Re: [Talk-in] Usage of www.surveykshan.gov.in

2013-10-04 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
Government data is not public domain in India. It's copyrighted and owned
by the government.

However, government bodies haven't quite figured out the concept of a
copyright license, so good luck explaining that to SoI.

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On Sep 30, 2013 7:27 PM, Aditya Nag aditya.nag.2...@gmail.com wrote:

 Guys,

 I've just now stumbled upon a site from Survey Of India 
 herehttp://www.surveykshan.gov.in.
 It seems pretty useful and accurate. Can we use it to update data in India?
 And is it in the Public Domain?

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Re: [Talk-in] Mappy hour?

2012-11-30 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
How long are you all in Mumbai? I'm expecting to be there around December 20.

Arun, how's the weather in Dharamsala? That's my (potential) next stop after 
Mumbai.

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On Wednesday, 28 November 2012 at 3:32 PM, Chaitanya waichal wrote:

 Dear OSMers M not sure if this is the right place but i would request you all 
 to have a look at pathajalp.com (http://www.pathajalp.com) , based entirely 
 on OpenStreetMap.ITs a website that allows you to rate roads..I am from 
 Kolhapur,Maharashtra and have been single handedly working on this site.
 In order to implement it i ve had to use various technologies including 
 Osm2po,Pgrouting, etc.
 Chaitanya  
  
  
  
 On Mon, Nov 26, 2012 at 8:04 PM, paramvi...@gmail.com 
 (mailto:paramvi...@gmail.com) wrote:
  Great! Russell, what do you use for adding POIs on OSM? I mean, phone and 
  software?
  Sent from BlackBerry® on Airtel
   
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[Talk-in] Fwd: [datameet] NSDI Questionnaire

2011-07-11 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
Perhaps of interest to this list.

Begin forwarded message:

 From: Pranesh Prakash pran...@cis-india.org
 Date: 11 July 2011 6:36:21 PM GMT+05:30
 To: Datameet datam...@googlegroups.com
 Subject: [datameet] NSDI Questionnaire
 Reply-To: datam...@googlegroups.com
 
 Dear all,
 The National Spatial Data Infrastructure (which falls under the
 Department of Science and Technology) is conducting a survey of
 GeoProfessionals and General Users who use geospatial data.
 
 I would urge all those involved with OpenStreetMaps and those who
 believe in the benefits of open geospatial data to please a) fill out
 the appropriate questionnaire (available in .doc format), and b) send
 this out to others who would care and ask them to do the same.  I feel
 it is an opportunity to let the government know about the numbers using
 open mapping as well as non-profit endeavours in this space.
 
 For professionals/contributors: http://goo.gl/5fBFv
 For general public/users: http://goo.gl/o8r1z
 
 Cheers,
 Pranesh
 
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Re: [Talk-in] bing imagery

2010-12-01 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On 02-Dec-2010, at 12:22 PM, krish wrote:

 I am pretty much not yet able to digest any news that Microsoft will do 
 anything for a community without having backend plans to make something out 
 of it that will add value to their intellectual property.

Just like everyone else?

I like the new Microsoft. They've acknowledged* that they are now the underdog 
that can only survive by taking community interests to heart.

* The OS/Office sales side of Microsoft doesn't appear to have received the 
memo.


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Re: [Talk-in] Custom styled OSM map

2010-10-22 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Fri, Oct 22, 2010 at 8:35 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:

 I've been playing around with a new tool called 
 maperitivehttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Maperitivelately which renders 
 osm data on the fly and allows you to specifiy custom
 map rules. I'm developing a map style which is a lot more cleaner than the
 default mapnik one, you can check out the preview of the style here
 http://www.flickr.com/photos/arunganesh/5104440951/


Pretty! All this needs is a more prominent colour for water bodies. How
would it look with a greater road density?

Kiran
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Re: [Talk-in] BusRoutes.in

2010-07-30 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
I guess the BTIS guys are the best bet for this data. Pandian, care to help?

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On Fri, Jul 30, 2010 at 12:05 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:

 Jace, to make it as usable as the Chennai 
 versionhttp://busroutes.in/chennai/route/25G/,
 not much. Just a simple database with [Route, Stage1, Stage2 ... 
 StageN]http://mtcbus.org/Routes.asp?cboRouteCode=S25Gsubmit=Searchfor each 
 route.

