Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Party howto document
On Fri, Nov 27, 2009 at 8:35 PM, Sajjad Anwar sajja...@gmail.com wrote: there is already a remarkable improvement in their map! Still reworking, http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=11.319401lon=75.932935zoom=18 Above link require visitor to login, and he is expected to edit. Is that really what you want. If not, post link as: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=11.319401lon=75.932935zoom=18 -- H.S.Rai ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
[Talk-in] Mapping Party howto document
Hello. We recently had a very good experience getting involved in the OpenStreetMap project through a mapping party. The event was really interesting. As a part of the promotion of OpenStreetMap in and around Kerala, we are planning to organize a series of mapping parties. From the above party, we have learned how to organize a mapping party and created a document on that. The document is here http://geohackers.in/content/howto.html. Please go through it and leave your comments/suggestions. Thank you. -- Sajjad Anwar http://sajjad.in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Party howto document
On Wed, Nov 25, 2009 at 9:12 PM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 8:50:15 pm Sajjad Anwar wrote: We recently had a very good experience getting involved in the OpenStreetMap project through a mapping party. The event was really interesting. As a part of the promotion of OpenStreetMap in and around Kerala, we are planning to organize a series of mapping parties. From the above party, we have learned how to organize a mapping party and created a document on that. The document is here http://geohackers.in/content/howto.html. Please go through it and leave your comments/suggestions. where is the map you created? The map is here http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=11.32007lon=75.93383zoom=17 But this is the first attempt, hence the map is incomplete, the quality of work is very poor. The document is a step forward to improve the quality. Regards. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Sajjad Anwar http://sajjad.in +91 9995 19 13 12 ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Party howto document
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 5:42 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 11:09:51 pm Sajjad Anwar wrote: On Wednesday 25 Nov 2009 8:50:15 pm Sajjad Anwar wrote: We recently had a very good experience getting involved in the OpenStreetMap project through a mapping party. The event was really interesting. As a part of the promotion of OpenStreetMap in and around Kerala, we are planning to organize a series of mapping parties. From the above party, we have learned how to organize a mapping party and created a document on that. The document is here http://geohackers.in/content/howto.html. Please go through it and leave your comments/suggestions. where is the map you created? The map is here http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=11.32007amp;lon=75.93383amp;zoom=17 But this is the first attempt, hence the map is incomplete, the quality of work is very poor. The document is a step forward to improve the quality. I think you have totally missed the point of mapping - the idea of openstreetmap is to produce usable maps. Not to have parties. As far as I can see you have not touched the map since your party. And people who see your map will laugh at you - and laugh at OSM. Mapping is an activity that has to take place every day. And remember, it is a *street* map - which means it must show streets, roads and pathways. It must show buildings. I see a mini canteen there. How does one get to it? No road? not even a footpath? And how do the ladies get to their hostel? It is not even necessary to have a GPS instrument to sketch these things in. You have an outline. Now fill in the buildings, sketch the streets, paths, gardens, trees. Even if it is not precise, when you get an instrument you can correct it. For the last few months you have been talking about your party - and how you are going to hold parties in all the engineering colleges in Kerala. Please stop talking and writing documents - and start mapping. If you want to know how a map should look like, refer to the examples Prof Rai and I have shown you. I understand your points very well. We are reworking on the map. -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Sajjad Anwar http://sajjad.in +91 9995 19 13 12 ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Party howto document
On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 9:59:56 am Sajjad Anwar wrote: get an instrument you can correct it. For the last few months you have been talking about your party - and how you are going to hold parties in all the engineering colleges in Kerala. Please stop talking and writing documents - and start mapping. If you want to know how a map should look like, refer to the examples Prof Rai and I have shown you. I understand your points very well. We are reworking on the map. cool -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Party howto document
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 11:32 AM, Guillaume Audirac guillaume.audi...@gmail.com wrote: Hello Sajjad, where is the map you created? The map is here http://www.openstreetmap.org/edit?lat=11.32007lon=75.93383zoom=17 But this is the first attempt, hence the map is incomplete, the quality of work is very poor. The document is a step forward to improve the quality. Indeed the quality is poor, but I guess you have subscribed to this mailing list to improve it ? Exactly. OpenStreetMap is a great project, but it requires initially a deep dive in the wiki (http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Main_Page) to understand what to do, what to avoid. To understand also that it may take a few hours for your changes to be updated on the Mapnik rendering (or more depending on the zoom scale), to understand that you should not tag for the rendering but to reflect the reality. Try to see what others do in some nicely-mapped area. And feel free to ask your questions or doubts on the mailing list. Yes. The map we created is not actually totally rendered. I wonder what went wrong. We are reworking on the data with the new subset from OSM and will come up here with queries. Some useful tool like KeepRight can help you to fix some basic mistakes (updated once a week I guess): http://keepright.ipax.at/report_map.php?db=osm_XDzoom=16lat=11.31964lon=75.93473layers=B00Tch=0show_ign=0show_tmpign=0 (the Permalink allows you to bookmark a specific location in updating the URL) Thank you for this tip. The KeepRight tool is going to be of great help. You can also use JOSM and the validator plugin to check the basic errors before uploading. Some mistakes are very basic and cannot make use of the map for routing purpose for example: crossing roads with ways not connected. Or they are unappropriate like building=yes on a single node (use a closed-way for this tag) or replace it with landuse=residential for example. Refer often to the *Map Features* page to know the most common tags and attributes: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Map_Features, and also how to combine them. We'll try them. I personally don't try to map everything and everyday, but what I find useful for me and others. Greetings, Guillaume ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in -- Sajjad Anwar http://sajjad.in +91 9995 19 13 12 ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Party howto document
On Thu, Nov 26, 2009 at 10:15 AM, Kenneth Gonsalves law...@au-kbc.orgwrote: On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 10:08:56 am Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: Even when you have instrument, it is ideal to actually map with the gps data collected *on the same day* to get a better map.Something we experienced through E-City Mapping party / Hosur Mapping party.Output of E-City map is much better. So ideally any mapping party should have minimum of 2 hours where participants map them out. This way new comers to party also get to learn how to map. that is true - but the point I am trying to emphasise is that mapping is a daily activity. Every time you look at the map you can add something - a dustbin, a lamp post, a speed breaker on the road. Agree. Evolving the wiki way through incremental improvements is ideal instead of mapping once and leaving it. -- Regards Srikanth.L http://www.google.com/profiles/srik.lak ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Mapping Party howto document
On Thursday 26 Nov 2009 12:43:19 pm Srikanth Lakshmanan wrote: that is true - but the point I am trying to emphasise is that mapping is a daily activity. Every time you look at the map you can add something - a dustbin, a lamp post, a speed breaker on the road. Agree. Evolving the wiki way through incremental improvements is ideal instead of mapping once and leaving it. there is already a remarkable improvement in their map! -- regards Kenneth Gonsalves Senior Project Officer NRC-FOSS http://nrcfosshelpline.in/web/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
