-trentino] e-Motion Bike Sharing Trentino
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 Il 08/06/2014 15:27, Matteo Quatrida ha scritto: Ciao, non c'è verso di fargli adottare OSM [1], vero? Buona domenica a tutti. PS. Com'è andata a Vervò? Qualcuno c'è stato? [1]: http://bicincitta.tobike.it/frmLeStazioni.aspx?ID=187 ** *Matteo Quatrida* Hai già mandato una Email? - -- Simone Girardelli -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: GnuPG v1 iF4EAREIAAYFAlOUmP8ACgkQoVS0hKoD3PNxoAD/SoSfPTIxCFTPAVUPn6f2kEm8 5/sS/eJ34QuvFQDSEp8A/0bM16nbVo0p9miDlO2wgzeTClOAdK8Tqu7Q/RZZcZut =UMa4 -END PGP SIGNATURE- ___ Talk-it-trentino mailing list Talk-it-trentino@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it-trentino
[Talk-ca] Canadian OSM POI quality
I was curious how complete OpenStreetMap shop data was, so decided to do an analysis for some Canadian chains. The results were mixed. Starting with a Canada extract, I processed the data into PostGIS and ran queries against name, brand and franchise for objects where amenity, office or shop was null. Brands which have recently changed names (e.g. Zellers/Target) were avoided. OSM completeness varied from 7% to 81%, with no overwhelming trends. The four major fast food and restaurants chains considered ranged from 33% to 51%. Shops opening and closing change the accuracy of these results, and the accuracy of the external sources for number of shops may be variable. Method == The geofabrik extract for Canada was imported with osm2pgsql with a custom .style file containing name, operator, brand, franchise, amenity, building, office and shop columns. The last four columns caused an object to be placed in the polygon table. After import, the tables were filtered to remove rows where there was not an amenity, office, or shop tag. Appropriate indexes were added. A view was created combining the two tables and giving lower-case versions of the name, operator, brand and franchise tags. Queries of the following form were run SELECT COUNT(*) FROM shops WHERE lname LIKE :'name' OR lbrand LIKE :'name' OR lfranchise LIKE :'name'; :'name' was substituted in by psql for what I was searching for. For example, 'mcdonald%' for McDonald's. The queries used were intended to catch all possible shops even if it resulted in false positives. Brand selection was not done in any systematic manner. Public sources were used for the true number of shops of a particular chain, generally Wikipedia or public data aggregators. Results === OSM True Completenmess Tim Horton's 1480 4304 34% Subway 849 2563 33% McDonalds 722 1417 51% Starbucks 592 1363 43% Both OSM and Google use both Starbucks and Starbucks Coffee A W 292800 37% Domino's67383 17% Wendy's224369 61% Burger King150281 53% East Side Mario's 46 85 54% Milestones 32 44 73% Chili's 10 16 63% Sears 105 15707% Rona 122500 24% The Bay 50421 12% Walmart265382 69% Home Depot 95180 53% Canadian Tire 400491 81% May be double-counting automative centers. Chapters47233 20% Sleep Country 22179 12% London Drugs54 78 69% May be double-counting some stores with a pharmacy inside Remarks === It took significantly longer to find the true number of stores than to get results from the OSM data. Part of this is my increased familiarity with OSM tools, but a large part is that it is not necessary to track down many different sources to get store counts. Although no urban/rural analysis was performed, it is generally expected that OSM is more complete in populated urban areas than low-density rural areas, and completeness in these urban areas are often more important for many uses. No proprietary data sources were available for comparison, but it should not be assumed that they are any more complete, nor that their name or similar tagging is any more consistent. As an example, Google's data was observed to use both Starbucks and Starbucks Coffee for the coffee chain, sometimes having both for what was really the same location. The tools used to generate counts could easily be used to extract the shop data to work with. Improving the data == Inconsistent tagging was observed with some shops, such as variability between amenity=restaurant and amenity=fast_food. This should reflect differences between locations but may not. Inconsistent names were also observed, such as Walmart, Wal-mart, and Wal Mart. These issues are not as significant as the large percentage of missing shops. ___ Talk-ca mailing list Talk-ca@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ca
