[Talk-in] Moving tasks.openstreetmap.in to a new server

[Sanjay Bhangar]

Hey all,

Hope everyone is doing well in these crazy times.

Around 5 years ago, we needed some hosting to run openstreetmap.in and
tasks.openstreetmap.in - I had spare resources on a server hosted with
hetzner.de and in the spirit of getting things up, we hosted things here
"until we found a more permanent home". As often goes with things, it's
been 5 years and things continue to be hosted on this box that Sajjad and I
have been paying for and maintaining.

It's been a privilege to have been able to contribute to the community and
it makes me happy that people have found these resources useful (and
complain when they go down :)) - unfortunately, it is time for us to retire
the current server, and this is likely a good time to setup some
infrastructure that is community-owned and managed.

We plan to shutdown the current server at the latest on December 31st,
2020, so it would be great to do this move before then.

 - For openstreetmap.in, this is currently just a static site and the plan
is to move to Github pages as per
https://github.com/osm-in/openstreetmap.in/issues/36#issuecomment-704711530
.
 - For tasks.openstreetmap.in, we need somewhere that is able to run a
Flask application.

My recommendation would be to get VPS hosting with Digital Ocean or any
other provider that seems reasonable (and ideally can be paid for in INR),
and me and Sajjad would be very happy to work with anyone who is able to
volunteer some time to setup and manage the new instance. Would be super
happy if there's any other ideas for hosting this or folks volunteering :)

With a low-cost VPS + managed database, I'd imagine our costs would be ~Rs
1,000 / month. If we can figure something cheaper, that's great. If it
takes some time to figure out a way to get community contributions to pay
to continue running this, I'm happy to pay for initial setup to get this
move going if someone is able to own the process of moving, configuring the
new server, etc.

Thanks everyone who's reported issues over the years and helped to keep
these resources (mostly) online. Looking forward to helping with this move
and a long and prosperous future for the OSM-in community :-) .

Cheers,
Sanjay
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Re: [Talk-in] i have doubts in syncing gtfs and osm data

[Sanjay Bhangar]

Ganesh,

Thank you for checking on the list.

This seems quite risky to me, and seems like it would require a lot of
due dilligence before attempting a merge.

I think this would qualify as a data import, and as such, you should
read the Import Guidelines:
http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Import/Guidelines

It would be helpful if you gave some more details like what data this
is, where you sourced it from, and ideally links to the raw GTFS data.
Also helpful would be links to code / scripts that you intend to run
to transform this GTFS data into OSM changefiles.

Conflation / merging in OSM is *really hard* and I would be skeptical
of any process that attempts to do this in a fully automated fashion.
HOWEVER, if the data is legally able to be added to OpenStreetMap and
you can share the data here and the community feels like it would be
valuable (which it seems like it probably will be!), I'm sure there
should be community members who are able to help out, and perhaps we
can work together on a part-automated / part-manual process of getting
this data in or so, to get the benefit of the data-set, but make sure
we have human eyes checking for conflicts and making sure nothing
breaks :-)

Thanks again for your enthusiasm in adding data to OSM, and looking
forward to seeing the data-set and hoping that the community can work
together in helping you get this data in.

All the best!
-Sanjay

On Fri, Nov 10, 2017 at 9:26 AM, lrmodes  wrote:
> Hey community,
>
> Is it ok to sync the gtfs with osm, that might produce huge changeset
> at once ??
>
> I thought it would be helpful to ask before doing one.
>
> :)
> regards,
> ganesh.
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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Sanjay Bhangar]

 Topomancy, Sanjay Bhangar and I have a server
 with ample speed and space to host openstreetmap.in
 http://openstreetmap.in and related projects for
 at least one year. We are providing the same service
 to OpenHistoricalMap.


 lets talk about it , OpenHistoricalMap is something
 interesting would like to learn more about it .


 OHM info and mailing list:
 http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Open_Historical_Map

 Meanwhile, lets start on OSM India. Johnson has already
 taken the first steps, looking forward to hearing from him.


 -Satya
 Satyaakam.net http://satyaakam.net/| fossevents.in
 http://fossevents.in/ |


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Re: [Talk-in] Indian OSM server

[Sanjay Bhangar]

Hey hey,

Many apologies for the confusion there, then - I think I was half
remembering conversations from some time ago where that was the plan.
If the plan is just to mirror the OSM data and provide alternate
styles more appropriate for India and localized, let's rock on :)

I guess we still need a server for this, though, as people have
rightly pointed out, its probably not a good idea to co-host with OHM.

Thanks - and sorry again for the confusion :) - great to know that the
boundary issue can also be managed with styles alone, that sounds
great.

Cheers,
Sanjay

On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 8:27 PM, H.S.Rai hardeep@gmail.com wrote:
 On Tue, Jan 27, 2015 at 3:42 PM, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote:

 The boundaries remain a big reason to have our own tiles. All this takes is
 changes to the stylesheet, not the data itself.

 +1

 I am unable to get message which caused this confusion.

 We intend to have only tile server.

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Re: [Talk-in] Mappy Hour in one hour!

[Sanjay Bhangar]

hey,

thanks to all who travelled across the city and came down ..

heard some fascinating stories about the early days of the internet in
india from russ, checked out OSMAnd, which is very cool and got some nice
osm stickers for my newly replaced laptop casing :)

Mikel, are you in town for some time? Would be great to see you again.

all the best,
Sanjay




On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 10:35 PM, Russell Nelson russnel...@gmail.comwrote:

 I think everyone involved had fun. I handed out some of my OSM swag,
 showed off my Columbus V-900 and Nexus 7 tablet running OSMAnd. We drank
 some beer, had some kebab takeout, and we generally had a fun time talking
 about mapping.


 On Thu, Nov 29, 2012 at 8:43 AM, Mikel Maron mikel_ma...@yahoo.comwrote:

 sorry I missed it! we had some bad news to deal with right before our
 flight. hope to catch up soon.


 * Mikel Maron * +14152835207 @mikel s:mikelmaron

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 *Sent:* Wednesday, November 28, 2012 10:11 PM
 *Subject:* Re: [Talk-in] Mappy Hour in one hour!

 how did it all go?!


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 On my way!
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 Date: 28 Nov 2012 12:01:13
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Re: [Talk-in] Fwd: [Ilugc] Sad demise of our dear KG (Keneth Gonsalves)

[Sanjay Bhangar]

RIP

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Re: [Talk-in] contacting mikel

[Sanjay Bhangar]

On Tue, Jul 10, 2012 at 5:12 PM, kenneth gonsalves
law...@thenilgiris.com wrote:
 hi,

 could someone send me Mikel's email address offlist please.

sent.

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