Re: [talk-ph] Fwd: Invitation and Call for Abstracts: PhilGEOS 2012 - 1st Philippine Geomatics Symposium (Nov. 22-23, 2012)
Hi guys, I have just submitted an abstract for an oral presentation to PhilGEOS 2012. If you're curious, I've pasted below the full text of the abstract that I submitted. Hopefully it will be accepted and so that we can present OSM to this conference. :) -- OpenStreetMap (http://openstreetmap.org) is a worldwide crowd-sourced mapping project that aims to create the world’s most complete, up-to-date, and accurate general-purpose digital map of the world that is also freely licensed. OpenStreetMap is bringing into mapping the same volunteerism and free/open ethos that has made Wikipedia the world’s largest and most popular encyclopedia. OpenStreetMap users contribute to the global dataset by collecting traces using GPS loggers, by tracing from geo-rectified satellite imagery, and by inputting attributes like street names and routing restrictions based on on-the-field survey and local knowledge. The data is stored in a database using a simplified topological data model consisting of nodes, ways, and relations, and attribute data is recorded using a flexible tagging system with an ontology determined through user consensus. OpenStreetMap was started in 2004 in the United Kingdom and was borne out of the frustration of ordinary citizens in obtaining map data that can be freely used by any person for any purpose. From then on, OpenStreetMap grew to become a worldwide project with thousands of users editing the map database every month. OpenStreetMap’s data, maps, and technologies are used by many entities, from government agencies like the White House, U.S. Geological Survey, and the TriMet office of Portland, Oregon, to commercial companies like Apple, foursquare, and Yahoo!’s Flickr. In the field of humanitarian and disaster relief, OpenStreetMap has provided the maps that aided relief workers in the wake of the 2010 Haiti earthquake, and OpenStreetMap has mapped Kibera, Nairobi, one of Africa’s largest slum areas. However, given the crowd-sourced characteristic of OpenStreetMap, can the project’s data be trusted to be accurate? While most of the world in OpenStreetMap is incomplete or inaccurate, the amateur nature of OpenStreetMap is not a hindrance to the project’s long-term growth in terms of completeness and quality. A 2009 study at the University College London has concluded that “[OpenStreetMap] quality [in England] is beyond good enough [and] can be used for a wide range of activities.” A 2010 University of Heidelberg study that compared OpenStreetMap data in Germany with Tele Atlas concluded that “the amount of data collected by volunteers in Germany has been tremendous and will cause OpenStreetMap to pass Tele Atlas in the near future in the total length of all street network data.” In the Philippines, OpenStreetMap is very active with Filipinos and foreigners helping to map the country’s 7,000-plus islands. Compared to countries like the United Kingdom and Germany, where OpenStreetMap is already quite mature, the Philippines still has a very large room for growth. Nevertheless, users in the Philippines have already mapped more than 100,000 kilometers of roads, added the outlines of more than 50,000 buildings, and marked the locations of more than 50,000 points of interest (POIs). The growth and potential of OpenStreetMap is such that it cannot be ignored by practitioners in the geomatics field. GIS professionals and geographers should learn to be familiar with OpenStreetMap and to even consider becoming contributors, helping to build the world’s largest geographical database. -- On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 6:14 PM, Eugene Alvin Villar sea...@gmail.com wrote: I support OSMPH giving a presentation and/or having a booth in the conference. For the talk, I guess something like OpenStreetMap in the Philippines: Why Crowdsourced Mapping is Here to Stay (just a suggestion!) It would be better if we have an idea of the makeup of the target audience so we would know what would appeal to them most about OSM. The deadline for submitting an abstract is on August 31, so we'd better work up something fast! :) On Thu, Aug 16, 2012 at 4:45 PM, maning sambale emmanuel.samb...@gmail.com wrote: Might be of interest. I'm planning to setup a booth for OSGeo PH and OSM. Anyone interested to present something? ___ talk-ph mailing list talk-ph@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-ph
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
2012/8/30 Wouter Hamelinck wouter.hameli...@gmail.com But the provinces are in that article also mentioned with Province in the name, which contradicts with article 5 of the constitution. And the constitution takes priority over a regular law. According to me they put it there exactly to avoid confusion since the names of provinces, arrondissements and cities are often the same. My conclusion: if there can be confusion you explicitly mention what you are talking about. If there is no confusion you don't. A search in juridat will show you plenty of laws, decrees etc where the names of arrondissements are just listed, without each time specifying Administrative Arrondissement. If you really would like to add it to the name you would have to do the same for the regions and provinces. I have no problem with that. It's a small change and can improve clarity, certainly for the provinces Antwerpen, Liège and Luxembourg. In OSM we have the admin_level tag to avoid confusion. I don't think that's enough. The meaning of admin_level is strictly Belgian, so an OSM-specialist from some other country wouldn't even understand it. And it's strictly bound to OSM. So some random user can't understand the admin_level either without first searching through the wiki. Btw, in Germany, it's also done this way. See f.e.: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/62379 For completeness, it belongs now to the jurisdiction of the regions. For Flanders you can find a similar table in the Provinciedecreet of 9 december 2005. wouter @Georges, er zijn inderdaad verschillende soorten arrondissementen, maar ik denk dat boundary=administrative duidelijk maakt dat het om administratieve arrondissementen gaat. Hoewel ik er niet tegen gekant ben om de volledige naam te gebruiken. ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk-be] zemst bos (iedereen beroemd)
Heeft iemand gisteren naar Iedereen beroemd gekeken. Daarin kwam een zekere Yannis Cleymans die een kaart van zijn dorp Zemst Bos aan het tekenen was. Ik zie dat zemst bos nog niet ferm ontwikkeld is in OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?query=zemst%20bos Dus misschien is het een idee om hem eens aan te spreken. Het zijn net zulke mensen die we nodig hebben. Voelt iemand met een FaceBook account zich geroepen (ik heb geen FB, anders had ik het zelf gedaan)? http://www.facebook.com/ZemstNieuws ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] zemst bos (iedereen beroemd)
Sander, Ik heb dit ook gezien toevallig. Hoe kan het dat zo iemand OSM niet kent trouwens, bij heeft wel een wikipedia account: http://nl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gebruiker:Ycleymans Ongeloofelijk, hij was op papier exact aan het doen wat OSM doet op een digitale manier. Ik heb een facebook account maar ik gebruik ze zo weinig mogelijk, ik zal eens kijken of ik hem kan contacteren. Groeten, Ben 2012/8/31 Sander Deryckere sander...@gmail.com Heeft iemand gisteren naar Iedereen beroemd gekeken. Daarin kwam een zekere Yannis Cleymans die een kaart van zijn dorp Zemst Bos aan het tekenen was. Ik zie dat zemst bos nog niet ferm ontwikkeld is in OSM: http://www.openstreetmap.org/?query=zemst%20bos Dus misschien is het een idee om hem eens aan te spreken. Het zijn net zulke mensen die we nodig hebben. Voelt iemand met een FaceBook account zich geroepen (ik heb geen FB, anders had ik het zelf gedaan)? http://www.facebook.com/ZemstNieuws ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] zemst bos (iedereen beroemd)
On Friday 31 August 2012 14:04:48 Sander Deryckere wrote: Heeft iemand gisteren naar Iedereen beroemd gekeken. Daarin kwam een zekere Yannis Cleymans die een kaart van zijn dorp Zemst Bos aan het tekenen was. Hier te herbekijken trouwens http://www.een.be/programmas/iedereen-beroemd/ter-plekke-zemst-bos Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:54:32PM +0200, Sander Deryckere wrote: I would like to discuss the naming of the arrondissements in Belgium. My problem with adding them to osm is that we have 3 kinds: - administrative; - judicial; - electoral. Which of them do you want to map, and how will you tell them apart if you want to map more than 1 of them? Kurt ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
Re: [OSM-talk-be] Names of Arrondissements
On Friday 31 August 2012 19:02:17 Kurt Roeckx wrote: On Wed, Aug 29, 2012 at 01:54:32PM +0200, Sander Deryckere wrote: I would like to discuss the naming of the arrondissements in Belgium. My problem with adding them to osm is that we have 3 kinds: - administrative; - judicial; - electoral. Which of them do you want to map, and how will you tell them apart if you want to map more than 1 of them? The discussion here is about boundaries with the boundary=administrative tag, so it's about the administrative arrondissements here. For electoral boundaries there is boundary=political as suggested by http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:boundary%3Dpolitical I'm not aware of existing tags for judicial boundaries, but we can easily make one with boundary=judicial. Ben ___ Talk-be mailing list Talk-be@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-be
[OSM-talk] Fwd: Creating talk-nc
Hello, I did send the message below some time ago to Michael, but I got no response. Maybe the mail address available in the wiki is no longer read? Is there some person to contact in order to create the talk-nc mailing list? Kindly Hendrik -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Message original***Original Message***Ursprüngliche Nachricht - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: hendrikmail2...@yahoo.de Hendrik Oesterlin To: mich...@osmfoundation.org mich...@osmfoundation.org Cc: Send: 04/06/2012 15:17:16 (Rec: ) Subject: Creating talk-nc Attach.: none -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hello Michael, on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists#Requests_for_New_Lists I read that you are able to create new mailing lists. As in New Caledonia a couple of contributors are now active I would have the possibility to exchange with this local community. For this purpose a new mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org could be convenient. I you want I could be Admin or Moderator of this new list. Thank you for your support! Kindly Hendrik Oesterlin http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hendrik75 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenCycleMap tiles not updated anymore?
Andrew Errington wrote As far as I know OpenCycleMap is a semi-private initiative with limited server resources and limited human resources. It is updated periodically, but there is usually a backlog. Yeah the lag time does seem pretty long at the moment. It took well over a month for my last changes to show up, but they got there in the end. Is there any way to see the status of the tiles or renderer on OpenCycleMap? -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OpenCycleMap-tiles-not-updated-anymore-tp5722811p5722949.html Sent from the General Discussion mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Creating talk-nc
On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 5:48 AM, Hendrik Oesterlin hendrikmail2...@yahoo.de wrote: Is there some person to contact in order to create the talk-nc mailing list? Hi Hendrik, I expect that Mike will get back to you as well. May I suggest an alternative? Please consider using an existing list that shares your language preferences. It seems more effective to join as much of the community as practical in the same channels, and split the channels only when required because the traffic from one sub-set of community is too dominant. I'd like to see, for example, talk-ca, talk-us@ and talk-au@ rolled back into talk@ as the first three have relatively low traffic and share discussions that would be of interest to the general community. It may be that other specialty lists such as uk-midlands could be rolled back into the general gb/uk list as well, etc. Best regards, Richard ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Land Cover academic research
Hi, Perhaps some people would like to spend 10mins completing this survey. http://psxlk0.wix.com/lclu#!home/mainPage At the end I list 'OpenStreetMap surveying' as an outdoor activity, in case my thoughts on tagging are obvious/odd in the results. -- Gregory o...@livingwithdragons.com http://www.livingwithdragons.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Fwd: Creating talk-nc
Hi Hendrik, The address is still valid. I must have missed it. I am creating it now and will respond further off-line. Mike On 31/08/2012 11:48, Hendrik Oesterlin wrote: Hello, I did send the message below some time ago to Michael, but I got no response. Maybe the mail address available in the wiki is no longer read? Is there some person to contact in order to create the talk-nc mailing list? Kindly Hendrik -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Message original***Original Message***Ursprüngliche Nachricht - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - From: hendrikmail2...@yahoo.de Hendrik Oesterlin To: mich...@osmfoundation.org mich...@osmfoundation.org Cc: Send: 04/06/2012 15:17:16 (Rec: ) Subject: Creating talk-nc Attach.:none -=--=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=-=- Hello Michael, on http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mailing_lists#Requests_for_New_Lists I read that you are able to create new mailing lists. As in New Caledonia a couple of contributors are now active I would have the possibility to exchange with this local community. For this purpose a new mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org could be convenient. I you want I could be Admin or Moderator of this new list. Thank you for your support! Kindly Hendrik Oesterlin http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Hendrik75 ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Final call for SOTM US talks
Folks, I know, you probably have SOTM Tokyo on your mind - if you're not already there! I wish I could make it out there. I'm sure it will be an amazing time. In the mean time, the session submission deadline for SOTM US (Portland, OR Oct 13-14) is today! So if you have an OSM story to share, now is the time to submit! How? Simple enough. Head over to http://stateofthemap.us/, play around with the stick figure for a while, hit 'Submit a Session' and put in your ~200 word abstract. I hope to see you in Portland! -- martijn van exel http://oegeo.wordpress.com ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [talk-au] National borders (was: import of state borders?)
2012/8/31 Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com Well, I think the baseline is defined here.. http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2006L00525 I don't think we have any issues using those facts as a source. That looks great, combining this with the coastline should work. The coastline can be either drawn via osmosis from a planet extract or perhaps also from OverpassAPI. But I guess we'll have to generate all those line segments in QGIS to get the coordinate systems right. 2012/8/31 Paul HAYDON cadmana...@live.com.au BTW, in QGIS it's Vector / Geoprocessing Tools / Buffer(s) - and I seem to recall some issue with the number/scale (read: map units), but I managed to work my way through it previously. Exactly, I remember that I somehow had to convert 12 nautical miles into fractions of degrees lat/long or so. Michael ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Misaligned streets OSM or Bing wrong? - use survey mark?