Re: [Talk-cz] Geoinformatics FCE CTU 2014
Mila OSM komunito, Dne 15. května 2014 14:31 Martin Landa landa.mar...@gmail.com napsal(a): timto rad oznamuji, ze i tento rok budeme pokracovat v tradici zapocte jiz v roce 2006. Konference Geoinformatics [1] na Fakulte stavebni CVUT v Praze se tento rok bude konat ve dnech 12.6. a 13.6. Letosni rocnik neplanujeme zvat zahranicni hosty (vyjma Slovenska), jazykem konference tedy bude *cestina*. sekce RUIAN+OSM vychazi na ctvrtek [1]. Doufam, ze vas program zaujme a dorazite v hojnem poctu nejen ve ctvrtek :-) Budu se tesit, Martin [1] http://geoinformatics.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Geoinformatics_FCE_CTU_2014#Thursday_12_June PS: V pripade potreby muzeme zajit i mistnost pro pripadny hackfest/codesprint... -- Martin Landa * http://geo.fsv.cvut.cz/gwiki/Landa ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] Překlad wiki castle_type (a značení tvrze)
zdar a sílu, přeložil jsem aktualizovanou stránku http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Cs:Key:castle_type s rozlišením typu hrad/zámek/pevnost atd. dík moc A doplnil jsem tam i kousek o dříve debatovaném značení tvrze. Tak si to prosím přečtěte případně vzneste připomínky. já pořád nevím, jak moc je to srozumitelné pro anglofonní kolegy, a případně jak dobře naše realita koresponduje s jejich představou o významu toho pojmu laicky, resp. tedy po tom zkoumání zdrojů a diskusích, mi fortified_manor přijde fajn pro vesnické tvrze, ale pro ty terénní (nebo jak to říci) bych raději volil motte(_and_bailey) jaký je postup, kdybychom to chtěli nějak probrat a zlegalizovat? - koukal jsem na stránku o proposals, ale to řeší zavádění nových tagů, nikoli hodnoty existujících ... nebo jsem něco přehlídnul? K. ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [Talk-cz] WMS mapa geoportal.cuzk.cz
Ahoj, Vidím tam dvakrát service=WMS a taky request. Když to vyhodím, tak se mi to v prohlížeči zobrazí, ale JOSM se to pořád nelíbí: CHYBA: java.lang.Exception: Inconsistent metadata read from stream Image couldn't be fetched: http://geoportal.cuzk.cz/WMS_ORTOFOTO_PUB/WMService.aspx?FORMAT=image/jpegVERSION=1.1.1SERVICE=WMSR EQUEST=GetMapLAYERS=GR_ORTFOTORGBSTYLES=SRS=EPSG:4326WIDTH=500HEIGHT=500BBOX=18.3650700,49.65918 55,18.3707243,49.6628456. Přičina: javax.imageio.IIOException: Inconsistent metadata read from stream java.lang.Exception: Inconsistent metadata read from stream Image couldn't be fetched: http://geoportal.cuzk.cz/WMS_ORTOFOTO_PUB/WMService.aspx?FORMAT=image/jpegVERSION=1.1.1SERVICE=WMSR EQUEST=GetMapLAYERS=GR_ORTFOTORGBSTYLES=SRS=EPSG:4326WIDTH=500HEIGHT=500BBOX=18.3650700,49.65918 55,18.3707243,49.6628456 at org.openstreetmap.josm.io.imagery.WMSGrabber.fetch(WMSGrabber.java:74) at org.openstreetmap.josm.io.imagery.Grabber.attempt(Grabber.java:66) at org.openstreetmap.josm.io.imagery.Grabber.run(Grabber.java:50) at java.lang.Thread.run(Thread.java:744) Co s tím dál netuším, ale dle krátkého googlení to klidně může být i chyba v moji verzi javy a jinde to může fungovat. jednoduchy workaround, na ktery jsem prisel, je FORMAT=image/jpeg vymenit za FORMAT=image/png. Vypada, ze ta Java ma problem s parsovanim metadat toho JPEGu, ktery se zda byt jinak OK. Petr ___ Talk-cz mailing list Talk-cz@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-cz
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SotM-EU la semaine prochaine
Le 07/06/2014 14:12, Christian Rogel a écrit : Le 7 juin 2014 à 13:30, Adrien Caillot adrien.cail...@free.fr a écrit : On 04/06/2014 19:31, Frédéric Rodrigo wrote: Le SotM-EU à lieu dans une semaine à Karlsruhe en Allemagne (la Mecque de l'associatedStreet, ou pas). Christian et moi même y allons. Mais qui d'autres compte y aller ? Vous partez d'où, quand et comment ? Si quelqu'un passe par vers chez moi (Besançon), pourquoi pas. J'y vais aussi, mais en TGV depuis la Bretagne. Moi j'arrive à Strasbourg en avion le jeudi. Personne ne passe ou ne part de Strasbourg en voiture ? ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
[OSM-talk-fr] Trop de place=village
