Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
had the same observation with tamil fonts. the alphabet orders up correctly in osmarender while mapnik makes a mess of it. 2009/4/28 ビカス ヤダワ (vikas yadav) > Hi, > > I was experimenting on hindi names on north indian towns (specially from > Uttar Pradesh). Realized that t...@h can render better if client machine has > font installed while mapnik never renders correctly. That was about 3 month > ago and me not able to continue the experiment at the moment. > > Regards, > Vikas > > 2009/4/25 Tanveer Singh > >> Hi, >> I saw that in OSM the names of cities at lower zoom levels appear in >> some local language(I think its hindi). Only on zooming in english >> name is visible. Is there a way to turn of this stuff and see only >> English names. Infact non hindi areas also show up in hindi. Some >> language nazi at work here? >> Tanveer >> >> ___ >> Talk-in mailing list >> Talk-in@openstreetmap.org >> http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in >> > > > ___ > Talk-in mailing list > Talk-in@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in > > -- http://www.tinyurl.com/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
Hi, I was experimenting on hindi names on north indian towns (specially from Uttar Pradesh). Realized that t...@h can render better if client machine has font installed while mapnik never renders correctly. That was about 3 month ago and me not able to continue the experiment at the moment. Regards, Vikas 2009/4/25 Tanveer Singh > Hi, > I saw that in OSM the names of cities at lower zoom levels appear in > some local language(I think its hindi). Only on zooming in english > name is visible. Is there a way to turn of this stuff and see only > English names. Infact non hindi areas also show up in hindi. Some > language nazi at work here? > Tanveer > > ___ > Talk-in mailing list > Talk-in@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in > ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
> Oh ok! But its funny. People are arbitrarily giving hindi names to > places where hindi is not even the local language! Not brilliant but .. It is a wiki! ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 8:12 AM, Arindam Ghosh wrote: > Hi Mikel > > On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: >> That node has a Hindi name as it's default name >> >> http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/245774579 >> >> >> At present there's no user setting to change this .. it's only changeable in >> the database. >> As said previous, if someone is interested, I can sketch out some of the >> technical work needed to implement this. >> > > I would definitely like to work on this. Please let me know about the plans. > > > --regards > > Arindam > Oh ok! But its funny. People are arbitrarily giving hindi names to places where hindi is not even the local language! ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
Hi Mikel On Mon, Apr 27, 2009 at 9:46 PM, Mikel Maron wrote: > That node has a Hindi name as it's default name > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/245774579 > > > At present there's no user setting to change this .. it's only changeable in > the database. > As said previous, if someone is interested, I can sketch out some of the > technical work needed to implement this. > I would definitely like to work on this. Please let me know about the plans. --regards Arindam ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
> From: Kiran Jonnalagadda > > At present there's no user setting to change this .. it's only changeable in > the database. > As said previous, if someone is interested, I can sketch out some of the > technical work needed to implement this. > > I just edited it using Potlatch, so now it has the English name. Not sure I > understand what you mean. Do you mean an API for choosing from the localised > names for the default display? A user facing feature .. I meant that the map viewer could show tiles in the language of your choice, if names in that language were present in the database. -Mikel ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
2009/4/27 Mikel Maron > That node has a Hindi name as it's default name > > http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/245774579 > > > At present there's no user setting to change this .. it's only changeable > in the database. > As said previous, if someone is interested, I can sketch out some of the > technical work needed to implement this. > I just edited it using Potlatch, so now it has the English name. Not sure I understand what you mean. Do you mean an API for choosing from the localised names for the default display? -- Kiran Jonnalagadda http://jace.seacrow.com/ ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