Hi Russell, Welcome aboard. Just my thoughts... For a newbie, you've made some very astute observations about the accuracy of the aerial imagery, so thanks for giving it the degree of thought - because many others just dive in and start tracing without understanding these subtleties. You're absolutely correct. Its quite normal for Bing (and others) to be off by 10m or so, but in other areas it's very accurate. It differs all over the place. Whatever editing tool you're using (Potlatch, JOSM, etc..), should give you the ability to align your background imagery. Just be aware the further you move away from the area you have aligned, the more likely the alignment will need another adjustment. JOSM allows you bookmark such alignments. I have a bookmark for my home town. But the danger of bookmarking your aerial alignment is that if Bing updates their imagery, your bookmarked alignment will probably no longer apply. Just something to keep in mind. Your known survey mark is definitely an excellent start. You can make a node in OSM to those exact coordinates, then align your background imagery so the location of the survey mark in Bing aligns to your OSM node. I would not rely on other people's OSM edits on which to base your alignment. You don't know how accurate or inaccurate they are. Your survey mark is the best way, and the GPS traces. Are you aware you can upload and share your GPS traces (in your profile section), and you can view all the uploaded traces while editing? This is great for aligning the background image. Depending where you live, you might have some major roads in your area which already have lots of traces. If so, that's great - try and find a couple of busy intersections to align and you should get a good alignment. Otherwise you can try walking around a block several times, or around a park, or around a roundabout many many times (if you see men in white coming to get you... Run!) Another method is to use a fixed point - and approach it from different angles like cross hairs to a target. As far as GPX averaging goes, I'm personally not familiar with anything that does this, but this list has some very talented people who can help or point you in the right direction. I find software averaging is not necessary because if you look at the traces visually you'll immediately get a very good idea from their density when they're all presented together (eg if you look at the traces on a busy dual carriageway motorway you'll very easily see an average for each carriageway). In built up areas you just need to be mindful of whether traces originate from cyclists, motorists, or pedestrians... and apply a degree of commonsense. I'm not sure if software can possibly distinguish between a set of traces from a roadway, and another set of traces from an adjacent walkway / cycleway - in such cases an average is meaningless. As far as tweaking other people's edits... if you're confident with your accuracy, I'd just do it. But if you want to take a more cautious approach you can contact the original editor and ask whether they mind you tweaking - or at least ask what method they used to position their nodes and let them know you can make it more accurate for them. Keep in mind there are many inactive users who move onto other hobbies after a while - so if you don't hear back from somebody after a reasonable time, consider it fair game to change it. Again, well done for going through this thought process, and welcome! BJ Sent from my iPhone On 01/09/2012, at 8:11, Russell Edwards russell...@gmail.com wrote: Hello -- brand new user here, please be patient :). I am trying to improve OSM in my home town. I notice that many/most OSM ways are approx 5-10 m west of where Bing has them. Most either have nearmap or nothing as a source. There are no GPS tracks to download. I could make some but they're usually in (random) error by about the same amount anyway. I tried to check against the coordinates given for a survey mark in town, through http://services.land.vic.gov.au/maps/lassi.jsp (with conversion to lat/lon with http://www.gracode.com/mapgrids.php ) ... this also had the Bing map out by about 10 m... but southward! Help! Three inconsistent systems - Bing, OSM and the survey mark. Which if any should I trust at the 1-m level? Is there a tool for averaging GPS tracks? There are roads I have run along dozens of times with a GPS track for every run. Maybe with averaging it could get to the 1m level of accuracy. (Yeah yeah, don't sweat the small stuff... I just can't stand seeing streets running through people's front gardens...) Thanks in advance Russell ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org
Re: [talk-au] Misaligned streets OSM or Bing wrong? - use survey mark?
The bing imagery is out. As per here: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Bing#Precision you need to align the bing imagery to either gps traces or source=survey or source=nearmap. Nearmap guaranteed that their imagery was within one metre, although there are some areas that are outside this. Cheers Ross On 01/09/12 08:11, Russell Edwards wrote: Hello -- brand new user here, please be patient :). I am trying to improve OSM in my home town. I notice that many/most OSM ways are approx 5-10 m west of where Bing has them. Most either have nearmap or nothing as a source. There are no GPS tracks to download. I could make some but they're usually in (random) error by about the same amount anyway. I tried to check against the coordinates given for a survey mark in town, through http://services.land.vic.gov.au/maps/lassi.jsp (with conversion to lat/lon with http://www.gracode.com/mapgrids.php ) ... this also had the Bing map out by about 10 m... but southward! Help! Three inconsistent systems - Bing, OSM and the survey mark. Which if any should I trust at the 1-m level? Is there a tool for averaging GPS tracks? There are roads I have run along dozens of times with a GPS track for every run. Maybe with averaging it could get to the 1m level of accuracy. (Yeah yeah, don't sweat the small stuff... I just can't stand seeing streets running through people's front gardens...) Thanks in advance Russell ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] National borders (was: import of state borders?)
It has also been pointed out that having the two inner poly's of the NSW relation (ACT and Jervis Bay Territory) while having the outer border of the poly incomplete is causing mapnik and nominatim to think that both territories are in NSW. I'm presuming the algorithm being used has difficulty telling which side of a inner poly is the exempt area when the outer boundary is incomplete, even though this seems to be computable. Presumably this effect will go away when the boundary is complete. Ian. On 31 August 2012 16:06, Michael Krämer ohr...@gmail.com wrote: 2012/8/31 Ian Sergeant inas66+...@gmail.com Well, I think the baseline is defined here.. http://www.comlaw.gov.au/Details/F2006L00525 I don't think we have any issues using those facts as a source. That looks great, combining this with the coastline should work. The coastline can be either drawn via osmosis from a planet extract or perhaps also from OverpassAPI. But I guess we'll have to generate all those line segments in QGIS to get the coordinate systems right. 2012/8/31 Paul HAYDON cadmana...@live.com.au BTW, in QGIS it's Vector / Geoprocessing Tools / Buffer(s) - and I seem to recall some issue with the number/scale (read: map units), but I managed to work my way through it previously. Exactly, I remember that I somehow had to convert 12 nautical miles into fractions of degrees lat/long or so. Michael ___ Talk-au mailing list Talk-au@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-au
Re: [talk-au] Misaligned streets OSM or Bing wrong? - use survey mark?
Agree with everything that Ben said. In addition, you may like to check the AGRI imagery. If the Bing and AGRI imagery align exactly, chances are you have well aligned Bing imagery. If the AGRI imagery aligns well with traces, it is easy enough to shift the Bing background to align with AGRI, and go from there. It may be an idea if you trace from bing offset, to mark that as your source, i.e source=bing (offset). That way people coming after you know what you've done. Ian. On 1 September 2012 09:53, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Russell, Welcome aboard. Just my thoughts... For a newbie, you've made some very astute observations about the accuracy of the aerial imagery, so thanks for giving it the degree of thought - because many others just dive in and start tracing without understanding these subtleties. You're absolutely correct. Its quite normal for Bing (and others) to be off by 10m or so, but in other areas it's very accurate. It differs all over the place. Whatever editing tool you're using (Potlatch, JOSM, etc..), should give you the ability to align your background imagery. Just be aware the further you move away from the area you have aligned, the more likely the alignment will need another adjustment. JOSM allows you bookmark such alignments. I have a bookmark for my home town. But the danger of bookmarking your aerial alignment is that if Bing updates their imagery, your bookmarked alignment will probably no longer apply. Just something to keep in mind. Your known survey mark is definitely an excellent start. You can make a node in OSM to those exact coordinates, then align your background imagery so the location of the survey mark in Bing aligns to your OSM node. I would not rely on other people's OSM edits on which to base your alignment. You don't know how accurate or inaccurate they are. Your survey mark is the best way, and the GPS traces. Are you aware you can upload and share your GPS traces (in your profile section), and you can view all the uploaded traces while editing? This is great for aligning the background image. Depending where you live, you might have some major roads in your area which already have lots of traces. If so, that's great - try and find a couple of busy intersections to align and you should get a good alignment. Otherwise you can try walking around a block several times, or around a park, or around a roundabout many many times (if you see men in white coming to get you... Run!) Another method is to use a fixed point - and approach it from different angles like cross hairs to a target. As far as GPX averaging goes, I'm personally not familiar with anything that does this, but this list has some very talented people who can help or point you in the right direction. I find software averaging is not necessary because if you look at the traces visually you'll immediately get a very good idea from their density when they're all presented together (eg if you look at the traces on a busy dual carriageway motorway you'll very easily see an average for each carriageway). In built up areas you just need to be mindful of whether traces originate from cyclists, motorists, or pedestrians... and apply a degree of commonsense. I'm not sure if software can possibly distinguish between a set of traces from a roadway, and another set of traces from an adjacent walkway / cycleway - in such cases an average is meaningless. As far as tweaking other people's edits... if you're confident with your accuracy, I'd just do it. But if you want to take a more cautious approach you can contact the original editor and ask whether they mind you tweaking - or at least ask what method they used to position their nodes and let them know you can make it more accurate for them. Keep in mind there are many inactive users who move onto other hobbies after a while - so if you don't hear back from somebody after a reasonable time, consider it fair game to change it. Again, well done for going through this thought process, and welcome! BJ Sent from my iPhone On 01/09/2012, at 8:11, Russell Edwards russell...@gmail.com wrote: Hello -- brand new user here, please be patient :). I am trying to improve OSM in my home town. I notice that many/most OSM ways are approx 5-10 m west of where Bing has them. Most either have nearmap or nothing as a source. There are no GPS tracks to download. I could make some but they're usually in (random) error by about the same amount anyway. I tried to check against the coordinates given for a survey mark in town, through http://services.land.vic.gov.au/maps/lassi.jsp (with conversion to lat/lon with http://www.gracode.com/mapgrids.php ) ... this also had the Bing map out by about 10 m... but southward! Help! Three inconsistent systems - Bing, OSM and the survey mark. Which if any should I trust at the 1-m level? Is there a tool for averaging GPS tracks? There are
Re: [talk-au] Misaligned streets OSM or Bing wrong? - use survey mark?
Thanks everyone for the replies. I have imported over 250 GPX traces from my running log, boy does that slow JOSM down. It seems Bing may be offset but having 100+ traces on some paths it is all just a big wide blob of grey. Still, the blob is offset. I might try and cobble together a tool to average them, in my non-existent spare time. Shouldn't be too hard for straight line paths (famous last words). BJ - yep I would love to dive in, already have -- but would hate to spend hours editing only to later realise I need to painstakingly go through and fix everything I've already done! I am still curious to know what the positional accuracy of survey markers is meant to be, if anyone can enlighten. On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with everything that Ben said. In addition, you may like to check the AGRI imagery. If the Bing and AGRI imagery align exactly, chances are you have well aligned Bing imagery. If the AGRI imagery aligns well with traces, it is easy enough to shift the Bing background to align with AGRI, and go from there. It may be an idea if you trace from bing offset, to mark that as your source, i.e source=bing (offset). That way people coming after you know what you've done. Ian. On 1 September 2012 09:53, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Russell, Welcome aboard. Just my thoughts... For a newbie, you've made some very astute observations about the accuracy of the aerial imagery, so thanks for giving it the degree of thought - because many others just dive in and start tracing without understanding these subtleties. You're absolutely correct. Its quite normal for Bing (and others) to be off by 10m or so, but in other areas it's very accurate. It differs all over the place. Whatever editing tool you're using (Potlatch, JOSM, etc..), should give you the ability to align your background imagery. Just be aware the further you move away from the area you have aligned, the more likely the alignment will need another adjustment. JOSM allows you bookmark such alignments. I have a bookmark for my home town. But the danger of bookmarking your aerial alignment is that if Bing updates their imagery, your bookmarked alignment will probably no longer apply. Just something to keep in mind. Your known survey mark is definitely an excellent start. You can make a node in OSM to those exact coordinates, then align your background imagery so the location of the survey mark in Bing aligns to your OSM node. I would not rely on other people's OSM edits on which to base your alignment. You don't know how accurate or inaccurate they are. Your survey mark is the best way, and the GPS traces. Are you aware you can upload and share your GPS traces (in your profile section), and you can view all the uploaded traces while editing? This is great for aligning the background image. Depending where you live, you might have some major roads in your area which already have lots of traces. If so, that's great - try and find a couple of busy intersections to align and you should get a good alignment. Otherwise you can try walking around a block several times, or around a park, or around a roundabout many many times (if you see men in white coming to get you... Run!) Another method is to use a fixed point - and approach it from different angles like cross hairs to a target. As far as GPX averaging goes, I'm personally not familiar with anything that does this, but this list has some very talented people who can help or point you in the right direction. I find software averaging is not necessary because if you look at the traces visually you'll immediately get a very good idea from their density when they're all presented together (eg if you look at the traces on a busy dual carriageway motorway you'll very easily see an average for each carriageway). In built up areas you just need to be mindful of whether traces originate from cyclists, motorists, or pedestrians... and apply a degree of commonsense. I'm not sure if software can possibly distinguish between a set of traces from a roadway, and another set of traces from an adjacent walkway / cycleway - in such cases an average is meaningless. As far as tweaking other people's edits... if you're confident with your accuracy, I'd just do it. But if you want to take a more cautious approach you can contact the original editor and ask whether they mind you tweaking - or at least ask what method they used to position their nodes and let them know you can make it more accurate for them. Keep in mind there are many inactive users who move onto other hobbies after a while - so if you don't hear back from somebody after a reasonable time, consider it fair game to change it. Again, well done for going through this thought process, and welcome! BJ Sent
Re: [talk-au] Misaligned streets OSM or Bing wrong? - use survey mark?