Hello, J'ai repéré une zone où un grand nombre de hamlet sont taggés en tant que village : http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/3Gv Quelqu'un connaitrait une méthode astucieuse pour ne pas y passer des lustres à tout corriger ? Stf ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] Trop de place=village
Bonjour, Le 08/06/2014 15:44, Stéphane Péneau a écrit : J'ai repéré une zone où un grand nombre de hamlet sont taggés en tant que village : http://overpass-turbo.eu/s/3Gv Quelqu'un connaitrait une méthode astucieuse pour ne pas y passer des lustres à tout corriger ? Vu que la correction n'a rien d'automatique (repasser à hamlet voire isolated_dwelling, au cas par cas) on peut imaginer un mapcraft découpé par commune ? C'est pas à toi que je vais dire comment ça marche :) vincent ps. les nodes sont dans une grande majorité l'oeuvre de Fred87, je ne sais pas s'il lit la liste, sinon ça peut être élégant de le mettre dans la boucle ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-talk-fr] SotM-EU la semaine prochaine
Jeudi apres-midi et soir il y a un pre-rendez-vous a AKK (regardez sotm-eu.org) Am 08.06.2014 14:17, schrieb Frédéric Rodrigo: Le 07/06/2014 14:12, Christian Rogel a écrit : Le 7 juin 2014 à 13:30, Adrien Caillot adrien.cail...@free.fr a écrit : On 04/06/2014 19:31, Frédéric Rodrigo wrote: Le SotM-EU à lieu dans une semaine à Karlsruhe en Allemagne (la Mecque de l'associatedStreet, ou pas). Christian et moi même y allons. Mais qui d'autres compte y aller ? Vous partez d'où, quand et comment ? Si quelqu'un passe par vers chez moi (Besançon), pourquoi pas. J'y vais aussi, mais en TGV depuis la Bretagne. Moi j'arrive à Strasbourg en avion le jeudi. Personne ne passe ou ne part de Strasbourg en voiture ? ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr ___ Talk-fr mailing list Talk-fr@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-fr
Re: [OSM-ja] 沼津の観光資源＆廃線跡
三浦さん 武内です 2014年6月8日 10:43 Satoru Takeuchi satoru.takeu...@gmail.com: みうらさん 武内@沼津です。 2014年6月7日 11:32 Hiroshi Miura(@osmf) miur...@osmf.jp: 三浦です。 沼津のビルのトレーシングを行なっていて、 特徴的な道路を発見（？）しました。 http://www.openstreetmap.org/way/12622 ALPSデータからインポートされていますが、名前がついていません。 沼津の都市計画総括図によると、 http://www.city.numazu.shizuoka.jp/shisei/keikaku/various/toshikei/naiyou/img/soukatuzu2.pdf 蛇松緑道というものらしいです。 http://www.city.numazu.shizuoka.jp/takara/kobetu/sizen/005_jyamaturyokudo.htm せっかく、こういうのがあるので、ぜひ地元の方は、現地調査を行って、 反映して欲しいですね。 また、廃線な専門の方には、その筋の情報も入れられると思います。 これも、今日行って散歩してきます。この道自体は名前は上の三浦さんの調査でわかって おり、かつ、道の位置もわりと正確に見えます。現地に行かないととれないような情報があれば 教えて下さい。 踏破してきました。車道だけ書いていて歩道がなかったってことですね。写真とりつつ GPSログトレースをとってきたので、のちほど地図データに反映させます。 以上 以上 三浦 ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja ___ Talk-ja mailing list Talk-ja@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ja
Re: [OSRM-talk] problem with building osrm
Thanks for your answer. At last i've got to build osrm, with no errors. I see osrm-extract, osrm-prepare and osrm-routed commands. But I don´t see server.ini file. Help, please. Thanks! On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 2:11 PM, Anael Lorimier anael.lorim...@xcg-consulting.fr wrote: Is there any errors? Some missing libraries? I installed many libraries before successfully building OSRM server. On Jun 6, 2014 1:58 PM, Joseba Bolinaga josbol...@gmail.com wrote: Hello, i have tried several times building osrm in my pc, but I can´t. My OS is ubuntu 14.04 x64 and i followed the instrucions given in OSRM PROJECT wiki, but after finishing I can`t find osrm-extract, osrm-prepare and osrm-routed commands. These are the steps I do: 1. Fetch the source: git clone https://github.com/DennisOSRM/Project-OSRM.git 2. building 14.04+: install build-essential git cmake pkg-config libprotoc-dev libprotobuf8 \ protobuf-compiler libprotobuf-dev libosmpbf-dev libpng12-dev \ libbz2-dev libstxxl-dev libstxxl-doc libstxxl1 libxml2-dev \ libzip-dev libboost-all-dev lua5.1 liblua5.1-0-dev libluabind-dev libluajit-5.1-dev libtbb-dev 3. build OSRM: mkdir -p build; cd build; cmake ..; make Any help? Thanks in advance. ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk ___ OSRM-talk mailing list OSRM-talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/osrm-talk
[Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