 But then to be quite honest, although the site is informative, i wouldnt
 rate it very high as an effective planning tool. Its not possible to give
 usable route suggestions without factoring in scheduling/frequency data.

 And right now, OSM is just used as a background layer, what would really be
 awesome if we could make use of the OSM data itself to make things more
 powerful. I think we have shifted to postgresql, so this might be possible
 if there is someone willing to help out with the coding. The site is powered
 by django/python and the source is available at
 http://github.com/yuvipanda/wtfimb/network

 If anyone wants to have a go at hacking, do let me know.

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Re: [Talk-in] GPS for sale

2010-07-16 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Wed, Jul 14, 2010 at 10:52 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.comwrote:

 What i do is toss it in my backpack and connect to via blue tooth using
 gpsmid on my phone. I have almost always got a fix with it sitting in my
 backpack and had no reason to take it out, except for switching it off while
 going indoors to save battery. So it is pretty much fire and forget.


I took a train from Hyderabad to Bangalore last evening. My Garmin
Forerunner (a wrist-mounted GPS) had accidentally switched on just before I
got onto the train and recorded the entire route until Bangalore -- packed
up in my bag, under the seat, within the metal shell of the train. The
battery's rated for 10 hours. It lasted 13, despite the obviously very poor
signal, and the trace it made aligns perfectly with your OSM Landsat trace
and with Google Maps.

http://connect.garmin.com/activity/40589680
http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/jace/traces/763994

I'm impressed.
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Re: [Talk-in] A-GPS as GPS

2010-05-30 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 11:43 AM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote:

 Is it will GPS or A-GPS? It seems this much quick fix is only possible
 through A-GPS. With you plan for GPRS, use of A-GPS may be free.


It is AGPS. The assisting is done via Google's location services, which
incidentally is what Firefox also uses for its geolocation API. Here's their
explanation: http://www.mozilla.com/en-US/firefox/geolocation/


 Has A-GPS and GPS, A-GPS work only through GPRS, and not through WiFi.


That is correct. On Android, your cell tower information is automatically
sent to Google to determine location (this is a preference setting and is
turned off by default), so the phone always knows where it is.

If you use Google Maps on Nokia, it uses Google's location services. If
you're using Nokia's map app, they may have their own service provider.

Of late, I've noticed that I'm getting geolocation on my home wifi network
too. I suspect this is because Google has recorded a strong correlation
between my GPRS location and my wifi SSID.
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Re: [Talk-in] A-GPS as GPS

2010-05-30 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sun, May 30, 2010 at 1:22 PM, Ajay Shah ajays...@mayin.org wrote:

 And this works in India also?
 I.e. google knows all the cell towers of India?


Yes. Works perfectly everywhere I've tried, India and out.
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Re: [Talk-in] A-GPS as GPS

2010-05-29 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sat, May 29, 2010 at 12:20 PM, H.S.Rai h...@raiandrai.com wrote:

 For mapping mobiles with GPS are seems to be good resource. My question is:

 It seems that Android will rule and Linux bases mobiles may not become
 a reality.

 Can A-GPS be used as GPS?


I have an Android phone. I do not pay anything for GPS service. It is free,
gets a fix within 15-20 seconds, and typically gives me 4 metre accuracy in
the city.

My old Garmin eTrex Legend takes at least 2 minutes to get a fix, 5 or more
if in a new location, and gives me 8-20 metre accuracy.

The Android phone is so good as a GPS that I bought an extended battery to
go with it.
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Re: [Talk-in] Tagging roads with median

2010-04-01 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Thu, Apr 1, 2010 at 12:23 PM, PlaneMad theplane...@gmail.com wrote:


 I have been mapping it as two parallel oneways almost mainly for the
 purpose of routing. I have also found that it makes it much easier to follow
 the road pattern especially at complicated junctions/interchanges (see
 hebbalhttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=13.04316lon=77.58997zoom=17layers=B000FTFor
  hudson
 circlehttp://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=12.96601lon=77.58582zoom=17layers=B000FTF).
 It doesnt make sense to do this for each and every road with a median
 though, but only for the arterial thoroughfares.


That makes sense, but we need a way to deal with quirks like the double
traffic lights.

