[OSM-talk] Aerial imagery servers unresponsive
os.openstreetmap.org, ooc.openstreetmap.org and faffy.openstreetmap.org seem to be unresponsive. os.openstreetmap.org contains tiles for Ordnance Survey's OpenData maps. ooc.openstreetmap.org contains tiles to trace out-of-copyright Ordnance Survey maps. Faffy contains Scottish OS maps. aerial.openstreetmap.org.za contains South African aerial tiles. gravitystorm.dev.openstreetmap.org which contains data from the UK Surrey Air Survey also seems to be unresponsive. Are there any plans to sort out these services? (I'm sure there are others too.) I was hoping to do some armchair mapping of areas around the UK. :) It'd be quite useful if we could have some kind of health-check script and status page to see what is and is not working: if we have JOSM users who have WMS/TMS layers setup, just having a check every couple of hours to see if the server is responsive and serving tiles might be worth doing. Yours, -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Launching OpenAddresses
The fact that the import process (and indeed the tag approval process) has become heavyweight enough that people aren’t bothering anymore should perhaps be a reason to drastically reform those processes. I know I’ve participated in both and basically given up. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ - Original message - From: Ian Dees [1]ian.d...@gmail.com To: Paul Johnson [2]ba...@ursamundi.org Cc: OSM Talk [3]talk@openstreetmap.org Subject: Re: [OSM-talk] Launching OpenAddresses Date: Tue, 25 Mar 2014 17:22:20 -0500 On Tue, Mar 25, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Paul Johnson [4]ba...@ursamundi.org wrote: Am I wrong to assume that this would be considered a potential data source on a limited scale for folks who wish to do the conflation? Sure, if someone wanted to go through the OSM import process (including confirming licenses), this would be a great spot to start. ___ talk mailing list [5]talk@openstreetmap.org [6]https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk References 1. mailto:ian.d...@gmail.com 2. mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org 3. mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org 4. mailto:ba...@ursamundi.org 5. mailto:talk@openstreetmap.org 6. https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] OpenStreetMap.org Notes to help collect OpenData
sabas88 wrote: Have you seen http://onosm.org/ ? That looks amazingly awesome. Is there any chance of adding 'wheelchair' tags to build up coverage of wheelchair accessibility. Yours, ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Wiki SSL issue
A friend of mine was just getting SSL peer reports incorrect Message Authentication Code” when he visited the OSM Wiki. Can’t reproduce it myself but just thought I’d pass it on. Anyone know if this is a known issue and/or is fixable? -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org https://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Another OSM use without attribution (unusual rendering)
It looks more like Mapbox Streets rendering. Here's a quick screenshot of Mapbox Streets at zoom level 17 for comparison: http://cl.ly/image/0H0w2Q1S3b3T -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ On 22 July 2013 at 17:05:46, Simon Hewison (si...@zymurgy.org) wrote: In today's Metro free tabloid newspaper in London, there's sponsored article (promoting Expedia), which extolls the virtues of the Shoreditch area of London. Fair enough, they want a map, so they've taken Openstreetmap data, tweaked the rendering to abbreviate street names (Old Street becomes Old St), tweaked the styling, but it looks very much like Mapnik, and an old copy of Openstreetmap data, based on the building outlines (I know, I mapped some of the buildings there). Oh, and they've not attributed Openstreetmap as the map data source. http://www.zymurgy.org/~simon/metro_osm_no_attribution.jpg vs http://www.openstreetmap.org/?lat=51.52694lon=-0.08141zoom=17layers=M Print copy is Metro newspaper, page 33, Monday 22 July 2013. -- Simon Hewison ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Latitude will be retired - Time for a mashup?