Tanveer, > Look here > http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=34.239&lon=77.713&zoom=10&layers=B000FTF > I see only Indian name in hindi, but I want to see english names only. > Is there a setting or something I can do so that I do not see local > language names? That node has a Hindi name as it's default name http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/245774579 At present there's no user setting to change this .. it's only changeable in the database. As said previous, if someone is interested, I can sketch out some of the technical work needed to implement this. Mikel___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: > Tanveer, > > Can you give an example place where you see this behavior? > > I suspect that two different objects are being rendered. Mapnik currently > renders whatever is in the default "name" tag, rather than "name:en" or > "name:hi". > Ideally, the labels would be localised per user. Requires a good deal of > work .. a nice meaty project! I can sketch out some of the ideas around this > if anyone is interested. > > I know there's been discussion and some action around a local OSM India > server. This would give full control, and it could be possible to render an > English only tile set, a Hindu only tile set, etc. > > -Mikel Hi Mikel Look here http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=34.239&lon=77.713&zoom=10&layers=B000FTF I see only Indian name in hindi, but I want to see english names only. Is there a setting or something I can do so that I do not see local language names? ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
Hi On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 9:27 PM, Subhodip Biswas wrote: > On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:45 PM, PlaneMad wrote: >> yup a local mapserver is really needed, especially to render india specific >> poi's. not sure if kenneth is still actively working on his server at >> http://www.greenchilly.in/ > > Not sure If local map server is needed right now or not, yeah, having local map server is always good. the freemap.in server is on the process of hardware upgrade. otherwise most of the rails server setup were done back then. we will be able to do that again soon after freemap comes online. > "Internationalization setup for OSM web pages and map tiles" on which > Arindam was working since previous GSoC is really needed now. actually its' very much needed. need to update things against current api06 branch (on rails-2.1.2). But the rails-i18n api (from rails-2.2) and globalize2 have come up greatly. And well, tiles part is a biggie in itself. I got lil'bit busy last couple of weeks with final semester exams (upto 30th april). After that, i can devote max time in osm :) --cheers Arindam -- GPG Key: 0EE58920 Key Server: http://pgp.mit.edu ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:45 PM, PlaneMad wrote: > yup a local mapserver is really needed, especially to render india specific > poi's. not sure if kenneth is still actively working on his server at > http://www.greenchilly.in/ Not sure If local map server is needed right now or not, But the "Internationalization setup for OSM web pages and map tiles" on which Arindam was working since previous GSoC is really needed now. -- Regards Subhodip Biswas GPG key : FAEA34AB Server : pgp.mit.edu http://subhodipbiswas.wordpress.com http:/www.fedoraproject.org/wiki/SubhodipBiswas ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
yup a local mapserver is really needed, especially to render india specific poi's. not sure if kenneth is still actively working on his server at http://www.greenchilly.in/ On Sat, Apr 25, 2009 at 2:35 AM, Mikel Maron wrote: > Tanveer, > > Can you give an example place where you see this behavior? > > I suspect that two different objects are being rendered. Mapnik currently > renders whatever is in the default "name" tag, rather than "name:en" or > "name:hi". > Ideally, the labels would be localised per user. Requires a good deal of > work .. a nice meaty project! I can sketch out some of the ideas around this > if anyone is interested. > > I know there's been discussion and some action around a local OSM India > server. This would give full control, and it could be possible to render an > English only tile set, a Hindu only tile set, etc. > > -Mikel > > -- > *From:* Tanveer Singh > *To:* talk-in@openstreetmap.org > *Sent:* Friday, April 24, 2009 12:35:21 PM > *Subject:* [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language > > Hi, > I saw that in OSM the names of cities at lower zoom levels appear in > some local language(I think its hindi). Only on zooming in english > name is visible. Is there a way to turn of this stuff and see only > English names. Infact non hindi areas also show up in hindi. Some > language nazi at work here? > Tanveer > > ___ > Talk-in mailing list > Talk-in@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in > > ___ > Talk-in mailing list > Talk-in@openstreetmap.org > http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in > > -- http://www.tinyurl.com/ArunGanesh ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language
Tanveer, Can you give an example place where you see this behavior? I suspect that two different objects are being rendered. Mapnik currently renders whatever is in the default "name" tag, rather than "name:en" or "name:hi". Ideally, the labels would be localised per user. Requires a good deal of work .. a nice meaty project! I can sketch out some of the ideas around this if anyone is interested. I know there's been discussion and some action around a local OSM India server. This would give full control, and it could be possible to render an English only tile set, a Hindu only tile set, etc. -Mikel From: Tanveer Singh To: talk-in@openstreetmap.org Sent: Friday, April 24, 2009 12:35:21 PM Subject: [Talk-in] Names of cities in some local language Hi, I saw that in OSM the names of cities at lower zoom levels appear in some local language(I think its hindi). Only on zooming in english name is visible. Is there a way to turn of this stuff and see only English names. Infact non hindi areas also show up in hindi. Some language nazi at work here? Tanveer ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