Also, would the relation tags be a useful way to do this?
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Relation:restriction
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping

2010-03-28 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sun, Mar 28, 2010 at 1:51 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:


 The ideological assumption of OSM is that open sharing of information is
 going to strengthen the unrepresented. Yes, in practice, definitely it takes
 effort to make open data accessible and empowering to all ... that's why a 3
 week project in Kibera has grown to a 6+ month project. The empowerment
 touches on so many issues ... especially economic and educational ... and
 that's something we're starting to look at. But ultimately, my belief is
 that power is more distributed the more things are out in the open.


Mikel, is Robert Neuwirth [1][2] still based in Kibera? It'll be interesting
to know what he thinks of Map Kibera.

[1] http://squattercity.blogspot.com/
[2]
http://www.amazon.com/Shadow-Cities-Billion-Squatters-Urban/dp/0415933196
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Re: [Talk-in] Bangalore Maps

2010-03-26 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Thu, Mar 25, 2010 at 3:43 PM, निशांत / Nishant nishantsharma.in@
gmail.com wrote:

 I have anyway, put up the Garmin image for whole India at
 http://unmukti.in/corp/osmgarmindownloads
 As it uses the extract from cloudemade, it is updated as and when new
 extract is available.


Nishant,

The all India map is too large for older Garmin devices such as my eTrex
Legend. Could you or some other kind soul setup extracts for a city or state
at a time? I did this for Bangalore once, but can't remember how.

Kiran
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping

2010-03-26 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Mon, Mar 22, 2010 at 10:02 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com wrote:

 Looks like some folks are simply going into Google Maps to trace their slum
 boundaries http://blog.sdinet.co.za/?p=78


GPS Babel will convert from KML to GPX, so one could trace in Google Earth
and then re-trace in JOSM. *bling!* *lightbulb*

Hmm...
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian Slum Mapping

2010-03-26 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Fri, Mar 26, 2010 at 4:32 PM, PlaneMad theplane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Shouldn't we have a landuse=slum tag for these areas? I would have thought
 that it would have surfaced after the Kibera mapping


For some reason, this makes me a little uncomfortable.

We learnt via the Freemap project that slum rehabilitation is the tool of
the property developer against the city corporation. Since corporations
allow construction of new buildings on previously unavailable land provided
the construction is for the purpose of rehabilitating a slum, property
developers have an incentive to encourage the creation of new slums (in
marshland in Mumbai) and get them recognised as such -- and in a few years,
acquire rights to this new slum land.

Tagging a slum on OSM will likely do nothing to change the situation on the
ground, but it makes one wonder exactly what sort of tool the map is, and
who holds it.
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Re: [Talk-in] veg/non-veg

2009-11-19 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Tue, Nov 17, 2009 at 5:02 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote:

 food=veg   - green circle
 food=nveg - red circle

 results are not very impressive. I need higher zoom levels, but so far have
 not found out how to go beyond a zoom of 18. Any clues?


The red and green circles are India-specific, and particularly poor choices
as they are often indistinguishable to deuteranomalic folks like me. Perhaps
some other icons?
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Re: [Talk-in] new tag for auto stand

2009-11-19 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Thu, Nov 19, 2009 at 5:45 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote:

 autorikshaw stands are unique to India. I propose having a tag:

 amenity=autostand
 meter=yes/no

 the symbol could be a yellow auto - showing a meter where meters are in
 use,
 and without a meter where they are not used. What should the default be?
 meter
 or no meter? Chennai is rumoured to have a couple of auto stands where the
 meter is used - would love to see them on the map ;-)


In the interest of internationalisation, shouldn't this be a derivative of
whatever is used to denote a taxi-stand? Something like:

amenity=taxistand
transport=autorickshaw

While autorickshaws are an Indian pecularity, other countries have very
similar transport options by name of tuk-tuks, jeepneys, tricycles, pilots,
etc.
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Re: [Talk-in] 'Maps for Making Change' in India

2009-11-04 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Wed, Nov 4, 2009 at 7:09 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.org wrote:

 they are aware of us - if they needed us they would have asked.


It's standard policy in such cases to let interested parties apply instead
of actively seeking them out, because that ensures their interest. I have
ongoing projects with CIS so can't do this, but anyone else can.
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Re: [Talk-in] veg and non-veg

2009-10-21 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Wed, Oct 21, 2009 at 1:42 PM, Guillaume Audirac 
guillaume.audi...@gmail.com wrote:

 Moreover, I am not sure of the relevance of the non-vegetarian attribute.
 All the non-vegetarian restaurants I know propose vegetarian meals.


You'll find military restaurants along highways all over India that are
non-veg only. Military is a codeword for no vegetarian food.
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Re: [Talk-in] Local Chapter for India

2009-10-02 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Fri, Aug 14, 2009 at 10:11 PM, Subhodip Biswas
subhodipbis...@gmail.comwrote:

 Is there any process going on for a Local Chapter in India yet?
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Foundation/Local_Chapters

 Would love to hear from the community.


Mikel reminded me of this again when I wrote to him about the workshops. We
should do it. I'll have the bandwidth for it in late October when I start
working on the Feb workshop series plans. Anyone else up to it?
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[Talk-in] Bangalore vs Bengaluru

2009-10-02 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
OSM's map of Bangalore currently identifies the city as Bengaluru.
Wikipedia's article on the city is still named Bangalore. The discussion
page there justifies it on the ground that the city's renaming is not yet
official. All major newspapers in the city continue to identify their
editions as Bangalore.

Given that, shouldn't OSM also list it as Bangalore? Like Wikipedia, OSM
needs NPOV in such matters. If no one has an objection, I will rename the
appropriate nodes. We can switch to Bengaluru when it becomes official.

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[Talk-in] OpenStreetMap workshops

2009-10-01 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
Hello all,

I just applied to NLnet (http://nlnet.nl/) for funding for a round of
OpenStreetMap workshops in Feb 2010, in the line of the Feb 2008 workshops.
We will hear back in four weeks on whether we're getting the grant.

I've made a wiki page for updates (nothing there yet):
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/WikiProject_India/Workshops/2010

Here's the proposal I sent NLnet: http://bit.ly/3iyC4i
And here's the budget: http://bit.ly/jza3l

Due to the rather short notice -- I was referred to NLnet less than a week
ago and their funding deadline was today -- I was unable to consult this
list for advice, but did speak to Pradeep, Schuyler and Mikel.

Pradeep hopes we'll be able to host an Indian edition of State of the Map,
so I mentioned that in the post-workshops roadmap.

Comments appreciated.

Best,
Kiran

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[Talk-in] WhiteHouse.gov using OpenStreetMap

2009-05-03 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
http://www.whitehouse.gov/change/
Discussion is on at irc://irc.oftc.net/#geo

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Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language

2009-04-27 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
2009/4/27 Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.com

 That node has a Hindi name as it's default name

 http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/245774579


 At present there's no user setting to change this .. it's only changeable
 in the database.
 As said previous, if someone is interested, I can sketch out some of the
 technical work needed to implement this.


I just edited it using Potlatch, so now it has the English name. Not sure I
understand what you mean. Do you mean an API for choosing from the localised
names for the default display?


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Re: [Talk-in] Mumbai

2009-03-01 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Sat, Feb 28, 2009 at 8:38 PM, PlaneMad theplane...@gmail.com wrote:

 i beleive the mumbai freemap.in data is being imported into osm. dont know
 what is the status of that is though.

The Mumbai Freemap data is sadly an outline of plots, not roads. It cannot
be used unless someone traces over all the gaps in their data -- since the
gaps represent the roads.

Shekhar, do let us know if this has changed.

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Re: [Talk-in] February trip

2009-02-13 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 1:06 PM, PlaneMad theplane...@gmail.com wrote:

 Sorry folks, as much as id love to meet you all, coming to bangalore
 is out of the question as i have some important project work in
 college this week. if you guys can post this in the wiki, i can spread
 the word around and you can get some more interested people joining
 in. increasing awareness of osm is more important than me being there
 :)


Arun, I'm in Chennai tomorrow and more or less have the evening spare. Care
to meet up? [Yes, I know what day it is. Just pushing my luck. ;-) ]

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Re: [Talk-in] February trip

2009-02-13 Thread Kiran Jonnalagadda
On Fri, Feb 13, 2009 at 7:00 PM, PlaneMad theplane...@gmail.com wrote:

 sure, ill be free in the evening. i have college tomo due to last
 week's shutdown, so will be back into the city around 6. anyone else
 want to join in?


Cool. My number's 99452 35123.

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