A year or so ago, I raised a proposal for a bot to add links from OSM entities, to the equivalent entities in Wikidata. Details are at: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing/Wikipedia While there was some interest, things haven't moved very far (I'm not a coder, so am reliant on others). To make a more manageable project, we could perhaps run the job just for the UK (or even a subset of that); and perhaps for a subject of topics (starting with churches, say, or bridges, or railway stations, or whatever). Once success is demonstrated, it could then be replicated for more topics; and in other territories. Can anyone assist? How can we increase community buy-in? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
Hi, On 06/08/2014 03:44 PM, Andy Mabbett wrote: A year or so ago, I raised a proposal for a bot to add links from OSM entities, to the equivalent entities in Wikidata. This Saturday at SOTM-EU in Karlsruhe there will be a talk with a similar topic, http://sotm-eu.org/en/slots/69 If all goes well there will be a live stream as well as a recording afterwards. No idea if that is a competitor or if both ideas can be merged somehow. Bye Frederik -- Frederik Ramm ## eMail frede...@remote.org ## N49°00'09 E008°23'33 ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
Hi Andy, I like the idea, and it'd be great if some dabbling happened in advance of wikimania. I'm not promising to get involved (sorry) since not sure I'll have time. But I have no idea how to do a structured search in wikipedia (i.e. search for items within a category, which have co-ordinates). If you know any way, or tutorials etc, then sharing those might help OSMers to think about it? I've added some quick findings about this, to the discussion: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing/Wikipedia#How_to_query_Wikipedia Dan 2014-06-08 14:44 GMT+01:00 Andy Mabbett a...@pigsonthewing.org.uk: A year or so ago, I raised a proposal for a bot to add links from OSM entities, to the equivalent entities in Wikidata. Details are at: https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/User:Pigsonthewing/Wikipedia While there was some interest, things haven't moved very far (I'm not a coder, so am reliant on others). To make a more manageable project, we could perhaps run the job just for the UK (or even a subset of that); and perhaps for a subject of topics (starting with churches, say, or bridges, or railway stations, or whatever). Once success is demonstrated, it could then be replicated for more topics; and in other territories. Can anyone assist? How can we increase community buy-in? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
On 08/06/14 14:44, Andy Mabbett wrote: To make a more manageable project, we could perhaps run the job just for the UK (or even a subset of that); and perhaps for a subject of topics (starting with churches, say, or bridges, or railway stations, or whatever). Once success is demonstrated, it could then be replicated for more topics; and in other territories. What would you consider a demonstration of success exactly? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
What would you consider a demonstration of success exactly? Tom Tom, Measuring the success of a bot can be done in the same way that the success is measured in a statistical model; Type I and Type II errors. So for example, if the test is to attach wikidata tags to churches then: * A type I error would be failing to add the wikidata to the associated church (we can accept large errors in this case as it represents the current no-bot situation) * A type II error would be adding the wrong wikidata to a church. We need to minimise these. I'll suggest a 1-2% error as this matches the general quality of public data. I unfortunately don't have the skills to help with editing, but support initial trials as a good step to working more closely with wikimedia commons. Best, Rob https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Type_I_and_type_II_errors ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
On 2014-06-08 1:28 PM, Rob Nickerson wrote: What would you consider a demonstration of success exactly? Tom Tom, Measuring the success of a bot can be done in the same way that the success is measured in a statistical model; Type I and Type II errors. So for example, if the test is to attach wikidata tags to churches then: Measured that way, I could code a bot that sets name=foo for all objects with a name tag. Assuming I'm decent at coding, I could have zero Type I and Type II errors, and by those criteria this mechanical edit would be a success. Success should be measured against the reasons for the mechanical edit. Adding wikidata tags isn't the reason, it's what it does. ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