There's a community of us who are playing around with using OpenStreetMap as a venues database for checking into our own sites as part of the indie web movement. We have a page about it on the indieweb camp wiki: http://indiewebcamp.com/checkin I've got a few checkin posts on my own site that are drawn from OpenStreetMap data: http://tommorris.org/posts/8073 http://tommorris.org/posts/8074 http://tommorris.org/posts/8381 http://tommorris.org/posts/8135 I'm using Cloudmade's API per the recommendation here - http://stackoverflow.com/questions/1384397/search-within-distance-api-for-openstreetmap I'm in the middle of writing a long post about how to use MongoDB to make a super-quick venues database using OpenStreetMap data, which is something I was working on last week. I'll post it to this list when it's written and published. It'd be lovely if Overpass supported the type of query that would make this kind of venue checkin thing easy for those of us who are just individuals rather than having the resources of one of the OSM reusers. I've requested as much here - https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/Talk:Overpass_API#Wishlist:_nearest_n_objects_that_satisfy_predicate_to_point The great thing about enabling this kind of service on top of OSM is that it'd expose more of the underlying metadata of OSM to the public who could then find and hopefully fix bugs with the data. Currently, if, say, the opening_hours of a bar aren't correct, we probably won't find out. Finding ways of surfacing and exposing that data means that we'll have more eyes to find problems with it. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ On 10 July 2013 at 18:15:47, Paul Johnson (ba...@ursamundi.org) wrote: https://support.google.com/gmm/answer/3001634?p=maps_android_latituderd=1 Thinking it might be time for an OpenStreetMap based Latitude alternative now that Latitude ie going away next month. ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Using OpenStreetMap on a daily basis
I agree. Adding more functionality to OpenStreetMap.org means that people will use it as a go-to mapping site for things like routing and recommend it to others. This means they'll probably find errors/incompleteness... and they can then fix them or tag them with a note. I know plenty of people who, because of my frequent linking to openstreetmap.org, have joined and fixed a few basic things in their area: adding a pub here or there etc. Making openstreetmap.org more useful for users will hopefully mean there is an increased supply of people who want to edit the map. And if they are just seeing a map in Foursquare or another app, they don't exactly see that there's an edit button. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ On 9 July 2013 at 13:54:54, Marc Gemis (marc.ge...@gmail.com) wrote: People will stumble more easily on the OpenStreetMap site than on any of the other sites (umap, OSRM, etc..). Most press articles are about OpenStreetMap, so they search for that brand; thus they will end up on the openstreetmap.org website. The list of all services is also neatly hidden on the wiki. How many first time visitors will go from the main page to that page ? I understand that the main website is targeted towards contributors, but that is not clear from just looking at the website. People see a map and probably want to use it in a google way. They compare the features and assume that OpenStreetMap has to offer less. They will not look for an alternative service based upon OSM. just my .5 cents ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Donation drive complete?
http://donate.openstreetmap.org/server2013/ tells me that the server fund is now 102.36% complete. Two points: 1. Awesome. Hell yeah. New servers! 2. Does this mean that the fundraising banner on osm.org will now be removed? Yours, -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Mapping the Corporations
The anti-G8 protestors in London today are using OpenStreetMap on their website 'Mapping the Corporations'. http://mappingthecorporations.org/ See https://network23.org/stopg8/j11-carnival-against-capitalism/j11-map-of-the-capitalist-west-end/ and https://twitter.com/stopG8UK - news coverage at http://www.itv.com/news/london/story/2013-06-11/anti-capitalist-g8-protests/ Just thought it's quite interesting. Was surprised actually: I was more than expecting to see a Google Maps mashup, which might have rather dampened their message that Google are, in their view, Capitalist hipster scumbags attempting to monopolise all information on the internet, data-mine users' personal data and use it for profit. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Being more like Wikipedia (was: OpenStreetMap Future Look)
, namely servers and technical staff. It took a few years for the huge backlog of technical issues to be resolved, and now the Foundation are working on building new features for things like editor retention. One important difference is that mapping isn't controversial in the same way as encyclopedias are. A while back, Wikipedia's Arbitration Committee tried to cut the Gordian knot of the pro-life and pro-choice movements and what to name the articles (I believe the last consensus was something like Support for the legal provision of abortion and Opposition to the legal provision of abortion or some such verbose and unmemorable term). When this happened, there was international coverage and all sorts of people trying to make political hay about it. Scenarios where people are going to get upset over OpenStreetMaps are considerably fewer than ones where people get upset with Wikipedia. (In fact, when people do get upset about maps, they'll usually get upset with Wikipedia too. At WikiConference India, members of the nationalist BJP protested because of Wikipedia's map and description of the situation in Kashmir.*) The other difference is that OpenStreetMap has a sort of identity crisis. Is it about competing with Google Maps? Is it about producing great maps? Is it about being directly useful to consumers, or reusers, or both? Are we aiming to become the go-to map for car drivers, or is doing all the niche long tail stuff okay? How you weigh up those kinds of broad project direction questions will tell you whether modelling the future of the project after Wikipedia and Wikimedia is a sensible strategy or not. * http://zeenews.india.com/news/maharashtra/bjp-activists-detained-for-protest-against-wikiped_742489.html -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
Re: [OSM-talk] Being more like Wikipedia
On Wednesday, 9 January 2013 at 16:15, Paweł Paprota wrote: Frederik, Hundreds of man-years of developer time... and still a person with average computer literacy cannot add a table to an article! Maybe ease-of-use is not a priority for them? I could imagine a lot of arguments against having a full WYSIWYG editor in Wikipedia. Some people do make that argument (let's make it unfriendly for newbs so they don't break stuff!), but they are a very small minority. I think most people in the Wikipedia community are actually very much in support of the development of the visual editor. Their primary frustration is that they are still waiting for it. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
[OSM-talk] Operation Cowboy London this Saturday
Just a quick announcement: This Saturday, there will be an Operation Cowboy editing event in London. Details at: http://lanyrd.com/2012/cowboy-london/ https://wiki.openstreetmap.org/wiki/London_OPC2012 If you are in London, do pop in. There'll be bagels, map editing, schwag and a prize for the most obsessive mapper. -- Tom Morris http://tommorris.org/ ___ talk mailing list talk@openstreetmap.org http://lists.openstreetmap.org/listinfo/talk