Russell, Found this on a search. This might be your answer to average your tracks - http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Average_tracks Sent from my iPhone On 01/09/2012, at 11:35, Russell Edwards russell...@gmail.com wrote: Thanks everyone for the replies. I have imported over 250 GPX traces from my running log, boy does that slow JOSM down. It seems Bing may be offset but having 100+ traces on some paths it is all just a big wide blob of grey. Still, the blob is offset. I might try and cobble together a tool to average them, in my non-existent spare time. Shouldn't be too hard for straight line paths (famous last words). BJ - yep I would love to dive in, already have -- but would hate to spend hours editing only to later realise I need to painstakingly go through and fix everything I've already done! I am still curious to know what the positional accuracy of survey markers is meant to be, if anyone can enlighten. On Sat, Sep 1, 2012 at 10:47 AM, Ian Sergeant ina...@gmail.com wrote: Agree with everything that Ben said. In addition, you may like to check the AGRI imagery. If the Bing and AGRI imagery align exactly, chances are you have well aligned Bing imagery. If the AGRI imagery aligns well with traces, it is easy enough to shift the Bing background to align with AGRI, and go from there. It may be an idea if you trace from bing offset, to mark that as your source, i.e source=bing (offset). That way people coming after you know what you've done. Ian. On 1 September 2012 09:53, Ben Johnson tangarar...@gmail.com wrote: Hi Russell, Welcome aboard. Just my thoughts... For a newbie, you've made some very astute observations about the accuracy of the aerial imagery, so thanks for giving it the degree of thought - because many others just dive in and start tracing without understanding these subtleties. You're absolutely correct. Its quite normal for Bing (and others) to be off by 10m or so, but in other areas it's very accurate. It differs all over the place. Whatever editing tool you're using (Potlatch, JOSM, etc..), should give you the ability to align your background imagery. Just be aware the further you move away from the area you have aligned, the more likely the alignment will need another adjustment. JOSM allows you bookmark such alignments. I have a bookmark for my home town. But the danger of bookmarking your aerial alignment is that if Bing updates their imagery, your bookmarked alignment will probably no longer apply. Just something to keep in mind. Your known survey mark is definitely an excellent start. You can make a node in OSM to those exact coordinates, then align your background imagery so the location of the survey mark in Bing aligns to your OSM node. I would not rely on other people's OSM edits on which to base your alignment. You don't know how accurate or inaccurate they are. Your survey mark is the best way, and the GPS traces. Are you aware you can upload and share your GPS traces (in your profile section), and you can view all the uploaded traces while editing? This is great for aligning the background image. Depending where you live, you might have some major roads in your area which already have lots of traces. If so, that's great - try and find a couple of busy intersections to align and you should get a good alignment. Otherwise you can try walking around a block several times, or around a park, or around a roundabout many many times (if you see men in white coming to get you... Run!) Another method is to use a fixed point - and approach it from different angles like cross hairs to a target. As far as GPX averaging goes, I'm personally not familiar with anything that does this, but this list has some very talented people who can help or point you in the right direction. I find software averaging is not necessary because if you look at the traces visually you'll immediately get a very good idea from their density when they're all presented together (eg if you look at the traces on a busy dual carriageway motorway you'll very easily see an average for each carriageway). In built up areas you just need to be mindful of whether traces originate from cyclists, motorists, or pedestrians... and apply a degree of commonsense. I'm not sure if software can possibly distinguish between a set of traces from a roadway, and another set of traces from an adjacent walkway / cycleway - in such cases an average is meaningless. As far as tweaking other people's edits... if you're confident with your accuracy, I'd just do it. But if you want to take a more cautious approach you can contact the original editor and ask whether they mind you tweaking - or at least ask what method they used to position their nodes and let them know you can make it more accurate for them. Keep in mind there are many inactive users who move onto
Re: [Talk-tr] Mapping Party
Selamlar, Eylül geliyor. Nasıl oldu son durumlar? İTÜ Geomatik'ten Öğretim Görevlisi bir arkadaş (birkaç öğrencisiyle birlikte) bir teknik gezi biçiminde bu etkinliğe katılmak istiyor. Bunun mümkünlüğü ne durumdadır? Bir de öğretmenevi ya da başka misafirhane ayarlamak mümkün müdür? Bu konuda yardımcı olmanız mümkün müdür? Eğer olumlu yanıt olursa okul içi yazışmalara başlayacaklar. Esenlikle:) 2012/7/23 Hakan Tandogan ha...@gurkensalat.com Merhaba Murat, Comenius sitesi [1] ve OSM wikisi [2] sayfalarinda bilgi edinebilisiniz. Ek olarak Facebook'da oluşturdugum sayfayada link ekledim, belki Face dolayısıyla partiye yardımcı olmak isteyen arkadaşların dikkatini çekebiliriz. Ne yazıkkı Istanbulda toplatıya katılmak biraz zor olacak ama Münihten yardımcı olabilmek icin elimden geleni yaparım :-) [1] http://comenius-osm.eu/?q=tr/blogs/team-turkey [2] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tr:Life_Long_Learning_Mapping_Project [3] http://www.facebook.com/groups/osm.turkey/ selamlar, program ayrıntıları belli oldu mu acaba? yahut programın duyurulduğu bir site var mıdır? esenlikle:) 2012/7/21 Necdet Varoglu necdetvaro...@gmail.com Selamlar, Eylül ayının son haftasında 4 yabancı ülkenin katılımıyla Bursa-Karacabey'de Mapping Party yapacağız. Bilginize... ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr -- ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr -- -- ___ Talk-tr mailing list Talk-tr@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-tr
Re: [Talk-de] Bug auf der Hauptseite (openstreetmap.org). Wer kann das reproduzieren?
Hallo, Tritt das nur bei mir auf, oder haben das andere auch? Tritt bei mir im Heimnetz mit Linux und Firefox nicht auf. Hab jetzt mal im Firmennetz mit squid Proxy unter WIN mit Firefox probiert. Da tritt es gehäuft auf. Gruß Burkhard ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Moin, kann mir jemand einen Tipp geben, warum in JOSM noch die alten Bing-Bilder aufgerufen werden aber bei bing.com schon die aktuellen zu sehen sind? Danke Gruß, Falk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Hi Falk, Das liegt an den temporären Daten! Du musst unter den Anwendungsdaten (WinXP: Nutzername\Anwendungsdaten\JOSM\cache\ oder Win7:AppData\Roaming?\JOSM\cache) den Bing-Ordner und die Datei bing.attribution.xml löschen. Dann sollten Dir in JOSM auch die neuen Bilder angezeigt werden. Viele Grüße, Constanze Original-Nachricht Betreff: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM Datum: Fri Aug 31 2012 09:05:33 GMT+0200 Von: Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@gmail.com An: Openstreetmap allgemeines in Deutsch talk-de@openstreetmap.org Moin, kann mir jemand einen Tipp geben, warum in JOSM noch die alten Bing-Bilder aufgerufen werden aber bei bing.com schon die aktuellen zu sehen sind? Danke Gruß, Falk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Moin Hatte auch gerade das Problem, da passt das Thema ja. Das Cache Zeug ist nicht das Problem, zumindest bei mir nicht, habs getestet. Ich habe gerade als ich eine Kleinigkeit anpassen wollte auch wieder alte Luftbilder angezeigt bekommen wo ich gestern Abend noch die neuen hatte. Ich habe auch gerade mal schnell mit potlatch2 einen Blick drauf geworfen und siehe da, auch altes Bildmaterial. -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Diskrepanz-Bing-Luftbilder-bing-com-und-JOSM-tp5722898p5722908.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM Datum: Fri Aug 31 2012 09:32:11 GMT+0200 Von: Fabian Patzke openstreet...@patzi.de An: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Das Cache Zeug ist nicht das Problem, zumindest bei mir nicht, habs getestet. Ich habe gerade als ich eine Kleinigkeit anpassen wollte auch wieder alte Luftbilder angezeigt bekommen wo ich gestern Abend noch die neuen hatte. Ich habe auch gerade mal schnell mit potlatch2 einen Blick drauf geworfen und siehe da, auch altes Bildmaterial. In meiner Ecke werden in den Tools und auch auf der Bing-Seite weiterhin die neuen Karten angezeigt. Viele Grüße, Constanze ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Nexus 7 als Offline-Navi
eventuell wäre das was passendes? http://www.heise.de/newsticker/meldung/Huawei-Mini-und-HD-Tablet-im-Oktober-1696168.html 250€ incl Kamera und sd-slot. Gruss walter -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Nexus-7-als-Offline-Navi-tp5722544p5722910.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Am 31. August 2012 09:37 schrieb tumsi tu...@gmx.de: Original-Nachricht Datum: Fri Aug 31 2012 09:32:11 GMT+0200 Von: Fabian Patzke openstreet...@patzi.de Das Cache Zeug ist nicht das Problem, zumindest bei mir nicht, habs getestet. Ich habe gerade als ich eine Kleinigkeit anpassen wollte auch wieder alte Luftbilder angezeigt bekommen wo ich gestern Abend noch die neuen hatte. In meiner Ecke werden in den Tools und auch auf der Bing-Seite weiterhin die neuen Karten angezeigt. Bei mir scheint es auch das von Fabian beschriebene Bingproblem zu sein. Wenn ich jetzt direkt auf Bing gehe, dann bekomme ich auch nur noch die alten Bilder. Und jetzt sind die neuen Bilder auf bing.com wieder da :-) Mal schauen, wie es jetzt bei JOSM ist :-) Danke Gruß, Falk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Am 31. August 2012 09:43 schrieb Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@gmail.com: Bei mir scheint es auch das von Fabian beschriebene Bingproblem zu sein. Wenn ich jetzt direkt auf Bing gehe, dann bekomme ich auch nur noch die alten Bilder. Und jetzt sind die neuen Bilder auf bing.com wieder da :-) Mal schauen, wie es jetzt bei JOSM ist :-) Mal so ins blaue hinein vermutet: habt ihr beide zufälligerweise den selben Provider? vg, Martin ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Am 31. August 2012 09:43 schrieb Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@gmail.com: Bei mir scheint es auch das von Fabian beschriebene Bingproblem zu sein. Wenn ich jetzt direkt auf Bing gehe, dann bekomme ich auch nur noch die alten Bilder. Und jetzt sind die neuen Bilder auf bing.com wieder da :-) Mal schauen, wie es jetzt bei JOSM ist :-) Im Augenblick besteht bei mir die Diskrepanz zwischen bing.com und JOSM (trotz geleertem Cache) weiter. Und auch auf Bing wechselt die Darstellung im Augenblick aller paar Minuten. Kann das sonst noch jemand für diese Region http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=53.94883lon=13.06938zoom=15layers=M bestätigen? Am 31. August 2012 09:48 schrieb Martin Vonwald imagic@gmail.com: Mal so ins blaue hinein vermutet: habt ihr beide zufälligerweise den selben Provider? Was könnte denn der Provider damit zu tun haben? Gruß, Falk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Am 31. August 2012 09:56 schrieb Falk Zscheile falk.zsche...@gmail.com: Was könnte denn der Provider damit zu tun haben? (Transparenter Zwangs-)Proxy für bestimmte Dienste. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Am 31.08.2012 09:56, schrieb Falk Zscheile: Im Augenblick besteht bei mir die Diskrepanz zwischen bing.com und JOSM (trotz geleertem Cache) weiter. Und auch auf Bing wechselt die Darstellung im Augenblick aller paar Minuten. na ja, bei mir ist noch alles beim alten :( Luftbilder die in bestimmten Bereichen nur mit Tricks anzuwenden sind. wie kann ich eigentlich herausbekommen wo es schon neue Bilder gibt? wer ma kann sich ja mal Simmerath (Eifel) ansehen, westlich. Grüße aus der Eifel Steffen -- Ich verwende die kostenlose Version von SPAMfighter für private Anwender, die bei mir bis jetzt 17883 Spammails entfernt hat. Rund 7 Millionen Leute nutzen SPAMfighter schon. Laden Sie SPAMfighter kostenlos herunter: http://www.spamfighter.com/lde ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug auf der Hauptseite (openstreetmap.org). Wer kann das reproduzieren?
Hallo! Am Fr, 31.08.2012, 07:42, schrieb Manuel Reimer: Hallo, seit ein paar Tagen erlebe ich regelmäßig, dass ich die Hauptseite (Karte) aufrufe und erstmal garnix sehe. Ich bin dem jetzt mal nachgegangen. Zumindest ich kann das Problem sehr einfach durch wiederholtes Neuladen reproduzieren. Beim Blick auf den Seitenquelltext offenbart sich, dass im head diverse Links und ein Script geladen wird. Bei wiederholtem Neuladen merkt man, dass sich im Link eine Zufallszeichenfolge ständig ändert. Zunächst mal die Frage: Was soll der Quatsch? Wenn man sich hier Zeile 5 mal rausnimmt und die Adresse in die Adresszeile des Browsers überträgt, dann lässt sich die Ursache des Problems recht gut reproduzieren. Hier ein Link zum problematischen Script, wie er bei mir im Seiten-Quellcode zu finden war: http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/application-10f7ba58903606e2f3170a36 7429df11.js Ja, leider. Genau so wie beschrieben tritt das Problem (hier in der Firma; IE+Firefox+Chrome) ständig (nicht nur manchmal) auf. Genau die selbe JS-Datei (exakt selber Name). Diese nun aufrufen und wiederholt Neu laden anklicken. Mit deutlich über 50%iger Wahrscheinlichkeit sehe ich folgenden Fehler: | File not found | | Couldn't find a file/directory/API operation by that name on the | OpenStreetMap server (HTTP 404) | | Feel free to contact the OpenStreetMap community if you have found a broken | link / bug. Make a note of the exact URL of your request Es kommt aber (recht selten) auch vor, tatsächlich das Script mit diesem Link aufrufen zu können. Tritt das nur bei mir auf, oder haben das andere auch? Hab mich neulich gewundert, als ein Bekannter mir diese Probleme meldete und glaubte noch an lokale Restriktionen. Bei allen, bei denen es noch nicht auftritt: probiert doch bitte mal ein Löschen des Caches oder Aktualisieren (F5 oder Strg+F5). Tritt dann das Problem bei allen auf? Bitte schnell reparieren, das könnte dem Ruf von OSM schaden!! Grüße Günther ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug auf der Hauptseite (openstreetmap.org). Wer kann das reproduzieren?
On Friday 31 August 2012 05:42:50 Manuel Reimer wrote: Hallo, seit ein paar Tagen erlebe ich regelmäßig, dass ich die Hauptseite (Karte) aufrufe und erstmal garnix sehe. Ich bin dem jetzt mal nachgegangen. Zumindest ich kann das Problem sehr einfach durch wiederholtes Neuladen reproduzieren. Beim Blick auf den Der host hat drei DNS Addressen: #host www.openstreetmap.org www.openstreetmap.org has address 193.63.75.103 www.openstreetmap.org has address 193.63.75.99 www.openstreetmap.org has address 193.63.75.100 193.63.75.100 gibt mir 404 zurück, 193.63.75.99 scheint die Datei zu haben. Ohne die interne OSM Rechnerarchitektur zu kennen tippe ich mal dass die Server nicht in sync sind. -- Jan ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug auf der Hauptseite (openstreetmap.org). Wer kann das reproduzieren?
Am Fr, 31.08.2012, 10:33, schrieb Günther Zin.: http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/application-10f7ba58903606e2f3170a367429df11.js Ja, leider. Genau so wie beschrieben tritt das Problem (hier in der Firma; IE+Firefox+Chrome) ständig (nicht nur manchmal) auf. Genau die selbe JS-Datei (exakt selber Name). Jetzt: selbes Problem, aber andere Datei: http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/application-f8eaffdf51d974ecb48a7560612cba25.js Manchmal, aber nicht immer: File not found Ist der Dateiname jetzt zufällig? Hat da schon jemand etwas daran geändert? Gruß Günther ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug auf der Hauptseite (openstreetmap.org). Wer kann das reproduzieren?
Am 31.08.2012 11:55, schrieb Jan Torben Heuer: Ohne die interne OSM Rechnerarchitektur zu kennen tippe ich mal dass die Server nicht in sync sind. Hab's mal als Note in Status reingeschrieben. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Platform_Status Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug auf der Hauptseite (openstreetmap.org). Wer kann das reproduzieren?
Hi, Günther Zin. schrieb: Am Fr, 31.08.2012, 10:33, schrieb Günther Zin.: http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/application-10f7ba58903606e2f3170a367429df11.js Ja, leider. Genau so wie beschrieben tritt das Problem (hier in der Firma; IE+Firefox+Chrome) ständig (nicht nur manchmal) auf. Genau die selbe JS-Datei (exakt selber Name). Jetzt: selbes Problem, aber andere Datei: http://www.openstreetmap.org/assets/application-f8eaffdf51d974ecb48a7560612cba25.js Manchmal, aber nicht immer: File not found Ist der Dateiname jetzt zufällig? Hat da schon jemand etwas daran geändert? Tom hat den Bug eben gefixt: http://git.openstreetmap.org/rails.git/commit/81336c4a87b8651b37523fef74ea0f819eea35fa Er hat im IRC osm-dev gebeten den Link hier zu posten. viele gruesse pascal ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Bug auf der Hauptseite (openstreetmap.org). Wer kann das reproduzieren?
Hi, Chris66 schrieb: Am 31.08.2012 11:55, schrieb Jan Torben Heuer: Ohne die interne OSM Rechnerarchitektur zu kennen tippe ich mal dass die Server nicht in sync sind. Hab's mal als Note in Status reingeschrieben. http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Platform_Status und Grant hat dies wieder zurückgespielt, via #osm-dev I reverted this: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/w/index.php?title=Platform_Statusaction=historysubmitdiff=802174oldid=800393 viele gruesse pascal ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Original-Nachricht Betreff: Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM Datum: Fri Aug 31 2012 09:32:11 GMT+0200 Von: Fabian Patzke openstreet...@patzi.de An: talk-de@openstreetmap.org Moin Hatte auch gerade das Problem, da passt das Thema ja. Das Cache Zeug ist nicht das Problem, zumindest bei mir nicht, habs getestet. Ich habe gerade als ich eine Kleinigkeit anpassen wollte auch wieder alte Luftbilder angezeigt bekommen wo ich gestern Abend noch die neuen hatte. Ich habe auch gerade mal schnell mit potlatch2 einen Blick drauf geworfen und siehe da, auch altes Bildmaterial. Ich habe jetzt auf einmal dasselbe Problem. Interessanterweise aber nur mit JOSM und nicht in Potlanch2 oder direkt über die Bing-Seite... sehr seltsam. Löschen der cache-Daten in JOSM brachte gar nichts. Zunächst sah ich in JOSM sogar erst noch die (gecachten) neuen Kacheln, die dann durch die alten Bilder überschrieben wurden! Viele Grüße, Constanze ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Vandalismus um Eckernförde und anderswo
Moin, nachdem nun so viele Meinungen, Ideen und Möglichkeiten zum Thema ausgetauscht worden, passiert jetzt was? Irgendwie habe ich nicht den Eindruck dass die Diskussion zielführend war. Es ging ganz konkret um _einen_ Vandalismusfall und um eine Lösung dies in diesem konkreten Fall zu unterbinden. Diskutiert wurden aber mögliche Barrieren um den Vandalismus allgemein Einhalt zu gebieten, was dann in - in meinen Augen - utopischen Vorschlägen gipfelte, die nicht umzusetzen sind. Auch genannte automatischen Schranken für Anfänger halte ich nicht für zielführend. Aber das war schon längst Offtopic. Warum hat denn niemand den Mumm diesen einen User per Strafanzeige (wenn dies der Weg ist um über die IP an die Adresse zu kommen) auf die Finger zu klopfen? Stattdessen werden Ideen propagiert, wo der aktellen Provider zu sperren ist. Mit der Hoffnung, dass der User zu einem Provider wechselt, der es mit dem Datenschutz nicht so genau nimmt und für einen Fünfer in die Kaffeekasse mal die Adresse des Users rausgibt? Gesundheitlich ist aber alles in Ordnung? Ich bin darueber nicht sonderlich gluecklich - die OSMF muss sich also praktisch genauso gebaerden wie irgendeine Filmfirma Ja, muß sie. Der Grund dafür nennt sich Gesetz. Alle haben sich daran zu halten. Die lieben Gutmenschen der OSMF und die pösen Raubmordkopierjäger der RIAA. Anstelle also technische Hürden aufzustellen, sollte man mit ihm mal klartext reden. Just my 2 cents Stefano ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Am 31.08.2012 15:33, schrieb tumsi: Ich habe jetzt auf einmal dasselbe Problem. Interessanterweise aber nur mit JOSM und nicht in Potlanch2 oder direkt über die Bing-Seite... sehr seltsam. Löschen der cache-Daten in JOSM brachte gar nichts. Hi, laut Forum soll man in der bing-attribution.xml den Wert g=1020 auf g=1026 ändern als Würkaround. Chris ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Vandalismus um Eckernförde und anderswo
Stefano Kowalke wrote Anstelle also technische Hürden aufzustellen, sollte man mit ihm mal klartext reden. 1+ übrigens ist morgen Samstag und seine Mammi geht bestimmt wieder einkaufen :( Gruss walter -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Vandalismus-um-Eckernforde-tp5721974p5723031.html Sent from the Germany mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Vandalismus um Eckernförde und anderswo
Stefano Kowalke blued...@gmx.net wrote: nachdem nun so viele Meinungen, Ideen und Möglichkeiten zum Thema ausgetauscht worden, passiert jetzt was? Nein, weil Frederik in Japan ist *SCNR* Sven -- TCP/IP: telecommunication protocol for imbibing pilsners (Man-page uubp(1C) on Debian/GNU Linux) /me is giggls@ircnet, http://sven.gegg.us/ on the Web ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] Re-Redaction-Bot noetig?
Hallo, das hab ich mal georakelt: Wenn die Beteiligten Nicht-Zustimmer irgendwann einmal noch zustimmen, dann sollten deren History-Versionen auch wieder zugaenglich sein. Und nun hab ich endlich ein Beispiel: http://www.openstreetmap.org/user/Tequilila hat vor 8 Tagen zugestimmt. Sein erster Edit ist aelter: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/3686275 Darin hat er diesen Knoten angelegt: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/618305541 Der wurde spaeter geloescht (Version 2). Und dann hat der Redaction-Bot gemeint, die Version 1 darf man nicht mehr ansehen, da sie von einem Nicht-Zustimmer angelegt wurde. Alles ok soweit. Doch jetzt nach der spaeten Zustimmung sollte man die Version 1 wieder ansehen koennen. Geht aber nicht: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/node/618305541/history Ist geplant, solche alten Versionen wieder zugaenglich zu machen? Gruss, Steffen -- Freu dich nicht zu früh auf den Sommer, Weihnachten ist gerade erst vorbei, im Einkaufszentrum gibt es heiße Ohren und im Fernsehen läuft der weiße Hai. [Element of Crime] ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] Diskrepanz Bing Luftbilder bing.com und JOSM
Am 31. August 2012 17:05 schrieb Chris66 chris66...@gmx.de: Am 31.08.2012 15:33, schrieb tumsi: Ich habe jetzt auf einmal dasselbe Problem. Interessanterweise aber nur mit JOSM und nicht in Potlanch2 oder direkt über die Bing-Seite... sehr seltsam. Löschen der cache-Daten in JOSM brachte gar nichts. laut Forum soll man in der bing-attribution.xml den Wert g=1020 auf g=1026 ändern als Würkaround. Zeigt hier (momentan) keinen Effekt, aber gerade sind auch wieder die alten Bilder auf Bing online. Falk ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
[Talk-de] I Like OpenStreetMap
Hi, der Eine oder Andere von Euch hat vlt. Frederik's Idee zu einer Qualitaetskontrolle stochastisch auf der Mailling-Liste hier gesehen [1]. Seine Idee war grob zusammengefasst einen OSM Kartenausschnitt durch zwei Buttons ala Facebook über Dauem hoch oder runter zu bewerten. Evtl. kommen dabei nicht verlässliche Daten heraus, aber es dürften zumindest Indikatoren oder Trends in den OSM Kartendaten zu erkennen sein. Insgesamt finde ich diesen Ansatz ebenfalls sehr interessant und in Abstimmung mit Frederik habe ich einen OpenLayers Plugins erstellt. Weitere Infos findet ihr auch in meinem gerade eben veröffentlichten Blog Post [2] oder unter [3]. Das iLike-Plugin kann mittels zwei Code-Zeilen einfach in jede OSM-Karte eingebaut werden, quasi so einfach wie das Hinzufügen eines weiteren Kartenlayers. Derzeit werden die Texte in DE und EN unterstützt, aber es kann jede beliebige Sprache ergänzt werden. Auf OSM DE haben wir es vorhin ebenfalls in die Karte bereits eingebaut [4]. Das Plugins wird auf einen deutschen OSM Devserver gehostet und die DB läuft auch dort. Die Sourcen des Plugins sind alle bei github zu finden [5]. Weiterhin gibt es jede Nacht einen täglichen Dump der kompletten iLike Datenbank zum Herunterladen. Das Plugin gibt lediglich eine nutzerunabhängig generierte UUID, Daumen hoch/runter, Zoomlevel, Layername und BBox des Kartenausschnitts an den Server weiter. Vor dem Senden wird der User aber mittels eines Pop Ups ausdrücklich um Erlaubnis gefragt. Was bringen die gespeicherten iLike OSM Daten? Aufbauend auf den Like/Dislikes Views könnte man generelle Statistiken erstellen, gemäß diesen Kartenausschnitt betrachten i.d.R. die folgende Anzahl von Usern, dadurch könnte die OSM Datenqualität XY sein. Nach dem Motto, dort wo viele sich die Karte anschauen, müssten die Daten eigentlich auch entsprechend gut sein. Um die Likes/Dislikes auszuwerten habe ich mal einen ersten möglichen Prototyp erstellt (vlt. sieht es später aber auch anders aus): http://ilike.openstreetmap.de/result.html Als möglicher Ausblick wäre es noch denkbar bei einem Dislike ein Eingabefeld mit einem Kommentar zu ermöglichen und diese Information ebenfalls z.B. bei OpenStreetBugs abzuspeichern. Das aber nur mal als Idee. Ich hoffe es gefällt euch?! viele gruesse pascal [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2012-July/096519.html [2] http://neis-one.org/2012/08/i-like-osm/ [3] http://ilike.openstreetmap.de/ [4] http://openstreetmap.de/karte.html [5] https://github.com/pa5cal/ILikeOpenStreetMap ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-de] I Like OpenStreetMap
Hi, Sorry, habe ich eben in der deutschen Variante ganz vergessen zu erwähnen. Danke auch an Frederik, Jochen, Jonas, Dennis, Sven Marc für ihr Feedback immer wieder! viele gruesse pascal Pascal Neis schrieb: Hi, der Eine oder Andere von Euch hat vlt. Frederik's Idee zu einer ... Ich hoffe es gefällt euch?! viele gruesse pascal [1] http://lists.openstreetmap.org/pipermail/talk-de/2012-July/096519.html [2] http://neis-one.org/2012/08/i-like-osm/ [3] http://ilike.openstreetmap.de/ [4] http://openstreetmap.de/karte.html [5] https://github.com/pa5cal/ILikeOpenStreetMap ___ Talk-de mailing list Talk-de@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-de
Re: [Talk-in] Monuments of India - geographical co-ordinates?
Russia uses OSM more extensively http://wikilovesmonuments.ru/ On 30 August 2012 23:49, Arun Ganesh arun.plane...@gmail.com wrote: The workflow that Onkar suggested seems sensible to me, but it boils down to the availability of data and how we can go about it. I think the starting point is an exhaustive database of these structures which has a usable primary key. The current WLM list has descriptions, but not names which makes finding these structures a bit of a hunt. What can be done with the available data is to get coordinates to the town/village level and map those which are not on osm. -- Arun Ganesh (planemad) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/User:Planemad Geography.Information.Design ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in ___ Talk-in mailing list Talk-in@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-in
Re: [Talk-it] Route per sentiero non segnalato
Il 08/31/2012 11:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer scrisse: dimenticavo: se non ci sono segni rimane comunque il problema della licenza, perchè è vietato di copiare mappe o tabelloni, se non hanno un riferimento esplicito di una licenza compatibile con CT/Odbl. L'alternativa sarebbe di chiedere al operatore delle mappe si ci danno permesso per inserirlo in OSM. Ma io non sto copiando dalle mappe. Sto percorrendo i sentieri e registrando il percorso col gps. Sui tabelloni e sulle mappe vedo solo che qualcuno (il Parco del Campo dei Fiori) chiama quel percorso Sentiero X. ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Route per sentiero non segnalato
2012/8/31 emmexx emm...@tiscalinet.it: Il 08/31/2012 11:27 AM, Martin Koppenhoefer scrisse: dimenticavo: se non ci sono segni rimane comunque il problema della licenza, perchč č vietato di copiare mappe o tabelloni, se non hanno un riferimento esplicito di una licenza compatibile con CT/Odbl. L'alternativa sarebbe di chiedere al operatore delle mappe si ci danno permesso per inserirlo in OSM. Ma io non sto copiando dalle mappe. Sto percorrendo i sentieri e registrando il percorso col gps. Sui tabelloni e sulle mappe vedo solo che qualcuno (il Parco del Campo dei Fiori) chiama quel percorso Sentiero X. bo, non lo so, si potrebbe rischiare. Quella informazione sentiero X potrebbe forse essere protetta da copyright (ricordo che in Francia la loro CAI si riserva il diritto sui nomi dei sentieri (rotte)*1), nel senso che non si tratta di un percorso ma in realtà di un opera creativa (fissare una rotta sui percorsi esistenti). *1 in realtà hanno protetto la parola Grande Randonnée® ed anche GR come abbreviazione: http://www.gr-infos.com/ http://forum.openstreetmap.org/viewtopic.php?id=3665 ciao, Martin ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Compilare la mappa dell'Italia per Osmand
Il 23/08/2012 8:22, Gianmario Mengozzi ha scritto: ciao, vedo che la mappa italiana su gfoss in formato .obf è ferma al 6 agosto (dall'app si scarica quella al 20/7) con che frequenza riuscite a renderla disponibile? settimanalmente è chiedervi troppo ? ok ok , non mi insultate ora.. ;)) Ho fatto un po' di esperimenti, purtroppo non sono riuscito a compilare la mappa per l'italia. In compenso ho scoperto che compilare una mappa per una regione sola, come la Toscana o L'Emilia Romagna (i cui file pbf sono disponibili su gfoss), è un'operazione banale, l'applicazione non si è mai bloccata ed in 15-20 minuti si ha una mappa pronta all'uso. Chi ha bisogno di mappe aggiornate può farci un pensierino. -- Giacomo Boschi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Compilare la mappa dell'Italia per Osmand
Ciao, Giacomo se puoi a me interesserebbe sapere come hai fatto e qualche dettaglio sulla tua esperienza, uso OsmAnd e le Osm per testare entrambi che trovo direi abbastanza buoni. Grazie. Ciao, Mirco -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/Compilare-la-mappa-dell-Italia-per-Osmand-tp5713934p5722969.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Visualizzazione sentieri inseriti
Non me ne vogliate, ma per essere obiettivi, non si può negare un generale stato di stallo del sistema... I mappatori si danno da fare per inserire di tutto e di più, aggiungere documentazione wiki e quant'altro...e in risposta non si notano miglioramenti...anzi... la renderizzazione osmarender viene dismessa, e assieme a lei scompare la visualizzazione delle strade senza nome noname, nonchè il livello Dati da cui si potevano ricavare utili informazioni direttamente dal sito. si fanno raccolte fondi, si individuano i 10 task [1] più importanti da fare per migliorare osm, e poi? a parte un restyling del sito, non mi pare ci siano ancora i POI cliccabili... anzi i POI sono sempre gli stessi...almeno in passato ogni tanto ne aggiungevano qualcuno... Come se non bastasse, si aggiunge ora anche la perdita di dati a causa del cambio di licenza...e noi giù a rimappare tutto... Chiedere che la cyclemap si aggiorni almeno ogni 10 giorni mi pare il minimo...o aspettiamo che IL NEMICO :-) di Mountain View se ne esca con le piste ciclabili aggiornate giornalmente? Ora che il passaggio a odbl è compiuto non hanno più la scusa di dire eh ma c'è il cambio di licenza in atto meglio aspettare... Staremo a vedere [1] http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Top_Ten_Tasks ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] TomTom arriva su Android a ottobre, ecco come sarà - Tom's Hardware Mobile
FYI: http://www.tomshw.it/mobile/cont/news/tomtom-arriva-su-android-a-ottobre-ecco-come-sara/39384/1.html Non so voi ma a me la storia dei quattro aggiornamenti all'anno mi fa pena. Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Compilare la mappa dell'Italia per Osmand
Quale versione di osmandmapcreator hai utilizzato? Hai verificato se le mappe regionali che dicevi funzionano con la nuova versione di OsmAnd del market (0.8.2)? Gianmario Mengozzi sent by GNexus Il giorno 31/ago/2012 12:17, Giacomo Boschi gwil...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 23/08/2012 8:22, Gianmario Mengozzi ha scritto: ciao, vedo che la mappa italiana su gfoss in formato .obf è ferma al 6 agosto (dall'app si scarica quella al 20/7) con che frequenza riuscite a renderla disponibile? settimanalmente è chiedervi troppo ? ok ok , non mi insultate ora.. ;)) Ho fatto un po' di esperimenti, purtroppo non sono riuscito a compilare la mappa per l'italia. In compenso ho scoperto che compilare una mappa per una regione sola, come la Toscana o L'Emilia Romagna (i cui file pbf sono disponibili su gfoss), è un'operazione banale, l'applicazione non si è mai bloccata ed in 15-20 minuti si ha una mappa pronta all'uso. Chi ha bisogno di mappe aggiornate può farci un pensierino. -- Giacomo Boschi __**_ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ithttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] TomTom arriva su Android a ottobre, ecco come sarà - Tom's Hardware Mobile
TT é fuori tempo massimo su android: la concorrenza con il naviga tor di Google é ostica (anche se é ancora oggi in beta e la navigazione offline - per ora - non c'è..) e poi soluzioni basate su osm si stanno facendo sotto.. Gianmario Mengozzi sent by GNexus Il giorno 31/ago/2012 14:39, niubii f.pelu...@gmail.com ha scritto: FYI: http://www.tomshw.it/mobile/cont/news/tomtom-arriva-su-android-a-ottobre-ecco-come-sara/39384/1.html Non so voi ma a me la storia dei quattro aggiornamenti all'anno mi fa pena. Ciao /niubii/ ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] OSMAND 8.2
OSMAND 8.2 Ho scaricato e installato la nuova versione di osmand La mappa si è velocizzata e anche alcuni percorsi prima strani ora vengono migliorati (non tutti però). Anche graficamente si notano miglioramenti,viene pure menzionata in alto il nome della via che verrà percorsa successivamente nel percorso anche se non viene letta. Restano ancora i soliti problemi riguardo il percorso offline (max 50km) e la voce troppo prolissa e presente. Ho scaricato la voce di chiara ed ho sostituito tenere la sinistra con sempre dritto (u turn quasi quasi lo cancello) e va un pochino meglio. Se qualcuno non l’ha già fatto si potrebbe segnalare nel forum tale problemino. Nell’installazione si afferma che questa versione visualizza e allerta per i velox oltre a mostrare le corsie e le velocità. Nella voce scaricata però non compare nessun avviso velox e nemmeno nell’interfaccia? Qualcuno sa come nominare un file ogg perché tale avviso sia presente e chiara lo legga? Scaricando la versione plus di concreto oltre a poter scaricare più file si hanno maggiori miglioramenti? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] tag per laterale a piazza
Una strada ad accesso limitato ai lati di una piazzetta pedonale, pedonale pure essa per la maggioranza dei casi a cui si intersecano delle residenziali anche a vicolo cieco secondo voi come andrebbe segnalata? La strada è percorribile in auto solo dai residenti di quelle vie e anche con telecamera all’ingresso. Generalmente è pedonale al 90% Pedestrian Access designated e i vicoli residential residential Access designated con vicoli pure residential Service Access designated con vicoli residential ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSMAND 8.2
Ciao Per gli autovelox non so, ti posso dire per esperienza diretta che i limiti di velocità compaiono solo se sulla way nel db è presente il tag maxspeed. Se ho letto bene , la versione OsmAnd+ non ha alcuna differenza funzionale da quella free: pagando dai il tuo contributo economico allo sviluppo dell'app. Gianmario Mengozzi sent by GNexus Il giorno 31/ago/2012 15:01, beppebo...@libero.it beppebo...@libero.it ha scritto: OSMAND 8.2 Ho scaricato e installato la nuova versione di osmand La mappa si è velocizzata e anche alcuni percorsi prima strani ora vengono migliorati (non tutti però). Anche graficamente si notano miglioramenti,viene pure menzionata in alto il nome della via che verrà percorsa successivamente nel percorso anche se non viene letta. Restano ancora i soliti problemi riguardo il percorso offline (max 50km) e la voce troppo prolissa e presente. Ho scaricato la voce di chiara ed ho sostituito tenere la sinistra con sempre dritto (u turn quasi quasi lo cancello) e va un pochino meglio. Se qualcuno non l’ha già fatto si potrebbe segnalare nel forum tale problemino. Nell’installazione si afferma che questa versione visualizza e allerta per i velox oltre a mostrare le corsie e le velocità. Nella voce scaricata però non compare nessun avviso velox e nemmeno nell’interfaccia? Qualcuno sa come nominare un file ogg perché tale avviso sia presente e chiara lo legga? Scaricando la versione plus di concreto oltre a poter scaricare più file si hanno maggiori miglioramenti? ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Visualizzazione sentieri inseriti
On 2012-08-31 at 14:25:42 +0200, Fabri wrote: Non me ne vogliate, ma per essere obiettivi, non si può negare un generale stato di stallo del sistema... I mappatori si danno da fare per inserire di tutto e di più, aggiungere documentazione wiki e quant'altro...e in risposta non si notano miglioramenti...anzi... la renderizzazione osmarender viene dismessa, e assieme a lei scompare la visualizzazione delle strade senza nome noname, nonchè il livello Dati da cui si potevano ricavare utili informazioni direttamente dal sito. La renderizzazione osmarender richiedeva risorse ed era molto utile quando la renderizzazione principale avveniva una volta alla settimana: da quando la renderizzazione di mapnik è quasi in tempo reale era diventata molto meno utile. Per il layer noname c'è l'OSM inspector_, che fa quello e molto di più. .. _inspector: http://tools.geofabrik.de/osmi/ Ed infine il livello dati è stato tolto per un breve periodo, ma è tornato subito, anche se spostato nel menù Edit. anzi i POI sono sempre gli stessi...almeno in passato ogni tanto ne aggiungevano qualcuno... Ormai la mappa è discretamente piena, aggiungere ulteriori POI alla mappa generica non mi sembra una grande idea. In compenso ci sono sempre più rendering specializzati di terze parti che visualizzano una grande varietà di POI, divisi per area di interesse. Come se non bastasse, si aggiunge ora anche la perdita di dati a causa del cambio di licenza...e noi giù a rimappare tutto... questo è stato gestito male, ma si sapeva che sarebbe successo da almeno 3-4 anni, ed era purtroppo necessario. Chiedere che la cyclemap si aggiorni almeno ogni 10 giorni mi pare il minimo...o aspettiamo che IL NEMICO :-) di Mountain View se ne esca con le piste ciclabili aggiornate giornalmente? attenzione che la cyclemap non è gestita dalla foundation: è un rendering gestito da una sola persona che le dedica le poche risorse che può dedicarle. Certo, si potrebbe decidere di fare un rendering per biciclette assieme a quello standard di mapnik, ma a quel punto perche' non anche uno per escursionisti? e uno per evidenziare i parcheggi? e uno per le piste da sci? Non se ne uscirebbe più. Notare che sono tutti esempi che esistono come rendering indipendenti di terze parti. Tra l'altro l'autore della cyclemap non ha rilasciato i fogli di stile, per cui si dovrebbe rifare tutto il lavoro da capo. -- Elena ``of Valhalla'' ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSMAND 8.2
Per gli autovelox non so, ti posso dire per esperienza diretta che i limiti di velocità compaiono solo se sulla way nel db è presente il tag maxspeed. ... e se superi di qualcosa la velocità del limite (non mi ricordo se 20 o 30 km/h) ti compare sullo schermo in basso a destra il segnale con il limite. Damjan ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Compilare la mappa dell'Italia per Osmand
Il 31/08/2012 14:13, mircozorzo ha scritto: Giacomo se puoi a me interesserebbe sapere come hai fatto e qualche dettaglio sulla tua esperienza, uso OsmAnd e le Osm per testare entrambi che trovo direi abbastanza buoni. Procedura passo passo: - Scarico OsmAndMapCreator da qui: http://download.osmand.net/latest-night-build/OsmAndMapCreator-marketcompatible.zip - Modifico il file OsmAndMapCreator.sh nel modo descritto da Niccolò: #!/bin/sh java -Djava.util.logging.config.file=logging.properties \ -Djava.io.tmpdir=./tmp \ -Xms512M -Xmx2048M \ -cp ./OsmAndMapCreator.jar:./lib/*.jar \ net.osmand.swing.OsmExtractionUI - Scarico il file della regione di interesse da qui: http://download.gfoss.it/osm/osm/regioni/ - Avvio OsmAndMapCreator e seleziono File - create .obf from osm file - Seleziono il file della regione - Alla fine trasferisco il file obf dalla cartella di lavoro di OsmAndMapCreator al cellulare Se hai altre domande chiedi pure! -- Giacomo Boschi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Compilare la mappa dell'Italia per Osmand
Il 31/08/2012 14:38, Gianmario Mengozzi ha scritto: Quale versione di osmandmapcreator hai utilizzato? 0.8.1 Hai verificato se le mappe regionali che dicevi funzionano con la nuova versione di OsmAnd del market (0.8.2)? No, ho scoperto solo ora la nuova versione. Ero ancora alla 0.8.1 -- Giacomo Boschi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12891423 Matteo, tieni d'occhio il tuo Procione... ( http://osm.org/go/0IG_OX8di-- ) Saluti Guido ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Compilare la mappa dell'Italia per Osmand
Ehm oggi hanno tolto il file osmandmapcreator che indichi, poiché è incompatibile con l'ultima versione di OsmAnd presente sul play store (0.8.2). Spero che a breve pubblicheranno nuova release. Gianmario Mengozzi sent by GNexus Il giorno 31/ago/2012 16:18, Giacomo Boschi gwil...@gmail.com ha scritto: Il 31/08/2012 14:13, mircozorzo ha scritto: Giacomo se puoi a me interesserebbe sapere come hai fatto e qualche dettaglio sulla tua esperienza, uso OsmAnd e le Osm per testare entrambi che trovo direi abbastanza buoni. Procedura passo passo: - Scarico OsmAndMapCreator da qui: http://download.osmand.net/**latest-night-build/**OsmAndMapCreator-** marketcompatible.ziphttp://download.osmand.net/latest-night-build/OsmAndMapCreator-marketcompatible.zip - Modifico il file OsmAndMapCreator.sh nel modo descritto da Niccolò: #!/bin/sh java -Djava.util.logging.config.**file=logging.properties \ -Djava.io.tmpdir=./tmp \ -Xms512M -Xmx2048M \ -cp ./OsmAndMapCreator.jar:./lib/***.jar \ net.osmand.swing.**OsmExtractionUI - Scarico il file della regione di interesse da qui: http://download.gfoss.it/osm/**osm/regioni/http://download.gfoss.it/osm/osm/regioni/ - Avvio OsmAndMapCreator e seleziono File - create .obf from osm file - Seleziono il file della regione - Alla fine trasferisco il file obf dalla cartella di lavoro di OsmAndMapCreator al cellulare Se hai altre domande chiedi pure! -- Giacomo Boschi __**_ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ithttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
Direi che lo ho disegnato bene! :) 2012/8/31 Guido Piazzi gu...@fotocaos.it http://www.openstreetmap.org/**browse/changeset/12891423http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12891423 Matteo, tieni d'occhio il tuo Procione... ( http://osm.org/go/0IG_OX8di-- ) Saluti Guido __**_ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ithttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *«La mente è come un paracadute. Funziona solo se si apre.»* * * -- *Be GREEN and keep it on your SCREEN!* --Ai sensi del Decreto Legislativo n. 196 del 30 giugno 2003 (Codice Privacy) si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservarte e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola le fosse pervenuto per errore, la prego di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandomene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie. This message, for the Italian Legislative Decree No. 196 of 30th June 2003 (Privacy Code), may contain confidential and/or privileded information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information here in. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
Siamo una mailing list di cattivo gusto... è evidente! :\ Il giorno 31 agosto 2012 16:32, Matteo Quatrida matteo.quatr...@gmail.comha scritto: Direi che lo ho disegnato bene! :) 2012/8/31 Guido Piazzi gu...@fotocaos.it http://www.openstreetmap.org/**browse/changeset/12891423http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12891423 Matteo, tieni d'occhio il tuo Procione... ( http://osm.org/go/0IG_OX8di-- ) Saluti Guido __**_ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.**org/listinfo/talk-ithttp://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- *«La mente è come un paracadute. Funziona solo se si apre.»* * * -- *Be GREEN and keep it on your SCREEN!* --Ai sensi del Decreto Legislativo n. 196 del 30 giugno 2003 (Codice Privacy) si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservarte e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola le fosse pervenuto per errore, la prego di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandomene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie. This message, for the Italian Legislative Decree No. 196 of 30th June 2003 (Privacy Code), may contain confidential and/or privileded information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information here in. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. -- *«La mente è come un paracadute. Funziona solo se si apre.»* * * -- *Be GREEN and keep it on your SCREEN!* --Ai sensi del Decreto Legislativo n. 196 del 30 giugno 2003 (Codice Privacy) si precisa che le informazioni contenute in questo messaggio sono riservarte e ad uso esclusivo del destinatario. Qualora il messaggio in parola le fosse pervenuto per errore, la prego di eliminarlo senza copiarlo e di non inoltrarlo a terzi, dandomene gentilmente comunicazione. Grazie. This message, for the Italian Legislative Decree No. 196 of 30th June 2003 (Privacy Code), may contain confidential and/or privileded information. If you are not the addressee or authorized to receive this for the addressee, you must not use, copy, disclose or take any action based on this message or any information here in. If you have received this message in error, please advise the sender immediately by reply e-mail and delete this message. Thank you for your cooperation. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
Il 08/31/2012 04:26 PM, Guido Piazzi scrisse: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12891423 Interessante il ragionamento usato dall'utente che ha rimosso il relitto. Qualche navigante che faccia uso la mappa OSM, in caso di schianto contro la Costa Concordia, sapra' chi ringraziare e scoprira' che il non territorio fa altrettanto male che il territorio quando ci sbatti contro. Questo e' uno degli aspetti negativi di osm. :-( ciao maxx ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
Qualcuno conosce l'utente Fiore? L'argomento della costa concordia sulla mappa di OSM e' storia molto vecchia Avevo tradotto un comunicato stampa in merito http://de.straba.us/2012/01/20/openseamap-mostra-il-percorso-della-costa-concordia/ Piu' che altro, leggendo il commento eliminato la sagoma del relitto della Costa Concordia, oltre che di cattivo gusto non fa parte del territorio e quindi non mi sembra sia il caso di farla comparire su una mappa.. e visto che quella way aveva subito 14 modifiche tra l'altro da parte di utenti stranieri http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/145676233/history per quanto il discorso di Fiore possa essere condivisibile, un confronto con il resto della comunita' lo avrei fatto. My 2 cents On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Guido Piazzi gu...@fotocaos.it wrote: http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12891423 Matteo, tieni d'occhio il tuo Procione... ( http://osm.org/go/0IG_OX8di-- ) Saluti Guido ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
[Talk-it] Rendering parco naturale + sostituzione batch su JOSM
ciao a tutti, con il changeset [1] ho caricato i confini del parco naturale di Paneveggio - Pale di San Martino su OSM (dati CC0 della Provincia autonoma di Trento). Ho raccolto tutto in una relazione [2], perché il percorso aveva troppi punti, ma devo aver sbagliato qualcosa perché il parco non si è materializzato (mentre cambi più recenti e altrettanto corposi sì. Chi riesce ad individuare l'inghippo? Inoltre sembre nell'ambito dei dati PAT, vorrei cambiare/sostituire massivamente la denominazione di una chiave (da UR_CD=* a description=*) per una selezione di dati (tutti i dati con quella chiave), senza intaccare il valore, prima di procedere all'upload. I dati con quella chiave sono sia way che relations. Come devo fare? ciao Tiziano [1] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12919985 [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2385051 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSMAND 8.2
c'è un file ogg da inserire nella cartella come avviso? Come nominarlo? Messaggio originale Da: dam...@damjan.net Data: 31/08/2012 15.29 A: talk-it@openstreetmap.org Ogg: Re: [Talk-it] OSMAND 8.2 Per gli autovelox non so, ti posso dire per esperienza diretta che i limiti di velocità compaiono solo se sulla way nel db è presente il tag maxspeed. ... e se superi di qualcosa la velocità del limite (non mi ricordo se 20 o 30 km/h) ti compare sullo schermo in basso a destra il segnale con il limite. Damjan ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Dubbio su come mappare un oggetto insolito
A proposito, un utente ha mappato diversi aerei sparsi in giro http://www. openstreetmap.org/browse/changeset/12911401 usando i seguenti tag: aircraft:type = military historic = aircraft manufacturer = Boeing name = Boeing B-52D ref = 55-0085 tourism = attraction wikipedia = Boeing B-52 Stratofortress Alessandro ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
Chi ha rimosso il relitto, ha sbagliato. Perche' cattivo gusto? L importante che il programma di rendering non colori i relitti di blu o di verde. Poi quando sara' rimosso verra cancellato da Osm. Osm e' dinamico Il giorno 31/ago/2012 16:43, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Qualcuno conosce l'utente Fiore? L'argomento della costa concordia sulla mappa di OSM e' storia molto vecchia Avevo tradotto un comunicato stampa in merito http://de.straba.us/2012/01/20/openseamap-mostra-il-percorso-della-costa-concordia/ Piu' che altro, leggendo il commento eliminato la sagoma del relitto della Costa Concordia, oltre che di cattivo gusto non fa parte del territorio e quindi non mi sembra sia il caso di farla comparire su una mappa.. e visto che quella way aveva subito 14 modifiche tra l'altro da parte di utenti stranieri http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/145676233/history per quanto il discorso di Fiore possa essere condivisibile, un confronto con il resto della comunita' lo avrei fatto. My 2 cents On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Guido Piazzi gu...@fotocaos.it wrote: http://www.openstreetmap... -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http... ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Rendering parco naturale + sostituzione batch su JOSM
Il 31 agosto 2012 16:44, Tiziano D'Angelo ha scritto: devo aver sbagliato qualcosa perché il parco non si è materializzato (mentre cambi più recenti e altrettanto corposi sì. Chi riesce ad individuare l'inghippo? manca il tag type [2] http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/relation/2385051 -- Daniele Forsi ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
io direi di fare il revert della modifica e di scrivere a fiore, dopotutto è un utente giovane. scrivo io a fiore, citanto il messaggio originale nella mailinglist. -S 2012/8/31 giovanni di lorenzo giovannidilorenzo1...@gmail.com: Chi ha rimosso il relitto, ha sbagliato. Perche' cattivo gusto? L importante che il programma di rendering non colori i relitti di blu o di verde. Poi quando sara' rimosso verra cancellato da Osm. Osm e' dinamico Il giorno 31/ago/2012 16:43, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: Qualcuno conosce l'utente Fiore? L'argomento della costa concordia sulla mappa di OSM e' storia molto vecchia Avevo tradotto un comunicato stampa in merito http://de.straba.us/2012/01/20/openseamap-mostra-il-percorso-della-costa-concordia/ Piu' che altro, leggendo il commento eliminato la sagoma del relitto della Costa Concordia, oltre che di cattivo gusto non fa parte del territorio e quindi non mi sembra sia il caso di farla comparire su una mappa.. e visto che quella way aveva subito 14 modifiche tra l'altro da parte di utenti stranieri http://www.openstreetmap.org/browse/way/145676233/history per quanto il discorso di Fiore possa essere condivisibile, un confronto con il resto della comunita' lo avrei fatto. My 2 cents On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 4:26 PM, Guido Piazzi gu...@fotocaos.it wrote: http://www.openstreetmap... -- Maurizio Napo Napolitano http://de.straba.us ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http... ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] StammTisch in Alto Adige?
Il 30 agosto 2012 09:20, Alessio Zanol nar...@infinito.it ha scritto: [] io io io -- * Matteo Gottardi | matg...@tin.it * ICQ UIN 20381372 * Linux - the choice of a GNU generation * GPG Fingerprint: * B9EE 108F 52C8 D50C B667 B1F2 AB56 8A01 BA3D 36A1 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
Il giorno 31/ago/2012 16:43, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: per quanto il discorso di Fiore possa essere condivisibile, un confronto con il resto della comunita' lo avrei fatto. Come tra l'altro si era fatto anche quando è stata inserita. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
2012/8/31 Vezzo vezz...@gmail.com: Il giorno 31/ago/2012 16:43, Maurizio Napolitano napoo...@gmail.com ha scritto: per quanto il discorso di Fiore possa essere condivisibile, un confronto con il resto della comunita' lo avrei fatto. Come tra l'altro si era fatto anche quando è stata inserita. ho appena scritto all'utente. invitandolo nella mailinglist e dandogli URL di riferimento alle discussioni. -- -S ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Fervono i lavori per la rimozione della Costa Concordia...
Il giorno 31 agosto 2012 17:59, Simone Cortesi sim...@cortesi.com ha scritto: io direi di fare il revert della modifica e di scrivere a fiore, dopotutto è un utente giovane. scrivo io a fiore, citanto il messaggio originale nella mailinglist. -S +1 Sono poco ferrato con il tedesco, ma era stata menzionata anche in [1] FabC [1] http://vimeo.com/36007091 ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] Rendering parco naturale + sostituzione batch su JOSM
Il 31/08/2012 16:44, Tiziano D'Angelo ha scritto: ciao a tutti, con il changeset [1] ho caricato i confini del parco naturale di Paneveggio - Pale di San Martino su OSM (dati CC0 della Provincia autonoma di Trento). Ho raccolto tutto in una relazione [2], perché il percorso aveva troppi punti, ma devo aver sbagliato qualcosa perché il parco non si è materializzato (mentre cambi più recenti e altrettanto corposi sì. Chi riesce ad individuare l'inghippo? Circa il perché del mancato rendering, non saprei risponderti (oppure sparo: prova a mettere area=yes). Tuttavia vorrei fare un paio di osservazioni: (1) Le way che compongono la relazione dovrebbero essere prive di tag, o al più avere quei tag che possono variare da un tratto all'altro, come source (per esempio se parte del confine del parco coincide con un confine amministrativo, puoi inserire la stessa way in entrambe le relazioni, scegliendo la fonte che giudichi più attendibile). (2) boundary=national_park e leisure=nature_reserve sono tag alternativi, e da quanto ho capito sono anche piuttosto primitivi. nel caso in questione, nessuno dei due è appropriato, dato che Paneveggio è un parco regionale (non nazionale) e come tale non è neppure una riserva naturale, inoltre l'idea di mettere le riserve naturali nella categoria leisure fa arricciare il naso a molta gente... il tag corretto dovrebbe essere boundary=protected_area, che però comporta un paio di problemi. Il primo è che le protected_area, per ora, non si vedono, né su mapnik, né su opencyclemap... mi pare che solo http://www.itoworld.com/ abbia un tool per visualizzarle. Il secondo è che bisognerebbe concordare a livello nazionale quali valori usare per il tag protect_class per le varie tipologie di aree protette che ci sono in Italia. 2 mi sembra adeguato per il Gran Paradiso, per Paneveggio non saprei. Per via di questi problemi io stesso ho finora usato poco questi tag. Al momento di dare invia vedo che l'area del parco si è già riempita di NR verdi... tienici aggiornati. Guido ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-it] OSMAND 8.2
Ciao, nella versione + c'è solo la possibilità di scaricare più di 8 mappe e il collegamento con le informazioni sui pdi offline di Wikipedia. Ciao, Mirco -- View this message in context: http://gis.19327.n5.nabble.com/OSMAND-8-2-tp5722990p5723083.html Sent from the Italy General mailing list archive at Nabble.com. ___ Talk-it mailing list Talk-it@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-it
Re: [Talk-co] OSM en Pilas Bogotá
El remapeo En verdad se perdio bastante en Bogotá, en el cambio de licencia respecto a nombres de calles... HarriercoDate: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:22:22 -0500 From: hyan...@gmail.com To: talk-co@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-co] OSM en Pilas Bogotá Estimados maper@s: Buenos días. El diario El Tiempo en conjunto con el Centro Internacional de Periodistas han creado un servicio basado en Ushahidi para reportar los crímenes en la capital del país. Me place anunciarles que la cartografía base es de OSM. Pilas Bogotá es una herramienta interactiva que permite que habitantes de Bogotá realicen reportes acerca de crímenes de los que han sido víctimas. http://www.eltiempo.com/pilasbogota/ Saludos, Humberto Yances PD: Así que pilas con el mapeo! ;-) ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-co] twitter openstreetmap colombia
Alguien creeria viable crear un twiter para openstreetmap colombia?? que no necesariamente se redireccione contenido de la wiki y sea mas como para gente del comun?? Harrierco ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] OSM en Pilas Bogotá
Fue desastroso para las vías principales. En el mapa no se ve tan mal, pero casi todas quedaron rotas, desconectadas y con etiquetas equivocadas, lo que lo convierte en un infierno para el ruteo. Am Freitag, den 31.08.2012, 07:20 -0500 schrieb Harrier Co: El remapeo En verdad se perdio bastante en Bogotá, en el cambio de licencia respecto a nombres de calles... Harrierco __ Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2012 07:22:22 -0500 From: hyan...@gmail.com To: talk-co@openstreetmap.org Subject: [Talk-co] OSM en Pilas Bogotá Estimados maper@s: Buenos días. El diario El Tiempo en conjunto con el Centro Internacional de Periodistas han creado un servicio basado en Ushahidi para reportar los crímenes en la capital del país. Me place anunciarles que la cartografía base es de OSM. Pilas Bogotá es una herramienta interactiva que permite que habitantes de Bogotá realicen reportes acerca de crímenes de los que han sido víctimas. http://www.eltiempo.com/pilasbogota/ Saludos, Humberto Yances PD: Así que pilas con el mapeo! ;-) ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] twitter openstreetmap colombia
Bacana la idea, +1 2012/8/31 hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com: Buena idea, podemos usar un logo distintivo como este http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1720266/osm-col.png Viable si es, hay muchos países que ya lo hacen. El 31 de agosto de 2012 07:27, Harrier Co harrie...@hotmail.com escribió: Alguien creeria viable crear un twiter para openstreetmap colombia?? que no necesariamente se redireccione contenido de la wiki y sea mas como para gente del comun?? Harrierco ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] twitter openstreetmap colombia
2012/8/31 Igor TAmara i...@tamarapatino.org les parece twit...@openstreetmap.co ? lo redirijo al correo de Harrier co ? harrier co, quieres un correo harrie...@openstreetmap.co que redirija a tu correo? , también puede ser un alias que redirija a varios... O que llegue incluso a esta lista. En todo caso creo que a la lista no es conveniente, pues la lista es publica y el correo se usa ejemplo para contraseñanas, crea pls el aliaz twitter y lo redirijes a quienes se quieran comprometer para el manejo de la cuenta, yo podria ser uno de ellos, quizas humberto y harrier, no se si alguien mas? salu2 El 31 de agosto de 2012 13:58, Fredy Rivera fredyriv...@gmail.comescribió: lo mejor seria abrirlo con una cuenta de openstreetmap.co y que lo coordine IKKS que es quien se ha encargado de esos asusntos. salu2 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:00 PM, hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.comwrote: ¿con cual email la abrimos? El 31 de agosto de 2012 11:55, Ariel Nunez ingenieroar...@gmail.comescribió: Bacana la idea, +1 2012/8/31 hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com: Buena idea, podemos usar un logo distintivo como este http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1720266/osm-col.png Viable si es, hay muchos países que ya lo hacen. El 31 de agosto de 2012 07:27, Harrier Co harrie...@hotmail.com escribió: Alguien creeria viable crear un twiter para openstreetmap colombia?? que no necesariamente se redireccione contenido de la wiki y sea mas como para gente del comun?? Harrierco ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- Por favor, no me envíe documentos con extensiones .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, .mdb, mdbx OpenOffice es libre: se puede copiar, modificar y redistribuir libremente. Gratis y totalmente legal. http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- Por favor, no me envíe documentos con extensiones .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, .mdb, mdbx OpenOffice es libre: se puede copiar, modificar y redistribuir libremente. Gratis y totalmente legal. http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
Re: [Talk-co] twitter openstreetmap colombia
Me apunto. El 31 de agosto de 2012 15:28, Fredy Rivera fredyriv...@gmail.comescribió: 2012/8/31 Igor TAmara i...@tamarapatino.org les parece twit...@openstreetmap.co ? lo redirijo al correo de Harrier co ? harrier co, quieres un correo harrie...@openstreetmap.co que redirija a tu correo? , también puede ser un alias que redirija a varios... O que llegue incluso a esta lista. En todo caso creo que a la lista no es conveniente, pues la lista es publica y el correo se usa ejemplo para contraseñanas, crea pls el aliaz twitter y lo redirijes a quienes se quieran comprometer para el manejo de la cuenta, yo podria ser uno de ellos, quizas humberto y harrier, no se si alguien mas? salu2 El 31 de agosto de 2012 13:58, Fredy Rivera fredyriv...@gmail.comescribió: lo mejor seria abrirlo con una cuenta de openstreetmap.co y que lo coordine IKKS que es quien se ha encargado de esos asusntos. salu2 On Fri, Aug 31, 2012 at 12:00 PM, hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.comwrote: ¿con cual email la abrimos? El 31 de agosto de 2012 11:55, Ariel Nunez ingenieroar...@gmail.comescribió: Bacana la idea, +1 2012/8/31 hyan...@gmail.com hyan...@gmail.com: Buena idea, podemos usar un logo distintivo como este http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1720266/osm-col.png Viable si es, hay muchos países que ya lo hacen. El 31 de agosto de 2012 07:27, Harrier Co harrie...@hotmail.com escribió: Alguien creeria viable crear un twiter para openstreetmap colombia?? que no necesariamente se redireccione contenido de la wiki y sea mas como para gente del comun?? Harrierco ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- Por favor, no me envíe documentos con extensiones .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, .mdb, mdbx OpenOffice es libre: se puede copiar, modificar y redistribuir libremente. Gratis y totalmente legal. http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co -- Por favor, no me envíe documentos con extensiones .doc, .docx, .xls, .xlsx, .ppt, .pptx, .mdb, mdbx OpenOffice es libre: se puede copiar, modificar y redistribuir libremente. Gratis y totalmente legal. http://GaleNUx.com es el sistema de información para la salud --///-- Teléfono USA: (347) 688-4473 (Google voice) skype: llamarafredyrivera ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co ___ Talk-co mailing list Talk-co@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-co
[Talk-dk] brug af lavfrekvent GSP data om OSM til beregning af køretider
oplæg fra trafikdage aalborg http://www.trafikdage.dk/papers_2012/71_OveAndersen.pdf Med venlig hilsen Emil Tin IT- og Processpecialist Cykelsekretariatet KØBENHAVNS KOMMUNE Teknik- og Miljøforvaltningen Center for Trafik Islands Brygge 37 Vær. 118 Postboks 450 2300 København S Telefon +45 3366 3433 Mobil +45 2972 3788 Email z...@tmf.kk.dkmailto://z...@tmf.kk.dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-dk] Skal København bruge 700.000 kr. på en ruteplanlægger der allerede findes?
http://www.version2.dk/artikel/skal-koebenhavn-bruge-70-kr-paa-en-rutepl anlaegger-der-allerede-findes-47284?utm_medium=email http://www.version2.dk/artikel/skal-koebenhavn-bruge-70-kr-paa-en-rutep lanlaegger-der-allerede-findes-47284?utm_medium=emailutm_source=nyhedsbrev utm_campaign=v2daglig utm_source=nyhedsbrevutm_campaign=v2daglig /sba-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] brug af lavfrekvent GSP data om OSM til beregning af køretider
oplæg fra trafikdage aalborg http://www.trafikdage.dk/papers_2012/71_OveAndersen.pdf Tak for en omgang teknisk læsestof - har hurtigt kigget det igennem og der er lidt småfejl fx defineres highway=service som service Små veje f.eks. i parker og på kirkegårde De fleste service - er da på parkeringspladser samt indkørsler ned til gårde eller ind til virksomheder. - det meste jeg har set på kirkegårde er da highway=footpath. vh Søren Johannessen ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
[Talk-dk] Mountainbikeruter
Hvordan fører vi bedst mountainbikeruter ind i OpenstreetMap, så de ikke bliver del af almindelig cykelrouting? Jeg er stødt ind i denne rute, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1772260, som er en MTB-rute, beskrevet efter alle kunstens regler, bortset fra, at den også er beskrevet som highway=cycleway (som jeg opfatter som, generelt, asfalterede stier), og derfor er i fare for at blive inkluderet i routings. Det er den da de omliggende veje/stier er noteret som tracks, og dermed typisk beskrevet som mindre attraktive for cyklister. Ifgl http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking anbefales highway=path/track. Har vi aftalt en særlig logik for om vi gør noget særligt i DK? Med venlig hilsen Michael Hammel M. +45 40 70 83 70 attachment: image001.png Cyklistforbundet Rømersgade 5 DK-1362 København K T +45 33 32 31 21 m...@cyklistforbundet.dk www.cyklistforbundet.dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Mountainbikeruter
Jeg bruger *kun* highway = cycleway når der er skiltet for cykler, uanset underlag (men har dog aldrig set andet end asfalteret på disse cykelstier). Ligesom billedet på wiki'en (linkhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway ). Hertil vil jeg også tagge underlagget (surface = *) og håber selvfølgeligt at routerene forholder sig til dette. /Jens Den 31. aug. 2012 10.37 skrev Michael Hammel m...@cyklistforbundet.dk: Hvordan fører vi bedst mountainbikeruter ind i OpenstreetMap, så de ikke bliver del af almindelig cykelrouting? Jeg er stødt ind i denne rute, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1772260, som er en MTB-rute, beskrevet efter alle kunstens regler, bortset fra, at den også er beskrevet som highway=cycleway (som jeg opfatter som, generelt, asfalterede stier), og derfor er i fare for at blive inkluderet i routings. Det er den da de omliggende veje/stier er noteret som tracks, og dermed typisk beskrevet som mindre attraktive for cyklister. Ifgl http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking anbefales highway=path/track. Har vi aftalt en særlig logik for om vi gør noget særligt i DK? Med venlig hilsen Michael Hammel M. +45 40 70 83 70 ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Skal København bruge 700.000 kr. på en ruteplanlægger der allerede findes?
31. aug. 2012 09.34 skrev Sonny Andersen s...@bukhmark.dk: http://www.version2.dk/artikel/skal-koebenhavn-bruge-70-kr-paa-en-ruteplanlaegger-der-allerede-findes-47284 Der er en eller anden lov der siger at hvis en nyhedsartikel har et spørgsmål som overskrift, så er overskriften altid forkert. Det er lidt sørgmuntert at læse kommentarerne på artiklen. Jeg er spændt på hvad der kommer ud af det. Ole ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Mountainbikeruter
31. aug. 2012 10.37 skrev Michael Hammel m...@cyklistforbundet.dk: Hvordan fører vi bedst mountainbikeruter ind i OpenstreetMap, så de ikke bliver del af almindelig cykelrouting? Jeg har ikke selv prøvet at tagge nogen endnu, men der er nogle forslag her, mountainbike er jo temmeligt stort nogle steder i udlandet: http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking Forslaget her er highway=path eller track. Ole ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Mountainbikeruter
Hej Sonny. Af egen mtb-erfaring kan jeg fortælle, at det ikke kan anbefales at køre med en hverdagscykel på de mudrede trails, med mindre man er særligt eventyrlysten. Med venlig hilsen Michael Hammel M. +45 40 70 83 70 attachment: image001.png Cyklistforbundet Rømersgade 5 DK-1362 København K T +45 33 32 31 21 m...@dcf.dk www.cyklistforbundet.dk Den 31/08/2012 kl. 11.30 skrev Sonny Andersen: Jeg mangler type=route og foot=no i definitionen. highway= cycleway er forkert pga asfalt og skiltning, men trods alt bedre end at bruge highway=path, da det er den generelle betegnelse for stier i det åbne land. Hvis man bruger highway=path, så skal man begrænse adgangen for fodgængere; vi skulle nødigt have dem ud på MTB-ruterne. Hvis MTB-ruten er i fare for at blive i inkluderet i rutningen, så må man lave en undtagelse i routeren (exclude route=mtb). - Men det kunne jo godt være, at dele af ruten var smart at bruge på cykelturen !! /sba-dk Fra: Jens Winbladh [mailto:j...@somewhere.dk] Sendt: 31. august 2012 10:54 Til: OpenStreetMap Denmark Emne: Re: [Talk-dk] Mountainbikeruter Jeg bruger kun highway = cycleway når der er skiltet for cykler, uanset underlag (men har dog aldrig set andet end asfalteret på disse cykelstier). Ligesom billedet på wiki'en (link). Hertil vil jeg også tagge underlagget (surface = *) og håber selvfølgeligt at routerene forholder sig til dette. /Jens Den 31. aug. 2012 10.37 skrev Michael Hammel m...@cyklistforbundet.dk: Hvordan fører vi bedst mountainbikeruter ind i OpenstreetMap, så de ikke bliver del af almindelig cykelrouting? Jeg er stødt ind i denne rute, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1772260, som er en MTB-rute, beskrevet efter alle kunstens regler, bortset fra, at den også er beskrevet som highway=cycleway (som jeg opfatter som, generelt, asfalterede stier), og derfor er i fare for at blive inkluderet i routings. Det er den da de omliggende veje/stier er noteret som tracks, og dermed typisk beskrevet som mindre attraktive for cyklister. Ifgl http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking anbefales highway=path/track. Har vi aftalt en særlig logik for om vi gør noget særligt i DK? Med venlig hilsen Michael Hammel M. +45 40 70 83 70 ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk Ingen virus fundet i denne meddelelse. Kontrolleret af AVG - www.avg.com Version: 2012.0.2197 / Virusdatabase: 2437/5232 - Udgivelsesdato: 29-08-2012 ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-dk] Mountainbikeruter
Sonny du har ret i at der mangler type=route, men foot=no er ikke altid sikker, da der typisk ikke er forbud imod at gå på MTB ruterne. Tænker at bicycle=designated hjælper da på det. Jeg mener at restriktioner http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Restrictions kun kan bruges hvis der er skiltning imod noget eller hvis det er åbenlyst at her ikke skal være f.eks. fodgængere (f.eks. en service vej til en landingsbane i en lufthavn (hvilken sikkert vil være skiltet for det)). F.eks. bruges her horse=no - det er ikke sikkert at det er forbudt, det ved mapperen jo. Men det sagt, så er jeg klar over at det er mega dårlig ide med heste og fodgængere på mtb spor. Jeg ville klart bruge highway=path (da det er en alm. sti i en skov, altså typisk uden nogen former for restriktioner eller fortrinsret.) /Jens Winbladh Den 31. aug. 2012 11.30 skrev Sonny Andersen s...@bukhmark.dk: Jeg mangler type=route og foot=no i definitionen. ** ** highway= cycleway er forkert pga asfalt og skiltning, men trods alt bedre end at bruge highway=path, da det er den generelle betegnelse for stier i det åbne land. Hvis man bruger highway=path, så skal man begrænse adgangen for fodgængere; vi skulle nødigt have dem ud på MTB-ruterne. ** ** Hvis MTB-ruten er i fare for at blive i inkluderet i rutningen, så må man lave en undtagelse i routeren (exclude route=mtb). - Men det kunne jo godt være, at dele af ruten var smart at bruge på cykelturen !! ** ** /sba-dk ** ** ** ** *Fra:* Jens Winbladh [mailto:j...@somewhere.dk] *Sendt:* 31. august 2012 10:54 *Til:* OpenStreetMap Denmark *Emne:* Re: [Talk-dk] Mountainbikeruter ** ** Jeg bruger *kun* highway = cycleway når der er skiltet for cykler, uanset underlag (men har dog aldrig set andet end asfalteret på disse cykelstier). Ligesom billedet på wiki'en (linkhttp://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Tag:highway%3Dcycleway ). Hertil vil jeg også tagge underlagget (surface = *) og håber selvfølgeligt at routerene forholder sig til dette. /Jens Den 31. aug. 2012 10.37 skrev Michael Hammel m...@cyklistforbundet.dk:*** * Hvordan fører vi bedst mountainbikeruter ind i OpenstreetMap, så de ikke bliver del af almindelig cykelrouting? Jeg er stødt ind i denne rute, http://www.openstreetmap.org/?relation=1772260, som er en MTB-rute, beskrevet efter alle kunstens regler, bortset fra, at den også er beskrevet som highway=cycleway (som jeg opfatter som, generelt, asfalterede stier), og derfor er i fare for at blive inkluderet i routings. Det er den da de omliggende veje/stier er noteret som tracks, og dermed typisk beskrevet som mindre attraktive for cyklister. Ifgl http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Mountain_biking anbefales highway=path/track. Har vi aftalt en særlig logik for om vi gør noget særligt i DK? Med venlig hilsen Michael Hammel M. +45 40 70 83 70 ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ** ** ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk ___ Talk-dk mailing list Talk-dk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-dk
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source
I'd agree with Rob's logic and extend it to show one of three results: postcode missing or postcode incomplete or postcode incorrect. We have loads of addresses with only the first group in place e.g B27 and I'm sure when we were using codepoint( before we knew it was dodgy in licensing terms) we chose the wrong break point in address runs. We currently have 61272 addresses in the W Mids and 44164 have postcodes. regards Brian On 30 August 2012 18:35, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: == Matt wrote == This does indeed seem like a very useful data source. Great find! However, I'm struggling to think of a nice way of visualising it to make it useful. What I've got so far in my mind is: - Take an entry from the list - Take its postcode - Search for the postcode (I've got a curated list of postcodes as part of my PostCodeFinder [1]) - Get the location of the nearest match (hopefully, we'll find at least a CV4-type segment match) - Search for roads within an x mile radius with a matching name - Associate that entry with that road == End Message == Hi Matt, I was actually thinking the other way round. That is: Pull in a list of building with addresses but no postcode in OSM (with their way IDs) and see if any match up with the Land Registry addresses. This way we can add postcode to buildings rather than just to the roads. Not sure if this is any easier/harder to do. Regards, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source
In the meantime I'm just downloading the files and filtering in spreadsheet for my patch (Sutton Coldfield) and then checking/adding postcode data for the handful of addresses it contains for each month. Though this only really works if you have the majority of your building addressing done for an area. As I'm now adding some postcode data from this source I've added the required attribution to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#United_Kingdom Incidentally, what do folks feel about adding any of the other data from the dataset?: . the full address of the property (Primary addressable object name (PAON), Secondary addressable object name (SAON), street, postcode, locality (if available), town, district, county) . the price paid for the property . the date of transfer . the property type (Detached, Semi, Terraced, Flat/Maisonette) . whether the property is new build or not . whether the property is freehold or leasehold. Cheers Andy From: Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] Sent: 31 August 2012 08:27 To: Rob Nickerson; talk-gb-westmidlands Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source I'd agree with Rob's logic and extend it to show one of three results: postcode missing or postcode incomplete or postcode incorrect. We have loads of addresses with only the first group in place e.g B27 and I'm sure when we were using codepoint( before we knew it was dodgy in licensing terms) we chose the wrong break point in address runs. We currently have 61272 addresses in the W Mids and 44164 have postcodes. regards Brian On 30 August 2012 18:35, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: == Matt wrote == This does indeed seem like a very useful data source. Great find! However, I'm struggling to think of a nice way of visualising it to make it useful. What I've got so far in my mind is: - Take an entry from the list - Take its postcode - Search for the postcode (I've got a curated list of postcodes as part of my PostCodeFinder [1]) - Get the location of the nearest match (hopefully, we'll find at least a CV4-type segment match) - Search for roads within an x mile radius with a matching name - Associate that entry with that road == End Message == Hi Matt, I was actually thinking the other way round. That is: Pull in a list of building with addresses but no postcode in OSM (with their way IDs) and see if any match up with the Land Registry addresses. This way we can add postcode to buildings rather than just to the roads. Not sure if this is any easier/harder to do. Regards, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source
Have I missed something? What datasource are you referring to here? Jonathan On 31/08/2012 09:44, Andy Robinson wrote: In the meantime I’m just downloading the files and filtering in spreadsheet for my patch (Sutton Coldfield) and then checking/adding postcode data for the handful of addresses it contains for each month. Though this only really works if you have the majority of your building addressing done for an area. As I’m now adding some postcode data from this source I’ve added the required attribution to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#United_Kingdom Incidentally, what do folks feel about adding any of the other data from the dataset?: ·the full address of the property (Primary addressable object name (PAON), Secondary addressable object name (SAON), street, postcode, locality (if available), town, district, county) ·the price paid for the property ·the date of transfer ·the property type (Detached, Semi, Terraced, Flat/Maisonette) ·whether the property is new build or not ·whether the property is freehold or leasehold. Cheers Andy *From:*Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 31 August 2012 08:27 *To:* Rob Nickerson; talk-gb-westmidlands *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source I'd agree with Rob's logic and extend it to show one of three results: postcode missing or postcode incomplete or postcode incorrect. We have loads of addresses with only the first group in place e.g B27 and I'm sure when we were using codepoint( before we knew it was dodgy in licensing terms) we chose the wrong break point in address runs. We currently have 61272 addresses in the W Mids and 44164 have postcodes. regards Brian On 30 August 2012 18:35, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: == Matt wrote == This does indeed seem like a very useful data source. Great find! However, I'm struggling to think of a nice way of visualising it to make it useful. What I've got so far in my mind is: - Take an entry from the list - Take its postcode - Search for the postcode (I've got a curated list of postcodes as part of my PostCodeFinder [1]) - Get the location of the nearest match (hopefully, we'll find at least a CV4-type segment match) - Search for roads within an x mile radius with a matching name - Associate that entry with that road == End Message == Hi Matt, I was actually thinking the other way round. That is: Pull in a list of building with addresses but no postcode in OSM (with their way IDs) and see if any match up with the Land Registry addresses. This way we can add postcode to buildings rather than just to the roads. Not sure if this is any easier/harder to do. Regards, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source
http://www.landregistry.gov.uk/public/information/public-data/price-paid-dat a -Original Message- From: Big Fat Frog [mailto:bigfatfro...@gmail.com] Sent: 31 August 2012 10:11 To: talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source Have I missed something? What datasource are you referring to here? Jonathan On 31/08/2012 09:44, Andy Robinson wrote: In the meantime I'm just downloading the files and filtering in spreadsheet for my patch (Sutton Coldfield) and then checking/adding postcode data for the handful of addresses it contains for each month. Though this only really works if you have the majority of your building addressing done for an area. As I'm now adding some postcode data from this source I've added the required attribution to http://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Contributors#United_Kingdom Incidentally, what do folks feel about adding any of the other data from the dataset?: .the full address of the property (Primary addressable object name (PAON), Secondary addressable object name (SAON), street, postcode, locality (if available), town, district, county) .the price paid for the property .the date of transfer .the property type (Detached, Semi, Terraced, Flat/Maisonette) .whether the property is new build or not .whether the property is freehold or leasehold. Cheers Andy *From:*Brian Prangle [mailto:bpran...@gmail.com] *Sent:* 31 August 2012 08:27 *To:* Rob Nickerson; talk-gb-westmidlands *Subject:* Re: [Talk-gb-westmidlands] [Talk-GB] UK Postcodes - Potential data source I'd agree with Rob's logic and extend it to show one of three results: postcode missing or postcode incomplete or postcode incorrect. We have loads of addresses with only the first group in place e.g B27 and I'm sure when we were using codepoint( before we knew it was dodgy in licensing terms) we chose the wrong break point in address runs. We currently have 61272 addresses in the W Mids and 44164 have postcodes. regards Brian On 30 August 2012 18:35, Rob Nickerson rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com mailto:rob.j.nicker...@gmail.com wrote: == Matt wrote == This does indeed seem like a very useful data source. Great find! However, I'm struggling to think of a nice way of visualising it to make it useful. What I've got so far in my mind is: - Take an entry from the list - Take its postcode - Search for the postcode (I've got a curated list of postcodes as part of my PostCodeFinder [1]) - Get the location of the nearest match (hopefully, we'll find at least a CV4-type segment match) - Search for roads within an x mile radius with a matching name - Associate that entry with that road == End Message == Hi Matt, I was actually thinking the other way round. That is: Pull in a list of building with addresses but no postcode in OSM (with their way IDs) and see if any match up with the Land Registry addresses. This way we can add postcode to buildings rather than just to the roads. Not sure if this is any easier/harder to do. Regards, Rob ___ Talk-GB mailing list talk...@openstreetmap.org mailto:talk...@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands ___ Talk-gb-westmidlands mailing list Talk-gb-westmidlands@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk-gb-westmidlands