On 08/06/14 21:28, Rob Nickerson wrote: Measuring the success of a bot can be done in the same way that the success is measured in a statistical model; Type I and Type II errors. So for example, if the test is to attach wikidata tags to churches then: * A type I error would be failing to add the wikidata to the associated church (we can accept large errors in this case as it represents the current no-bot situation) * A type II error would be adding the wrong wikidata to a church. We need to minimise these. I'll suggest a 1-2% error as this matches the general quality of public data. I was taking the question of accuracy as a given. My point was not whether we can accurately add the right tags, but rather whether doing so is actually useful. There's an almost infinite number of things we could add, but if nobody ever uses them, is the time take do so wasted? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
On 8 June 2014 22:49, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: I was taking the question of accuracy as a given. My point was not whether we can accurately add the right tags, but rather whether doing so is actually useful. I was taking the question of usefulness as a given. There's an almost infinite number of things we could add, but if nobody ever uses them, is the time take do so wasted? Why do you (apparently) suppose they will not be used? -- Andy Mabbett @pigsonthewing http://pigsonthewing.org.uk ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
Paul, Tom I interpreted measure of success to mean success of the bot process, rather than usefulness of doing this in the first place. As with Andy I took the usefulness as read. Wikidata is growing quickly but nobody can argue that wikipedia is not an invaluable resource today. Anything we can do to provide better links between OSM objects and Wikimedia Commons (be that via wikipedia or wikidata) is a good thing IMHO. Whether we use a bot to add wikipedia links or wikidata links depends on whether you think wikidata continue to grow. To me wikidata makes a lot of sense (as it is a data store and links to the wikipedia articles in all languages), but I wouldn't complain if more wikipedia tags were added. Rob p.s. name=foo to all objects would be a type 2 fail. In the wikidata example you would want to add the wikidata reference to object foo only if name=foo in OSM (and geographic location is correct). Your catch all would falsely identify all objects in osm as foo and therefore apply the wikidata ref to all objects - a clear fail!! (my explanation of type 2 errors wasn't that good, but the wiki article gives a thorough explanation). On 8 June 2014 22:49, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: On 08/06/14 21:28, Rob Nickerson wrote: Measuring the success of a bot can be done in the same way that the success is measured in a statistical model; Type I and Type II errors. So for example, if the test is to attach wikidata tags to churches then: * A type I error would be failing to add the wikidata to the associated church (we can accept large errors in this case as it represents the current no-bot situation) * A type II error would be adding the wrong wikidata to a church. We need to minimise these. I'll suggest a 1-2% error as this matches the general quality of public data. I was taking the question of accuracy as a given. My point was not whether we can accurately add the right tags, but rather whether doing so is actually useful. There's an almost infinite number of things we could add, but if nobody ever uses them, is the time take do so wasted? Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
Re: [Talk-GB] Adding links to Wikidata (and Wikipedia?)
On 08/06/14 23:11, Andy Mabbett wrote: On 8 June 2014 22:49, Tom Hughes t...@compton.nu wrote: There's an almost infinite number of things we could add, but if nobody ever uses them, is the time take do so wasted? Why do you (apparently) suppose they will not be used? I don't suppose one way or the other, that's why I was asking how you proposed to measure it. Tom -- Tom Hughes (t...@compton.nu) http://compton.nu/ ___ Talk-GB mailing list Talk-GB@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb
